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With Love, Meghan - criticisms and genuine concern for her mental health

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 05/01/2025 16:34

I am probably going to be flogged for posting this and chased down the dark laneways of Mumsnet as bystanders yell “Shame Shame Shame”.

I weighed in yesterday about a thread on Meghan and her new Netflix show. I made some criticisms about the trailer and certain cliche’s in the way it was produced. Hypocritical of me to be posting this but I feel guilty and have reflected. I am actually looking forward to watching it on Netflix and my criticisms were pretty minor and not exclusive to her show - it’s a common issue I have.

Meghan has struggled with mental health because of criticism. The reaction to ‘With Love… Meghan’ has been fairly brutal.

I think it would be really good if we refrained from saying anything negative about the series or Meghan Markle. That’s not the point of this thread.

I want to know if you think the criticisms have gone too far. The Princess of Wales is not on the scene and we are protective of her rightly so. That leaves Meghan as media fodder though.

Do you think it’s time Meghan and Harry were given a break ? I do. I think we’ve been far too harsh and the criticisms have gotten out of hand.

I think we also forget the cultural relevance. If we went into the homes or Gwyneth, Julia Roberts etc and I would probably feel the divide too. American culture doesn’t apologise for wealth and hollywoood is highly competitive.

Having a confident demeanour, throwing your head back Julia Roberts style when you laugh and unapologetically selling $$$ vagina products like Gwyneth Paltrow is how it over there. People talk loudly and confidently and are polished and rehearsed especially in the
Competitive world of Hollywood…

Are we all being too hard ?

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SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/01/2025 21:13

pelargoniums · 05/01/2025 21:06

You appear to be a little confused. Netflix is a streaming service where you watch shows with no adverts: Netflix makes its income from subscribers. It makes no income from adverts.

Sometimes, Netflix itself advertises its shows elsewhere to draw more subscribers – when I play Candy Crush, I’m shown adverts for Harlen Coben’s Missing You. This costs Netflix money. They can’t be “banking” on Meg and Harry for advertising because that would mean spending more money and they’ve already spent $100m.

They haven’t done a lot of paid advertising of Meghan’s show – I’ve seen it on the official Netflix Instagram and other social media, but that doesn’t cost them money. The whole point of the Meghan and Harry contract is to bring in subscribers; if the show flops, if subscription numbers go down or subscribers downvote Meghan’s show, that’s not a win for Netflix.

Thanks for the ABC on that.

You're still wrong.

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2025 21:13

I don't blame them for leaving the country.

Bit of a shame then Harold still expects provably unecessary blue light cavalcades, hoovers up a £26m bid to stage his vanity project in a bankrupt UK city and is happy to see the UK taxpayer absorb legal costs relating to his vexatious litigations.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 21:16

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/01/2025 21:05

Netflix aren't "keeping on endorsing them" - they have a contract!!

You've seen this contract have you? Does that help process it better.

RockingLock · 05/01/2025 21:22

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 20:14

The Archbish married them before the actual marriage.

Archie didn't get a title or security due to his skin colour.

I think there are 17 provable lies in that interview. And then one big bullshit one about Harry's father and sister in law being racists and "concerned" abut how dar Archie's skin would be which absolutely no one with any sense believes.

Has the archbishop said that didn’t happen? Plenty of people have a non legal ceremony before / after the real thing.

Dont know the deets around that because I don’t really care but again, were you present at those conversations before and after his birth?

again - you don’t believe it. Doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

Ireallymissmetime · 05/01/2025 21:25

MaryGreenhill · 05/01/2025 16:44

No, they are both fair game . They are reaping what they have sown.

I totally agree.

They made things personal about other people in their interviews and therefore opened the door to people personally criticising them

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 21:28

Ireallymissmetime · 05/01/2025 21:25

I totally agree.

They made things personal about other people in their interviews and therefore opened the door to people personally criticising them

They didn't start it it was the British press appealing to the British public and writing shit about them. You opened the door to them criticising you not the other way around.

AndThereSheGoes · 05/01/2025 21:29

@Tittat50 what planet are you on? Andrew is absolutely finished with the public and his family. I've seen no positive publicity in years.

The reason MM and H continue to be discussed / slated is because they keep realising books, interviews, programmes. When Andrew pokes his head up he gets equal animosity. He's not been charged in law so it's based on what the press/ social media have given us and how the public feel about over privileged men and 17 year olds. Similarly we make up our minds about MM being a certain type of person based on what we are shown.

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2025 21:29

Has the archbishop said that didn’t happen?

He did.

Nordione1 · 05/01/2025 21:29

RockingLock · 05/01/2025 21:22

Has the archbishop said that didn’t happen? Plenty of people have a non legal ceremony before / after the real thing.

Dont know the deets around that because I don’t really care but again, were you present at those conversations before and after his birth?

again - you don’t believe it. Doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

I saw the Oprah interview? Meghan made various statements which were proven to be false. As in, not true. I know it's not nice to find this out though. Must be a bit of a shock.

Yes the Archbishop did say it didn't happen. He embarassingly had to make a statement after the Oprah interview to say that Meghan had lied about getting married the day before as otherwise he would have committed a criminal offence. Very unfortunate of Meghan to have done that to him but luckily he was able to confirm she lied so he was off the hook. I don't know if you believe the word of Meghan over the Archbishop of Canterbury though?

