Anyone starting to feel sorry for them?

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No matter how preeningly narcissistic the couple may seem, surely even they must now have realised what the source of their woes is? The fact is: people were only interested in hearing what Harry and Meghan had to say when they were dishing the dirt on the royal family.Hence, in January last year, the record-breakingly vast sales of Harrys memoir Spare. with all its eye-popping claims about his brother, father and stepmother. But every time he, and Meghan, start talking about any other topic – be it sport, jam or social justice – the world turns off. No one cares. Now that the Sussexes have finished flogging all the family secrets, they’ve got nothing that anyone wants.

There is part of me that does feelsorry for them too. I mean 2024 has been a disaster, off the back of 2023 which was another disaster. It’s not going to get any better. Reap what you sow, so we knew it was coming their way but it’s all a bit sad and pathetic now. The faux tours, cards from ‘the office of’, as time goes on, the more pathetic that will look because they have lost all connection to the Royals

This must be their year of reckoning. He won’t win his cases, they will lose Netflix, the brand will face further set backs, they realise that their kids will never have a royal Christmas at Sandringham or summer at Balmoral, ever. In fact they are unlikely to ever meet the King again.

Its all came off the rails. We all knew it would happen. Many could even see the disaster impending from the engagement announcement. But it’s still hard to watch and that’s what makes me feel a bit sorry for them.

Prepared to be flamed! 😬

Harry definitely still has a lot of issues. I feel terrible for him for everything he's gone through, losing his mum in such a public way but Harry is now 40 years old. A lot of people go through a lot growing up. At the end of the day, you need to stop being a victim of circumstance and find a way to move forward.

I think a lot of people and the media still see him as the 12 year old boy who walked behind his mother's coffin. That's why he's struggling now, I think. He can't really take criticism. I remember in the 2000s, he would act out and people would make excuses and remind everyone how he lost his mother at 12. He has never really had to take responsibility for anything. Then, in the 2010s, he was the golden boy of the Royal Family. The press loved him, despite his claims.

While I agree that some of the hate is a lot (and even then, most of it is directed towards Meghan, not him), most of the criticism he got is pretty much the same as other members of the family:

-Preaching about the environment while taking private jets: Philip, Charles and William have all been criticised for it. Celebrities like the Kardashians, DiCaprio, Taylor Swift get criticised all the time as well

-The cost of the renovations of their home: W&K got criticised too
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Harry should just accept that he's a celebrity now and crazy rumours get written about them every day

I see MM has been out ‘volunteering’ again.

Clap back.....playing catch-up.

They were handed a gold plattered global platform and poor decision after poor decision has led them where they are. If they'd have been realistic and appreciated that people only know who Harry is because of the family he was born into then they'd have seen how telling lies about his family was not going to give them longevity. If they'd have moved to Cali and stepped back but not burnt bridges and just been themselves they'd have probably had enough success to build a life for themselves and been welcomed back to pivotal Royal occasions- best of both worlds. I'm sure plenty for example would have read a memoir if Harry had written one, sure some read Spare just because they hate the royals and wanted the dirt; but plenty would be interested in his insight into the RF and his experiences. Same with Meghan, she was much more interesting when she wrote the Tig and her constant reinventions are tedious- she should just be herself.

Be interesting to know what actually happened (not that we ever will), I don't feel sorry for them though.

It’s actually quite astounding how much of a mess they have made of things. Just a total car crash. Meghan didn’t understand she was playing with fire. Harry was complacent and just thought he’d be taken care of whatever he did.

He said that he never thought his security would be taken away nor did he believe his father would stop financing him .
But then he was clearly shocked when the late Queen said no to half in/ half out.

@Nono22972

"Harry should just accept that he's a celebrity now and crazy rumours get written about them every day"

You are right. This is how it goes.

Meghan makes herself a target, as does Harry.
If Meghan had simply gone back to acting, fair enough, but its the pursuit of celebrity and the constant contradictory behaviour, and the 'my mummy' stories....urgh.
I think the South Park episode nailed the whole situation.

And what they have caused their children to lose as well.

I don't feel sorry for them yet. They have zero self awareness and are blissfully ignorant of their petulance and betrayal of their families. They r like spoilt teens who think they r right about everything.

