Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

You’re bang on OP. I don’t have sympathy with them though. They seemed to think they were bigger than the historic royal family - and instead they were a cheap 5 minute distraction and gossip , that hasn’t impacted the royal family at all. In fact I think people like the royal family more after it as they feel sorry for them as people (ans they can’t defend themselves) and are protective of them. I don’t know why I feel this but I wonder if Harry is questioning his choices. Meghan was a beautiful exciting empowered woman, but now I think she comes across as manipulative and her true colours are showing and the honey moon period is over. I don’t quite know what they should do next but they did say themselves they want a quiet life so maybe that’s what they need to do!

To be fair he genuinely seems to like living there but it’s just another cage in a wealthy enclave really. They don’t get involved with local events or people. They live in isolation with no contact with family apart from Doria. It’s a very odd existence if you ask me. M lives for any event she can get to which will involve being photographed. Publicity is the air she breathes.

I have no doubt that MM has a tell-all book in mind, Though it will be more of a tell-what? book, IMO. What can she say that has not been already said.. or half-said...or implied... or backtracked on?

I think if they do divorce it will be carnage though and any tell-all book will essentially rip PH apart and ultimately destroy him. She's smarter than him (although possibly not as smart as she makes out) and she's already proven herself to be vindictive. I think PH is a total entitled tone-deaf dim muppet but I think he's in something far deeper than he realises.

If they are privately happy or not is one thing. Hopefully they are for their own sake. Unfortunately, many people think they are a joke. They don’t command much respect. As we came to see in the last US elections. Most people are not interested in what rich and famous tells you to do. H & M are perceived for what they are. Just part of a bunch of clueless idiots that think they can influence the population.

I don't feel sorry for any member of the RF except possibly the children. And my sympathy for them evaporated when they hit 21.

Publicity is the air she breathes.

Publicity to what end tho?

Shes not growing her profile to get acting parts or drive cinsumer business anywhere?

What are their revenue streams?

She’s a narcissist. She’s looking in the pool at her own reflection. I don’t think she knows who she is otherwise. Anyone else would be questioning their whole strategy but she just has to be in front of a camera posing and preening , whatever it takes and whoever she needs to use to get there. I also think there’s an element of trying to put two fingers up to the RF. If she can get herself into the media in any way, it deflects attention from them onto her.

I think I feel pity, I have not seen two people squander so much, so quickly. They beleived their own hype. And in doing so they have displayed loudly their shortcomings to the world, they are vindicative, talentless, entitled, grabby and lack intelligence .

im sure they have good qualities, just it is hard to see what they are.

i dont think they can turn it round now. And it is clear they do not have the A list lifestyle that Megan wished, becoming effectively social pariahs in that set. And trying to be faux working royal again, is simply embarassing for all concerned, even us the onlooker.

there is still public interest clearly. But it is waning, and it isn’t interest in their projects, charities or work, but interest in the weird shit they pull, what they will do next, how they will screw up . It isn’t positive interest in any way. People are just waiting for the next embarassment.

so I think I feel pity, like I want to turn away from it and not look.

Well said, @Queenofthejabs

Spare was a massive mistake; so crass and undignified. No one will ever trust them again; they will be kept at arm's length because no one of quality wants to be gossip fodder for their next book.

Incredibly poor judgment.

No I don't feel sorry for them as they appear to be happy and getting on with life. Money in the bank, nice home and most importantly two kids and each other, it's more than a lot of people have

Well MM has fallen out with all of her family, except her mother. PH has fallen out with all of his although Eugenie may still be speaking to them.

There is a pattern here and form that only their POV matters. MM lacks the integrity to do what she keeps trying to do. PH may have a little more provided he remains focused and keeps his wife out of his work.

MM and PH were absolutely nailed by the spitting image team.

I feel pity for their children, not at all for them. Those poor children have two very damaged and paranoid parents who aren’t going to be able to model healthy relationships in any way. They are being denied the opportunity to know their father’s side of the family and understand their heritage. They don’t know any of Meghans side apart from Doria and possibly Meghans half niece. I can’t imagine their friends are invited round to play or that they go to play with friends. What sort of life is that for a child?

