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Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show

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Viviennemary · 12/01/2025 22:34

Just seen on Sky News. Breaking News headlines. Delayed because of the wild fires didn't say if this was technical difficulties or it would be a bit crass to launch a frothy type lifestyle show with all the devastation. Anyway it might be shelved for good with any luck.

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Rhaidimiddim · 18/01/2025 13:27

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2025 07:26

The press will certainly turn their attention elsewhere but I think this will still have a long term effect. The fact that the serious publications, The Times, The Hollywood Reporter and Vanity Fair have all written long articles with lots of sources about bullying in three different contexts is a problem. The stories are all consistent as to patterns of behaviour too.

The press will move on but I think this will affect future work opportunities for them. There are parts of the article i suspect are rumour but the bullying part seems credible because it's consistent with other reports.

I agree.

What I wonder about is - who did she rile so badly? The last year has seen a slow, steady, unrelenting character assassination that is rather uncharacteristic of short-attention-span Hollywood.

And, if it were just her work ethic or behaviour, I'd expect the players just to move on and not spend much time on it thereafter.

But what's happening here - somebody with the power (could be more than one) is not letting go.

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2025 13:33

Rhaidimiddim · 18/01/2025 13:27

I agree.

What I wonder about is - who did she rile so badly? The last year has seen a slow, steady, unrelenting character assassination that is rather uncharacteristic of short-attention-span Hollywood.

And, if it were just her work ethic or behaviour, I'd expect the players just to move on and not spend much time on it thereafter.

But what's happening here - somebody with the power (could be more than one) is not letting go.

That's what I'm wondering.

But their silence is a hopeful sign. Maybe they are learning to never complain or explain. Things die down a lot faster if you don't comment.

Rhaidimiddim · 18/01/2025 13:35

itsstillmehere · 18/01/2025 13:15

This article may well be superseded by the Trump inauguration but it's not going away. These articles serve to regurgitate things from the past and people look at them and say " oh yes" . Hindsight makes things look different and not always for the better. I can't imagine it's a very happy weekend in Montecito Mansion.

Agreed.

People are still referring to The Cut interview. And this VF article!!!! Even more of a goldmine of quotes.

EdithWeston · 18/01/2025 13:40

Attention may be turning to Trump, which is likely to make this only briefly in the MSM (though it came out in time for the Sundays to catch hold of it)

But it's bound to come up again in the fortnight or so leading up to 4 March, when the lifestyle show's pre-launch publicity will re-start.

Munnygirl · 18/01/2025 13:47

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 12:34

And you sont know they are running out. But what we a do know is that they are still able to afford to live where they are so that tells you they have money.

Money is no doubt invested its what rich people do, money making money. Then again that's open to all of us we can invest our money to make money too.

But as I said to afford their lifestyle they have to keep replenishing their coffers and you don’t know how much they have left

JADS · 18/01/2025 13:49

Rhaidimiddim · 18/01/2025 13:35

Agreed.

People are still referring to The Cut interview. And this VF article!!!! Even more of a goldmine of quotes.

Given that this couple hang onto to every tiny slight from avocados to lip gloss, they shouldn't be surprised when people don't instantly forget The Cut, HR and VF.

(I still think Alison Davis' interview in The Cut was a work of genius)

Saveusernames · 18/01/2025 13:53

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2025 13:33

That's what I'm wondering.

But their silence is a hopeful sign. Maybe they are learning to never complain or explain. Things die down a lot faster if you don't comment.

That would be a first - they have come out defensively each and every time.

I do wonder how PH can stand by though? He hasnt been directly implicated. in any of this and as his shtick is that he is compassionate / MH advocate / lik his mother -- how can he stand by and support her.

The theme that I have noted in all of the workplace bullying reports is that PH is charming / has no side to him etc - that sticks out as quite deliberate to me - so I dont think he has bullied his staff although he has other major flaws - smearing and lying about his family etc.

Saveusernames · 18/01/2025 13:54

Rhaidimiddim · 18/01/2025 13:35

Agreed.

People are still referring to The Cut interview. And this VF article!!!! Even more of a goldmine of quotes.

All of these reports are cumulative and compounding....

Mylovelygreendress · 18/01/2025 13:55

And they thought the British media were bad !

