Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show

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Just seen on Sky News. Breaking News headlines. Delayed because of the wild fires didn't say if this was technical difficulties or it would be a bit crass to launch a frothy type lifestyle show with all the devastation. Anyway it might be shelved for good with any luck.

All you need is to see is the promo to get the flavour of what the program is going to be about. That has quite been enough for most people

But Megan was

He "thought" the way he did because he is massively entitled and has a pathological jealousy of his brother.

As others have pointed out, he is not the heir and he was the grandson, not the son, of the reigning monarch. Even the Queen's own son, Edward, was married in St. George's. Harry was never going to get a wedding in the Abbey.

If any of us here on the interwebs can work this out, why couldn't Harry?

Jacquette · Today 05:10

There were reports that the Queen was shocked at her wearing white.
I don’t think so. I’m sick of the media generated rubbish. We are no longer living in Victorian times and Brides often wear white the second time around now.

No, we're not - for most of the population! But if you choose to marry into the British monarchy, surely you grasp the fact that it's all about tradition and protocol? Plus, since the Queen was the head of the C of E, she would have had (and expected her family to follow) fairly strict ideas about what was correct behaviour (especially on a global 'stage'). Meghan 'got' the £32 m wedding aspect of the being a royal, but not the constraints of the job (and it is a job).

If you join the local posh golf club you can't expect to get away with flouting all the rules, however silly they may seem to a newcomer. Best to tread carefully and respectfully before trying to change things.

I don't think Meghan knows anything about culture and tradition - of the US or of anywhere else (and has no interest in it). She didn't understand how important it was in the context of marrying Harry. I think she's really silly and shallow. If she'd played her cards right, looked, listened and learned, and THEN maybe suggested some new approaches, how different things could have turned out. But that was never going to happen - she's too ignorant and arrogant - and brash and vulgar.

St George's Chapel in Windsor is a lovely venue and has been the default Royal wedding venue since Edward and Sophie married there in 1999. It's less extravagant/opulent to marry there than Westminster Abbey which ends up closing London down for days on end. As I understand it, Harry's wedding cost just as much as William's for fewer people so their guests would have got an elevated experience. Their griping just looks petty.

Back on topic, the trailer is supposed to inspire people to view the show. I can go to You Tube/FB reels for recipes that look more palatable. I'm not interested in arranging beige flowers during daffodil season. I won't be watching.

Still waiting @Jacquette for your response......

Charles was widowed by the time he married Camilla, so technically only one of them divorced, same as H and MM. The Queen chose not to attend their wedding, only the blessing.

But if you choose to marry into the British monarchy, surely you grasp the fact that it's all about tradition and protocol?
Equally, though, Harry was marrying into the Markle family. Just as William was marrying into the Middletons and Charles was marrying into the Spencers (less of a culture clash with that one and Diana was true blue aristocracy, probably posher than Charles). Why should the Queen’s opinion of a white dress for a divorcee (if she in fact gave a shit about the dress colour) hold sway over the bride’s preferences? The monarchy aren’t special, magical divine beings.

If someone started a MN thread saying her in-laws were paying for her wedding in their country of origin and wanted things all their way – oh, actually, they’d be ripped apart on AIBU by all the “I got married on a budget of £5, served no food and everyone said it was the best wedding they’d ever been to” anti-party fun sponges, never mind.

Your argument makes no sense. Meghan was marrying into an institution that has hundreds of years worth of protocol and tradition and was being funded by that institution.
If they wanted to 'do their own thing' they absolutely could have done by paying for it themselves.

Wasn't the fact that Charles and Diana's wedding was at St Paul's more to do with the numbers of people attending (the heir to the throne's wedding) rather than a status thing? So I'm not sure that Westminster Abbey was a "step down" for anyone. After all, the Queen herself married there (albeit during the post-war austerity years).

Firstly I think it's disingenuous to pretend that marrying into the British RF is just like marrying into any other family. It's clearly not (I wouldn't do it!!!) and I think if you take the nice bits (privilege and hugely expensive wedding etc) then you have to sign on the dotted line for the constraints.

The Queen wasn't just Meghan's grandmother-in-law. She was HoS and head of the C of E. These things have implications in the context we're talking about. I know Meghan like to put H's family down by referring to them as 'Your grandmother, your father, Kate' etc, and this all shows that she either didn't get it or she was deliberately trying some kind of power-play (I think a bit of both).

You're right - we don't know for sure what the Queen thought of Meghan's dress. I'm sure she may have frowned if she did indeed disapprove but she clearly didn't make a decree to stop her wearing it. And the wedding wasn't a private affair - it would be seen and picked apart across the world, so if the Q did in fact have opinions, she was probably entitled to them.

And as for marrying into the Markle family...ahem...well, Meghan made damn sure that Harry didn't do that!! 😂There's only Doria as far as we know.

Meghan was incredibly lucky to get the welcome and the wedding she had and she just behaved like a rude guest and chucked it all away - adding horrible insults as she did so. Silly cow!

Nope. The royal family’s wants only take precedence if you believe some people are more important by dint of birth. A wedding is a ceremony to begin a marriage of equals; women no longer promise to obey – Meghan didn’t. The archbishop proclaimed them husband and wife, equals – not man and wife, implying a subservient relationship.