I do feel sorry for them. when i see the awful stuff that is said about them. the horrid comments about how they will get divorced, how bad being away from the royal family is damaging their kids(yep because hanging around a family that keeps company with PA would be so good.)
its strange because the same people will bring up the short period of time that W&K had a bad time and say how dreadful it was. yet will happily do the same to H&M and then say they deserve it.

@Manypaws I agree most people would be happy with their life* but I doubt they *will. PH spent over 30 years in an unique environment of privilege. There were downsides such as public duties but I figure the positives outweigh the negatives.

He is now "ordinary" and for LA standards not that wealthy so his life is a downgrade. I don't think they set out to live in USA to be ordinary, middle class citizens which is what they are now.

That must be incredibly difficult to adjust to, less so for Meghan who didn't have such a privileged life.

I genuinely don't wish them any further bad publicity but they seem incapable of making good decisions. They have had access to the best PR teams so it must self sabotage.

What a post 😲 How do you know what sort of parents they are? To say they are going to damage their children is just too much. You don't know what their day to day life is like, the friends they have at nursery and school and saying you can't imagine they have friends to play with... absolute tosh, you don't know. I imagine they have a lovely life. I had to post this to counter your unfounded negativity.

I feel sorry for William and Charles. We all knew Harry had limited commercial appeal and has been successful only in selling gossip about his family. Once that dried up we can all predict it'll be tumbleweed for him, sadly.

I bet his uk family will be torn between being appalled at his spectacular betrayal but also probably have pity for the massive hole he has dug himself.

As he becomes more irrelevant it will affect his mental health and his UK family will be the ones to pick up the pieces.

But they are clearly not content with just that.

That’s the life they could have had privately- but they have chosen to be in the limelight. That’s where they are failing. The faux tours, business investments etc

I wonder if he has moments at 3am when he thinks wtaf have I done?

He must do. We've all had times when our families may have driven us mad and we want to get it off our chests etc but you don't, you smile move on and accept none of us are perfect. He did it all so horribly publicly, aired his grubby laundry for Oprah & Co to pick over.

When it's just him, his wife and his mil for Xmas day you'd surely think he'd have a pang of regret and pine for a traditional Christmas with extended family.

I think he genuinely thinks he has done nothing wrong. He has said before he is waiting for an apology.

Well if anyone were to say that Catherine and William deserved her cancer, there would be something fundamentally wrong with them!! Anything Harry and Meghan have experienced has been entirely self-inflicted.

Andrew is only one member of the family. Harry and Meghan are depriving them of their uncle, aunt, cousins, cousins' children, grandfather, etc etc. They know nothing of their heritage. Don't you think they're going to have questions as they grow up and wonder why?

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting i think the children will have to deal with it the same way that children from toxic families deal with it.
And usually it means that, having had no relationship with those people, they won’t miss them.

Plus they do have connexion with some family members (like Harry’s cousins) anyway and with Diana’s family too. They haven’t cut everyone out. Just those they don’t want contact with. As is their choice/right. Like in any family.

TBF almost every one of the wider RF is pretty appalling in their individual ways.

Much of it self-inflicted too if we take into consideration Grandad's bull-headed insistence on consorting with multiple sex offenders alongside his taste for cash in carriers, Uncle Lazy skimming both his tenants and the nation and some rather venal cousins.

I know the argument is the Harolds have sold their souls for moolah and are therefore hideous traitors but I don't think morally there's a lot to choose between any of them in the wider picture of self interest.

I agree

@imfae
“I suppose part of me will always feel a little sorry for Harry as the image we have of him growing up was walking behind his mother's coffin “

William - only 2 years older - also walked behind his mother’s coffin yet seems to have avoided the bitterness and paranoia that Harry displays .

Sad though it was , Diana died 27 years ago .