Spectre8 · 18/01/2025 13:59

Munnygirl · 18/01/2025 13:47

But as I said to afford their lifestyle they have to keep replenishing their coffers and you don’t know how much they have left

And you don't know if they have invested money thay is replenishing their coffers but people who have that much money usually have it invested.

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2025 14:02

Saveusernames · 18/01/2025 13:53

That would be a first - they have come out defensively each and every time.

I do wonder how PH can stand by though? He hasnt been directly implicated. in any of this and as his shtick is that he is compassionate / MH advocate / lik his mother -- how can he stand by and support her.

The theme that I have noted in all of the workplace bullying reports is that PH is charming / has no side to him etc - that sticks out as quite deliberate to me - so I dont think he has bullied his staff although he has other major flaws - smearing and lying about his family etc.

I know they keep saying how charming he is but I see him more as a weak enabler. If Meghan really does treat staff in this way he should be steping up and protecting them, not being charming.

JADS · 18/01/2025 14:09

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2025 14:02

I know they keep saying how charming he is but I see him more as a weak enabler. If Meghan really does treat staff in this way he should be steping up and protecting them, not being charming.

Agreed. I think Harry comes out of this very badly despite the charming narrative.

Was it not him that said silence is the same as complicity or something similar. It was a stick he tried to beat his family with.

The other part about being charming is that abusive people often turn on the charm and stab you the back - just look at the Relationships board here. Harry appears very slimey despite what the narrative is trying to peddle.

Saveusernames · 18/01/2025 14:10

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2025 14:02

I know they keep saying how charming he is but I see him more as a weak enabler. If Meghan really does treat staff in this way he should be steping up and protecting them, not being charming.

Yes he is a weak enabler.....probs because he's worried that he's next in the firing line as he has seen and heard how vicious she is to others. So he's likley in self preservation mode.

But if he is so keen to point the finger at others and call them out for whatever he sees as perceived slights - then his cognitive dissonance must be in overdrive to ignore what not only what he sees and hears but what is amplified by the victims of his wife's consistently atrocious behaviour across the global media.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 18/01/2025 14:39

I imagine Harry has never needed to behave badly around staff because he's always had automatic superior status, and he's probably good natured enough or not bothered enough to throw his weight around. Whereas Meghan has little talent and imposter syndrome, imo, so having a go at staff for her numerous failings or just when she needs to feel on top is probably par for the course (eg her behaviour during the Reitmans photo shoot towards the crew members). Conversely, Harry has undoubtedly witnessed his social peers and certain members of his family behave badly around staff or others they don't believe are within their social/economic class and/or who are there to serve them and take whatever behaviour is meted out to them; and wouldn't say anything about it when he sees it because he finds that behaviour normal, even if he wouldn't engage in himself.

smilesy · 18/01/2025 14:45

Conversely, Harry has undoubtedly witnessed his social peers and certain members of his family behave badly around staff

I doubt this to be the case. Most of his social peers would know that you should treat those who work for you well, otherwise they will vote with their feet. The late Queen admonished Meghan ( via Harry) for speaking to staff inappropriately. I know someone who worked at the Palace and who said that Andrew could indeed be an arse, but he was in the minority, and he wasn’t constantly berating staff. Meghan has never been in charge of staff before and clearly doesn’t know how to behave in these circumstances. But it is a mystery why Harry would think her behaviour is ok

Serenster · 18/01/2025 14:54

Conversely, Harry has undoubtedly witnessed his social peers and certain members of his family behave badly around staff or others they don't believe are within their social/economic class and/or who are there to serve them and take whatever behaviour is meted out to them; and wouldn't say anything about it when he sees it because he finds that behaviour normal, even if he wouldn't engage in himself.

Harry is the one who wrote in Spare about intentionally assaulting his bodyguards though.

BasiliskStare · 18/01/2025 15:00

Didn't the Late Queen also admonish Harry for his treatment of Angela Kelly?

Wanttoadoptadog · 18/01/2025 15:02

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 18/01/2025 11:12

So, but for this article being buried by Trump's inauguration, do you think its contents need to be investigated? Do you think allegations made against 2 very rich, powerful, well connected - at the highest levels - anti bullying and anti free speech campaigners merits a further investigation/conversation?

