Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

Well it’s a doubled edged sword isn’t it. Yes they get more press attention but with that comes more scrutiny.

For example. Cesta Collective handbags. We now discover that after an investigation, that they pay their workers poorly. That investigation wouldn’t have happened but for Meghans involvement with them.

So no, it’s not always a win for businesses and charities to work with them. That’s becoming more apparent over time.

Are we allowed to do that on here?

That was a coordinated effort by WME represented "stars", including Stephen Colbert whom you mention, who also interviewed Harry on his Spare junket. WME is the same agency that represents Meghan. It was no coincidence that a US talkshow host was suddenly discussing a long debunked affair rumour relating to a foreign dignitary, or that his subsequent "apology" was mealy mouthed bordering on the malicious. If I ever feel sorry for MM and PH, I just need to remember the above as well as all the other planted press articles, the odious Spare, the risible Netflix and the collaboration with Scobie. They are the authors of their own misfortune.

Not sure actually. I found it though, so thanks for mentioning it.

I think you'll find the state of New York has plenty of beaches (including in the city), and mountains and ski resorts aplenty. And all the Manhattan restaurants do great desserts.

Yes, publicity and public exposure can bring scrutiny- but if you want publicity, it’s a very cheap and easy way for a small business or charity to get it.

For coverage in the UK press, there’s few celebrities who will get you more attention. And that is a business model.

But it's not always positive 😂🤷‍♀️

While NY and surrounding areas are lovely, Meghan grew up in California and that’s where her mother lives. Being a drive not a flight from her mum makes sense.

Oh dear is it other people out to get him as well? 🙄

The PCH is one of the most scenic coastlines though. NYC might have beaches but compared to the californian coastline and it beaches they are not on par.

Him not being mentally well has been apparent for a long time.

In your opinion. I referred to New York State beaches also, which are, ime of both states, much more beautiful than anything I saw in LA/Southern California. Northern California and into the Pacific North West coast is a different level of beauty altogether.

Hark at you replying to a "sad", "pathetic" and "odd" thread...

Carmel-by-the-sea looks heavenly, would love to go there

I agree, North East beaches are beautiful

Yes but now he appears absolutely bonkers .

Not one iota!

They both do, these days.
Fat-finger edit.

It's not my opinion is regularly in lists of the most scenic trips you can do in America. I rarely see nyc beaches listed as scenic places to visit in the USA. So no it's not just my opinion.

Agreed

"And all the Manhattan restaurants do great desserts"

lol

They will have far more to tell but no one cares now, plus given the amount of provable lies, no one would believe them anyway.

Ah, now while a Waaagh 2 has been discounted by Henry himself (and I don't think publishers would go for it under anything less than heavily severe constraints afte the finger burning PRH got) I think a Rachel memoir could prove to have very long legs.

I'm not discounting a tell-all. You read it here first 🤓

I don't feel sorry for their immense wealth and privilege and all the advantages that they are able to offer their children .Especially so when other children are being brought up in war zones elsewhere and children in the uk experiencing poverty and homelessness .
I suppose part of me will always feel a little sorry for Harry as the image we have of him growing up was walking behind his mother's coffin .

I do think certain parts of the press were always out to get them and continue to be overly critical of anything they do now .i do suspect if they had stayed within the royal family and in the Uk that this may have died down as it did with others who entered the RF , but who knows as there was also a racial element for M .

I also for think for Harry he has gone through a tough time and we cannot completely appreciate how the lens of the press / public watching this has magnified this considerably . He however has been able to access the very best of therapy and was not required to go and do a demanding job to pay the rent / mortgage when his mental health wasn't great .
So whilst I do think people were initially sympathetic to them they have now exhausted this goodwill .
I also appreciate that it must have been difficult for H growing up and not being in the immediate line of succession and feeling W was favoured by all . But again people all over the world have had difficult sibling / family experiences and have to get past this .
I do think in some ways as M was supremely confident and driven she was never going to accept being in 2nd place to Catherine . Rather than helping H in the competition with W&C even in their own minds , she fuelled it further .

I think by basing their monetary worth on selling secrets they have rightly alienated the Hollywood royalty e. g Oprah etc , she couldn't trust them to be discrete about her . The RF don't trust them either have gone no contact , so no fresh gossip / insights there .

They would have had access to their very best PR / managers etc at least at the start . They had a great chance of making a success of their lifestyles but from all their high staff turnover they or at least one does not want to listen to others who are more experienced and to follow their advice . I think their downfall has been their egos .

I also think that if they had lived a relatively rich but not Californian celebrity lifestyle eg had stayed in Canada they may have been more successful . There would have always have been the issue with security and certainly the Canadian govt didn't want to foot the bill for this . They could have perhaps lived somewhere else overseas where they and their children could have had a lovely and very comfortable lifestyle but not a super rich Californian one .

I think Harry has also been "quoted / misquoted " as saying he can't touch the 20 million? Inheritance from his Mum as that is for his kids . That would be equivalent to most of us saying I can't touch my average salary , please contribute via go fund me so I can leave this money to my kids .

That's my tuppence worth and finally I do think people have also had enough of being lectured to by celebrities etc who don't follow their own advice re climate change etc .

I feel a bit sorry for him, living in the dry dusty hills of Montecito, instead of the green forests and fields of England. Still angry, still feeling hard done by, bitter and now with nothing left to sell. She got what she wanted, she thought she'd bring down a monarchy. She lacks such self-awareness, I'd like to see will she ever wakeup. They both have denied their children any family. What are the odds that both families are in the wrong and just Harry and Meghan are right.

I rarely see nyc beaches listed as scenic places to visit in the USA.

The beaches and towns of the Hamptons on Long island are absolutely stunning, and definitely a place to visit on any list.. The road from San Fran to LA is also quite spectacular, however it is often shrouded in fog and last time we drove it, there were multiple diversions due to landslides. LA downtown is an absolute shithole, NYC downtown is not. There is no debate about that.

Meghan is a Cali native, so I can see why she would want to be back living in her hometown, despite all its faults.

I think London and NYC would be much more attractive cities to live in than LA.

I feel sorry for them too but I think they are happy, leading a good life and are above it. They know what the media is like and it's relentless. Comments about 'Spare' are preposterous, usually written or said by people who haven't read it. I read it twice and found it extremely interesting.