However, if they do ever wake up and realise how awful they have been to their families and how narcissistic they've been, and everything Harry in particular has lost (not least his brother), and it impacts them to the point they do begin to feel v alone, regretful and guilty and fall into a depression, I will feel sorry for them. I'm not sure it'll happen though.

I don't think I will feel sorry for them because all of it is entirely self-inflicted, and they have been cruel to so many while they were at it.

Any time I'd feel any sympathy towards them, I'd be thinking of what Harry said about his school matron and betraying the privacy of the woman he lost his virginity to. I'd think about Meghan marching in front of the veterans at Invictus in shorts and slides and grinning like a Cheshire cat. I would think about the father she callously dumped for making money out of her private life while she and Harry made money out of the RF's private life.

And that's only for starters. Nope, no sympathy!

Amen!

Bet they're both feeling a bit chipper today, however!
Now that Murdoch has admitted The Sun's crimes and awarded Harry damages.

As a rule, whenever there is a negative story about the Royal Family bubbling under, there will be a thread about Harry and Meghan starting up...

I thought the apology only covered what's already in the Leveson findings? Illegal intrusion by PIs (not Sun staff), and nothing showing that seniors (editors let alone owners) were involved.

Yes WinnieTheW0rm, that;s right. NGN only apologised for misconduct that had already been established. They did not admit the specific allegations Harry was looking to prove.

Oh for goodness sake, they have acknowledged nothing new whatsoever, nothing that wasn't already in the public domain following Leveson and the criminal cases that followed the enquiry - ie that a few contractor (not employee) private investigators had been used by their journalists and they carried out illegal hacking. They have very specifically in that statement admitted NO illegality on the part of NGN. None of the top brass that Harry was after have admitted anything. The only new part, and somewhat odd since she's dead and not a litigant in the proceedings, is the apology to Diana. But again, invasion of her privacy is hardly some sort of huge relegation, is it? And she invaded her own privacy plenty.

Nobody, but nobody, thinks Harry and the others should not be compensated for proven cases of phone hacking What they do object to is his posturing about "dragon slaying", claiming he is not settling like the other litigants because he's going to trial on principle to stand up for all the little people who had no choice but to settle, and wasting the time of the court (paid for by the taxpayer). All he has done is run up a massive, unnecessary legal bill and done what everyone else has done and said he would not do - which is to settle. So he is no hero, he's just a very ordinary litigant like the millions of others every year who settle.

Harry has had a disastrous few weeks so I’m not too surprised he has cut and run. This case revolves around historic U.K. media dealings. His focus needs to be on the shit show that they are currently making of things in the US and the media reports over there.

At least taking the settlement means he should now have more than enough money to take legal action against the ‘distressing’ claims that his wife is a bully.😉

Oops, this ⬆️ was meant for NGN thread

Given his not inconsiderable expenses on this case, it may well be the settlement did little more than cover costs. Remember we don’t have punitive damages in the UK so he was never going to be awarded the sort of sums you hear about in America. The courts still consider £1m a large amount for ‘emotional’ damages.

You would have to think that he must be sick to death of being in the press every day? To be scrutinised all the time? To have so much negative publicity ?

@ToomanyMilesAway the publicity he gets with these media cases is all part of his impressive dragon-slaying sacrifice that he's making on behalf of the little people and their democracy. It seems obvious to me that this is what Harry tells himself.

I mention democracy because there was a quote on the NGN thread of Harry talking about the role a free and fair press is supposed to play in holding the gov to account and how, if they're busy following the likes of Harry about, they're not doing their job of holding the gov to account and therefore democracies will collapse, or something. He really has been telling himself that he is the best person ever for pursuing this.

This is spot on.
Now they are aging laughingstocks, openly being mocked and called grifters.

@HunterdeButts

You sound very vexed by it. Let it go. It's his choice to pursue this case

I'm mostly vexed about the ignorance of posters like you. You clearly don't understand how the court system works, how it is paid for and how it is completely heaving with idiots like Harry clogging up the diary and judges' time (Fancourt would have had do at least a week's worth of pre-trial reading and prep), time that tax-payers pay for, on cases that could have been settled months if not years ago. All for the sake of a statement giving him nothing new, and certainly giving nothing to the other litigants who settled (which was his professed reason for not settling).

There are huge delays in the court system causing real suffering to thousands of people. This case has tied up the courts for weeks.