Just re posting this again, would be very interested to hear @Spectre8 response to this.

Wanttoadoptadog · 18/01/2025 15:06

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 18/01/2025 10:29

Apart from there are now 3 separate reports of bullying and they can’t all be blamed on the racist RF or the racist ‘British media’. Vanity fair is a not a rag and has been complimentary about the Sussexes before so this is a bit of a sea change.

I bet she wishes the press were only writing about avocados now, such simple times! Seeing as the British press apparently drove her to suicide over such articles how does she cope being totally annihilated by her own establishment in her own country?

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 18/01/2025 15:17

Serenster · 18/01/2025 14:54

Conversely, Harry has undoubtedly witnessed his social peers and certain members of his family behave badly around staff or others they don't believe are within their social/economic class and/or who are there to serve them and take whatever behaviour is meted out to them; and wouldn't say anything about it when he sees it because he finds that behaviour normal, even if he wouldn't engage in himself.

Harry is the one who wrote in Spare about intentionally assaulting his bodyguards though.

Was he drunk? I know a few "gentle" men whose real selves come out under the sauce. They will verbally and physically attack anyone they think is trying to stop them doing something they want to do, little provocation required. That's different to sober and unprovoked assertions of "superiority" via bullying, belittling, blaming etc, which is what MM is accused of. Te only physical thing I can recall her being accused of is throwing a cup of tea.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 18/01/2025 15:24

smilesy · 18/01/2025 14:45

Conversely, Harry has undoubtedly witnessed his social peers and certain members of his family behave badly around staff

I doubt this to be the case. Most of his social peers would know that you should treat those who work for you well, otherwise they will vote with their feet. The late Queen admonished Meghan ( via Harry) for speaking to staff inappropriately. I know someone who worked at the Palace and who said that Andrew could indeed be an arse, but he was in the minority, and he wasn’t constantly berating staff. Meghan has never been in charge of staff before and clearly doesn’t know how to behave in these circumstances. But it is a mystery why Harry would think her behaviour is ok

Well there's staff and then there's staff. I've been around these types enough times to see how they treat eg lowly wait staff. They wouldn't treat loftier members of staff the same way because they know they are not 10 a penny and readily replaceable. MM undoubtedly had never had any experience managing anyone, plus delusions that she could, as a royal, hire and fire at will and simply snap her fingers if she needed a top not aide employed. Harry thought she was better than anyone else who had ever set foot in KP bar his mother. He probably believed her anger was justified because she was (to him) always right.

CaraCameleon · 18/01/2025 15:36

smilesy · 18/01/2025 14:45

Conversely, Harry has undoubtedly witnessed his social peers and certain members of his family behave badly around staff

I doubt this to be the case. Most of his social peers would know that you should treat those who work for you well, otherwise they will vote with their feet. The late Queen admonished Meghan ( via Harry) for speaking to staff inappropriately. I know someone who worked at the Palace and who said that Andrew could indeed be an arse, but he was in the minority, and he wasn’t constantly berating staff. Meghan has never been in charge of staff before and clearly doesn’t know how to behave in these circumstances. But it is a mystery why Harry would think her behaviour is ok

Andrew is well known for treating staff like shit.

Viviennemary · 18/01/2025 15:51

Saveusernames · 18/01/2025 14:10

Yes he is a weak enabler.....probs because he's worried that he's next in the firing line as he has seen and heard how vicious she is to others. So he's likley in self preservation mode.

But if he is so keen to point the finger at others and call them out for whatever he sees as perceived slights - then his cognitive dissonance must be in overdrive to ignore what not only what he sees and hears but what is amplified by the victims of his wife's consistently atrocious behaviour across the global media.

He won't want to split up. Too many folk will say I told you so.

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Saveusernames · 18/01/2025 16:15

Viviennemary · 18/01/2025 15:51

He won't want to split up. Too many folk will say I told you so.

Thats true - in all classic narc/enabler dynamics they never leave - unless/until they become the victim....and even then he would need a ladder to climb down.

CaraCameleon · 18/01/2025 16:18

Viviennemary · 18/01/2025 15:51

He won't want to split up. Too many folk will say I told you so.

I agree . She would have to leave him.

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