Awful card

[Jostuki]

Happy holiday season. 🙄

No, it’s a Christmas card.

No, it’s a card to say happy holiday season, because that is what it says.

But it's not. It's a card aimed at people who celebrate the different holidays at this time of year.

No it’s not.

If you celebrate Christmas, which Harry and Meghan do, then it’s a Christmas card.

They don’t celebrate a nondescript Holiday season.

If you wish to include others, then you can also write, and a happy Hanukkah and Kwanzaa on your CHRISTMAS CARD

Huh? Why would someone send a Christmas card to their Jewish friends, for example? That's just rude and possibly even offensive. H&M wanted a card they can send to anyone. Hence the generic "Wishing You a Very Happy Holiday Season". The rest of us that don't produce our own card just buy specific cards for specific people.

Cards aren't about what you celebrate. It's for the recipient. Like how we send birthday cards to people on their birthday, not ours.

I live in America where a more generic seasonal card is very common. No one is forced to do this and some people do specific Christmas cards or Hanukkah. Lots of atheists send Christmas cards too of course.

However a business or organization if not a religious one needs to send out something more generic which will cover all their recipients.

You are being very rigid about this.

Funnily enough I happened to see a little ice skating video this evening of the Stingray puppets ice skating and I would swear I saw Archie from that photo in it. Harry too 😳

No it isn't.

I live in America where a more generic seasonal card is very common. No one is forced to do this and some people do specific Christmas cards or Hanukkah. Lots of atheists send Christmas cards too of course

It’s the same in Canada. I left work today, won’t be back until January. I said “Happy Holidays” to everyone before I left. It’s perfectly normal.

Nope.

You don't assume the recipients celebrate any specific holiday of the season.

"Happy Holidays" is what you say in all workplaces unless you work for a Christian organisation, church or school, and if your workplace (apart from Christian organisations, churches or schools) sends out a card, it's normally a "Happy Holidays" card.

Sending out a Christmas card with "happy Hannukah/ Kwanzaa/Solstice/ whatever" on it would be seen as a very odd gesture and not at all appropriate. People's religious affiliation or level of commitment is simply not something anyone should assume in the US, and it is not done. Very few people would mention their religion or religious services or religious beliefs to anyone outside of their immediate family and maybe not even that.

Public schools have just started "Winter Break" around here. It's not called Christmas Break.

Yes it is - very rude, very much conveying the message "This is a Christian country and you live here on sufferance".

You send out a generic Happy Holidays card unless you're sending cards to people you know from attending church with them or working with them in a church school.

Plus, people don't send cards as such either - they send out a family photo with a little blurb about the ages of their children and what sports or interests they have, any salient news like a trip abroad or a new grandchild or puppy or a house move or a retirement or new job.

No, it's a Holiday Season card.

This is "The Holiday Season" in America.

Well schools in the UK have just completed Christmas term, and are off for their Christmas holidays. They will have had their Christmas nativities in primary school, their Christmas carol concerts (all schools), their Christmas fairs, their Christmas jumper days, their Christmas dinner and the staff just had their Christmas night out.

The general population has had their work Christmas dos, shared Christmas greetings with their colleagues, gone Christmas shopping, been to Christmas fairs, Christmas markets, bought their Christmas Day outfit, ordered their Christmas dinner etc etc etc.

Most people in the UK are sharing cards with people they know, and are not going to give a Christmas card to someone likely to be offended by it.

May British traditions continue and thrive and not be swallowed up by American ones, like Halloween has been misappropriated!

The thread topic is Harry and Meghan's "Holiday" card.

One of the couple is American.

The family lives in America.

The card is being sent to Americans.

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting

Indeed. What people in the UK do at or call this time of year is irrelevant. H&M aren't a British family. They don't live in Britain. Their children don't go to schools in Britain. They aren't raising their children to be British. They live in America. Their children are being raised in America. They will likely follow American traditions with their American friends and family, not force British traditions on them for no reason.

Harry is British. The other half of the couple! His father is the supreme governor of the church of England, A church that Meghan joined in order to marry Harry, remember. She is a member of the church of England, and Archie was baptised into that church. Lord only knows about Lili.

The children are half British, even if that side of their heritage appears to have been totally cast aside.

I can't imagine the card is only being sent to Americans.

A hell of a lot of Americans also celebrate Christmas!

Well maybe given the fact that their heritage is as members of the Royal Family, those traditions should also be observed!

Their grandfather is the King of England, the supreme governor of the church of England!

They're in line to the bloody throne!!

King of the United Kingdom.

And what? Why does that mean they should follow British traditions while living in America? They left the royal family. They gave up their HRH. They don't want that life for their family.

Also King of the UK, agreed!

Don't you think their children should know something of their British heritage? Especially as it's so high profile?

I think it's dreadful that their parents are excluding them from the life of the Royal Family. Those kids are going to need a fuckton of therapy!!!

They are literally depriving their children from so many loving family relationships that they should be part of - it's actually disgusting!

You really think being part of the royal family would be better for them? You don't think William and Harry need a fuck ton of therapy? Anyone with any sense will know that Harry's children being raised in private will likely fare much better than William's children who are constantly being put in front of the cameras, having to perform for the masses, and facing scrutiny and criticism as they get older.

What loving family relationships lol. You mean the grandfather they'd barely see and the aunt and uncle who hates their mother? Pass on that.

They do want the titles though and think they’re entitled to free security for life, paid for from the purse of the tax payer.