By marrying Harry, Meghan had to accept the royal family’s funding because there would be no way for her to afford what was needed. The BBC gave them an engagement interview, demonstrating the public interest. The wedding had 27.7 million peak viewing in the UK, 29 million in the US. It was covered worldwide on multiple channels. That spectacle all came from the groom’s side, and the groom’s side had the wealth to fund it. And before anyone says “well, they could have said no and had a private wedding”, look at the outcry when she refused to do the hospital steps postpartum posing with Archie – she’s still fighting off allegations of surrogacy, baby kidnap, moon bumps and god knows what else simply because she maintained her privacy for 48 hours.

Regardless of anything else she’s done, “wearing white as a divorcee” and “wearing white as a divorcee when RoYaL pRoToCoL” is just made-up snooty bollocks.

You might think it's ' snooty bollocks" @pelargoniums and there is a lot of the monarchy that is 'bollocks' but Meghan wasn't just marrying Harry she was marrying into the Monarchy .
Like I said if they thought it was 'snooty bollocks' they could have paid for their own wedding and done whatever the fuck they liked.

And he was marrying into a mixed-race American family.

I think Meghan absolutely had to adhere to protocols during engagements as a working royal; the Queen was her boss and the Firm was paying her “salary” (in the form of grace and favour accommodation and covering the bills). But her wedding? Was that work, or personal? One of the many problems with the monarchy is that it blurs the lines between the two.

She wore white though, didn't she? So what's the big deal - the queen was presumably entitled to have an opinion but evidently didn't insist on Meghan wearing some other colour.

(Probably because ultimately it doesn't really matter when you're that far down the line of succession. These protocols are more important when they involve the heir to the throne and next Supreme Governor of the CoE, maybe why she didn't attend Charles and Camilla's wedding. Also that was quite a few years earlier.)

Charles and Diana divorced a year before she died. I'm not sure he could be classified as a widower.

In your opinion only

Incidentally, this is why the bile aimed at Camilla being queen when the "rightful" queen should have been Diana is also rubbish. She and Charles divorced, so even if she had lived and Charles had never re-married, Diana would not now be queen.

But her wedding? Was that work, or personal? One of the many problems with the monarchy is that it blurs the lines between the two.

Surely Meghan would have understood that a massive televised wedding was at least partly work, representing the family and the country across the world. Obviously the queen has a stake in that. But as people keep saying, if Meghan had wanted a private wedding that was just for them, she could easily have had one. (I thought that had been suggested initially but they refused and went for the big expensive day instead.) It's actually quite odd for the 6th in line to have such a big event, none of the other grandchildren did. Except William of course, but he is obviously more important in the hierarchy and much more significant in the life of the nation.

Yes, that’s how the internet works – no one’s had to specify “IMO” or “IMHO” since 1802.

H&M didn't do the post partum photos on the hospital steps, which they were perfectly entitled not to do, and frankly no one cares about that. They did do post partum photos in Windsor Castle a couple of days after the birth - which is pretty much the same thing.

The issues surrounding the birth is that they stupidly (their MO frankly) tried to play games with the Press. Releasing a statement saying she had gone into labour, when she had already delivered and was back home. And then quickly releasing the announcement of Archie's birth.

No one cared about the hospital steps photos, the issues all stem from the idiocy around the labour/birth Press releases.

If H&M wanted a smaller, more private wedding then they absolutely could have had this. They didn't need to accept his family's money. But they did and they got the ceremony they planned.
If Meghan didn't want the big TV wedding, with a Royal tiara, within the grounds of a Royal castle she absolutely could have had it. I find it baffling that people think this wasn't exactly what she hoped for (smaller if anything IMO).

As for Harry marrying into the Markle Family - yes he did. But he's never once met his Father-in-law, or any of her half siblings. Her Mothera side of the family weren't invited to the wedding. So again, they got the ceremony they wanted, and the marriage they wanted. (I will always find it utterly bizarre that you could marry someone and never once meet one of their parents. Thomas Markle made some stupid decisions, but he didn't do anything H&M haven't done themselves).

Edit to add: her half siblings appear to be appalling frankly, so I can see why he never met them, but to never once meet her father? Weird.

I do wonder what Meghan has told Harry about her father as it strikes me as strange that he has never met his FIL who - in Meghan’s own words over the years - was a doting, generous parent.
I know Harry isn’t the sharpest tool in the box but surely he has asked questions ? When everything exploded before the wedding ( and I honestly never thought those photos were anything other than foolish) the late Queen urged H and M to go over and speak to TM but she refused .
The cynic in me thinks that her father no longer fitted into her Royal life.

Nobody forced them to have a "Royal" wedding, I'm pretty sure the armed police weren't there to force them into it! If they had wanted to elope to Gretna Green or get married on a beach in the Seychelles, they could have done. But they wanted it to be a royal occasion and therefore had to accept the protocols that go with that.

adding horrible insults as she did so. Silly cow!
Behold the irony…

By marrying Harry, Meghan had to accept the royal family’s funding because there would be no way for her to afford what was needed.

But wasn't the wedding just a 'spectacle'? Didn't they really get married 3 days previously in the gardens of Kensington Palace?

And yes, contrary to what you say they definitely could have got married privately in California or anywhere else if they had so wished. Who cares what randoms on the internet thinks? Noone bases major life decisions around that, do they? Harry could also have turned down titles and roles as working royals for himself and his wife. He chose not to do so, so yes, she was marrying into the royal family far more than he was marrying into her family. She even had Charles walk her down the aisle!

The truth is they wanted the big royal wedding, with someone else picking up the bill. As discussed above, Harry wanted Westminster Abbey, not the relatively humble St. Geroge's. There problem was that the wedding wasn't grand enough. It's a bit strange to pretend otherwise, when all the evidence is there to see.