Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

I wouldn’t rule them out - if they could bear to wait out a long strategic plan they could do an amazing come back arc.

People love a good comeback story and it could be timed to come to fruition for about the time of William’s reign which would open up the possibility of being back in the royal adjacent good books for the big family events.

But it would take 10-12 years of very strategic, tightly controlled behaviour and a lot of humility and mea culpa’ing and I’m not sure they’ve got that in them.

I feel sorry for the kids, they are growing up with very little extended family (is Meghan's mother still on the scene?). They will have a celebrity status but with no positive type of fame to back it up, and their parents aren't well liked.

Fairly sure the last thing they’d want is stuffy christmases with Charles and his cronies.

I feel sorry for the ones that didn’t escape. I bet Harry and Megan have a lovely life.

When they first left and started selling their (oftentimes completely batshit) grievances on Oprah all i could think was 'what will they do when they have run out of stories?'. PH never had the thought before he met MM that he could monetise being royal like that. MM had mere seconds on the inside and now is in the situation where nothing she says about anything is believed and people who had royal stardust in their eyes when they looked at her are all backing away fast. In a highpowered, high celebrity world loyalty is precious. They have shown they will sell their grannies (literally) for a buck.

So, no I dont feel sorry for them. They have orchestrated their own downfall. Through greed. Through stupidity. Through hubris. I'm not sure either of them are functioning humans, never mind functioning adults.

I think a multigenerational house party would be brilliant!

OK they've no longer got Dubonnet-soaked Granny there, which must still leave a hole. But they've got rid of the pervy uncle, and have instead gained the unknown quantities of the steps and their descendants. Lots of little ones, and the possibility of Tindall's who I expect really know how to party.

I very much doubt it's stuffy - and I bet there's a massive prize for "best disguised hangover at Church Parade"

Hhmm Sandringham or Montecito, I'm sure they'll manage.

No and I never will.

For someone who thinks they are awful people etc…. You seems to be really involved in what they are doing
Shouldnt you just be happy they’ve left or are you looking for ways ‘karma’ is taking revenge?

Honestly I don't think they care they obviously think and feel they can do no wrong even when they are told they are doing something wrong they still firmly believe they are right they will not be swayed they are the most firm "in their conviction" people I've witnessed in a long time

I wonder why people assume they’re not happy? Being part of the RF here was making them miserable. I admire them for getting out of it.

I know someone that lives in Santa Barbara, close to Montecito. He’s a very wealthy expat and mixes with the monied set and the same polo club. He’s met H&M at a few things and says they are very popular and seem very happy. I don’t think there is the same spiteful culture over there of wanting them to fail.

Feel sorry for the privileged? Couldn't care less. People, feel sorry for the underdog, the sick, infirmed and the vulnerable. We've all become obsessed by what doesn't really don't matter.

Spiteful culture? Your prejudice is showing.

People aren't necessarily willing them to fail.

But are commenting on events as they unfold.

Bit of chuntering on about the Royal family isn't an obsession.

And should we, instead of feeling sorry that none of their ventures has gone beyond flash-in-the-pan, be happy about their lack of success so far?

I think it's perfectly possible to be sorry for different people in different ways. And a mild interest in the Royal family doesn't prevent people from also paying attention to other subjects and themes, whether serious or frivolous

Hahaha well you would say that wouldn't you. I find it odd you even think like this to start a thread like this 🫣

I don't feel sorry for them in the least - they have beautiful kids, live in one of the sunniest places in the world and have millions of £££ in the bank.

I feel more sorry for all the people who invest their free time in thinking about them obsessively and willing their downfall - that's utterly sad.

I can't feel sorry for such privileged people. Absolutely not.

I don’t think they have the self awareness to be regretful at how things have turned out.

I also suspect that their name carries enough cache in certain circles for them to be invited to the swanky parties, holidays to be offered to them, etc etc. I’m sure that keeps them happy.

Absolutely not! They've brought all this on themselves. Let them get on with it. I have zero interest in the royal family as it is. Much less a dodgy older prince who seems to get involved with any shady character that crosses his path. They are all an embarrassment and bring nothing to our country now. Over privileged and outdated.
As others have also said, I'll save my sympathy for those who truly need it.

Then why repeatly comment on an odd thread where you find the OP sad and pathetic?

The NYpost, so not a British tabloid, even sees how badly everything is turning out and is commenting :

https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/opinion/harry-amp-meghan-cant-read-the-room-as-their-polo-dud-proves/

@username299 They seem to lead a very nice life, have two gorgeous children and are in love.

Fair point, but do you think they really truly are mutually 'in love' in the renaissance way, truthfully?

This is speculation on my part, but I've always thought it was a love borne somewhat out of expediency.

As in, to rudely corrupt Jane Austen: It is a truth universally acknowledged that a nearly 40 something year old actress with a modestly successful career must be in want of a husband of significant means. Especially a royal one.

Naturally she would be 'in love' with such an advantageous match, in exactly the same way a young woman finds herself head over heels with an uber-wealthy music, business, or film legend star many decades older than herself.

What better offer, proposing so many golden opportunities and a heritage title was on the table? Realistically? You must be in love. I would be.

When I look at them dispassionately, I see Meghan as quite above Harry in intelligence and I do not see them as matched at all. And this might explain the curious mystery of Meghan being so incredibly astute as to network her way up from relative obscurity to being in the same vicinity as Harry, having a very successful blog, appearing very likeable, well reported on by her film set fellows, to suddenly post engagement appearing to make so many obviously avoidable blunders. It's like it's not the same woman, and that I believe, is because of Harry's influence. Harry who appeared to not have even known many points of Royal Protocol (apparently he wasn't aware he had to ask the Queen permission to marry?) and not having prepared his bride sufficiently for Royal Life.

They have children. They have a public persona. I am not sure how much the flame of love is burning. But just logically, that much drama squeezed into so few years, wouldn't normally make for a smooth marriage

Personally, if I feel sorry for anyone it's the children, they have titles, but have no experience of what they mean and do not see their wider cousins either in Britain or those in related Royal families in Europe and the narrative they receive from their parents regarding their family is unlikely to be favourable or positive. Britain is part of their heritage and the reason for their titles, they ought to be coming here often, but they cannot without negative press directed at their parents.

I also feel a bit sorry for Meghan whose husband has possibly set her up for failure from the beginning, by overselling royal life and the possibilities it offered perhaps.

But I caveat all this by saying no one knows the entire truth of what goes between a couple or in a family.

I agree. If harry hadn’t been royal……..

It's sad that Harry does a lot of stuff in Diana's name yet fails to see that Diana probably wouldn't have wanted him in the situation he's in now. I doubt she'd have wanted her two sons to fall out so publicly over nothing. I doubt she'd have wanted her grandchildren to not know each other. I doubt she'd have wanted Harry to sell secrets on his once beloved sister-in-law.

Sadly, there is absolutely no way back for Harry now. Will and Kate will rightly never trust him again. I hope they can find it in their hearts to forgive him though, for the sake of the kids.

Whatever Diana thought about Charles and whatever choices she made after the divorce, she always respected the institution of the monarchy and I imagine would have been completely shocked to see one of her sons willingly leaving that institution.
I really can't see how William and Catherine could forgive Harry for so publicly trashing the royal family and them personally.

Sorry for them? Absolutely not.