RockingLock · 05/01/2025 21:30

@CathyorClaire interesting. I shall Google.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 21:30

AndThereSheGoes · 05/01/2025 21:29

@Tittat50 what planet are you on? Andrew is absolutely finished with the public and his family. I've seen no positive publicity in years.

The reason MM and H continue to be discussed / slated is because they keep realising books, interviews, programmes. When Andrew pokes his head up he gets equal animosity. He's not been charged in law so it's based on what the press/ social media have given us and how the public feel about over privileged men and 17 year olds. Similarly we make up our minds about MM being a certain type of person based on what we are shown.

You believe what you read in the press?

RockingLock · 05/01/2025 21:31

I’m not sure at any point I said she wasn’t lying. I said were you there, is it fact, blah blah blah. I don’t follow the ins and outs of this bullshit, and I still don’t understand the vitriol given none of it affects you.

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2025 21:31

RockingLock · 05/01/2025 21:30

@CathyorClaire interesting. I shall Google.

Please do 🙂

RockingLock · 05/01/2025 21:34

Ok I have googled.

it clearly states their LEGAL wedding took place on the Saturday. However H&M class their marriage as their private ceremony 3 days previously. Much like wiccans and those that marry abroad etc where it’s not legal.

so, not a lie really is it? Reminds me of greys anatomy, when derek and Meredith got married on a post it. They kept those vows, called themselves married, but didn’t have a legal union for ages after.

next.

With Love, Meghan - criticisms and genuine concern for her mental health
Rhaidimiddim · 05/01/2025 21:35

itsstillmehere · 05/01/2025 20:22

I've never seen so many new names, so many people who are obviously not British and have no ideas of lands, titles etc today. I think this has happened

A sugar rush.
And I can't believe we're having another go-round on the "what lies" and whether or not the BRF are racist ( shevsez yes, he sez no) questions.

x2boys · 05/01/2025 21:36

oakleaffy · 05/01/2025 19:56

I met Diana , Princess of Wales to speak to via a work event- and saw her locally, another time, and my word, in person she was absolutely stunning.

Beautiful sapphire eyes, and she seemed to exude light.

Diana was very beautiful- But would people be as interested in her now, had she lived?

I like to think so, Diana would have been Queen of course.

How could she have been they were divorced.

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 21:36

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 05/01/2025 20:39

That's actually quite funny - that you're bothered about racism enough to report if someone says gammon.
Hope you are as bothered about actual racism too.
It's not a "derogatory term for a white person with a red face" - it's more of an attitude.

You’re wrong. And it’s never ok to minimise any kind of racism. You know this right?!

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 21:37

Rhaidimiddim · 05/01/2025 21:35

A sugar rush.
And I can't believe we're having another go-round on the "what lies" and whether or not the BRF are racist ( shevsez yes, he sez no) questions.

It’s like the days before Catherine got ill. Some people have short memories…..

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/01/2025 21:37

x2boys · 05/01/2025 21:36

How could she have been they were divorced.

Exceptions could be made. She was the Queen of Hearts.

Princessfluffy · 05/01/2025 21:37

OP you should perhaps prioritise your own MH above that of MM.

MM is doing great in life, she is good looking, has huge wealth, fame, position, status, an amazing home, a prince for a husband and two children. If she needs MH support she has access to more and better qualified professional support than you could dream of.

Criticism of her cooking show was fully expected by her when she chose to put it out there, maybe respect her choices.

I think having concern for the MH of the many people who have been bullied by MM would perhaps be more warranted.

Choccyscofffy · 05/01/2025 21:38

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2025 21:29

Has the archbishop said that didn’t happen?

He did.

He says he did meet them a few times before the wedding. He may have done a private ceremony with private vows but not the official wedding.

I can understand if they wanted private vows that aren’t televised for the world.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/01/2025 21:39

Tittat50 · 05/01/2025 21:05

Ok I don't know how to fully assess public opinion and how that changed but the explanations for the dislike seem incredibly disproportionate.

I remain really confused as to why the level of hate I see so often online is stronger towards MM and Harry than Prince Andrew ( I don't sweat and I never met this woman in my life).😬

And Charles (Saville was his best friend writing his speeches. The financial scandals, his position as Duchy of Cornwall and the revenue associated with that at the expense of others ).

I really would love a psychologist/ expert in all this guff to explain it. It makes no sense and I'm open to hearing it genuinely.

Edited

I don't think Savile was ever Charles's best friend!!!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/01/2025 21:39

Choccyscofffy · 05/01/2025 21:38

He says he did meet them a few times before the wedding. He may have done a private ceremony with private vows but not the official wedding.

I can understand if they wanted private vows that aren’t televised for the world.

It would have been illegal!!

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 21:41

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 20:56

Please don't bring Kate into it I never saw so much photo shopping in my life from one royal. The only time I have seen the real Kate was on Remembrance day and saw how she really looked from all the treatment she had. Chemo takes its toll on the body and it showed in her face. I was shocked and really she didn't have to do the photo or the speech when she was talking nothing moved in the background. Kate has every right to her privacy but that's not what she wanted she wanted to share parts of her journey and that's her right.

Please don’t comment on Kate’s looks. It’s not ok. Do better.

x2boys · 05/01/2025 21:42

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/01/2025 21:37

Exceptions could be made. She was the Queen of Hearts.

🤣🤣🤣

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