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Jostuki · 16/12/2024 18:57

Happy holiday season. 🙄

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Baital · 19/12/2024 20:57

chollysawcutt · 19/12/2024 09:05

I wonder if they have actually seen the card, or is someone at their 'Office of' trolling them?

It just seems so odd that Harry, who despises the paparazzi, who blames them (and the RF, obvs) for his mum's death, should choose images that are very 'papped' (grainy/far away/voyeuristic) and reminiscent of his mum's constant media prescence.

Ha, this one will run and run, am sure!

Off topic, but are you Jill?!

WinterCrow · 19/12/2024 21:04

SirChenjins · 19/12/2024 20:23

What holidays are nearly over?

Fuck knows.

We just got our naff old tree and the naff old crib down from the loft to make ready for yule/winter solstice/the twelve days of christmas/hogmanay.

Aspargar · 19/12/2024 21:04

Onlyonekenobe · 19/12/2024 16:58

You don't need to feel threatened by "Happy Holidays". Nobody is taking anything away from you, including your traditions, and nobody is trying to force you to accept "Happy Holidays" - just ignore it if you find it offensive. If a random person on the street shouted out "happy diwali!" on the relevant date when the fireworks are going off and UK citizen/British revelers are pouring out of temples etc, wouldn't you just shrug and think "weird!" and move on with your life? Or would you find it offensive?

Happy Holidays clearly doesn't apply to you. It's irrelevant to your world and how you live your life. Fine. Ignore it. But to assert that because the UK is predominantly Christian it shouldn't be used because it's offensive to your particular brand of Christianity is wrong (and un-Christian, actually). There are many, many ways to be British and yours is no better or more superior than any other.

Your post doesn’t make sense.

This is Christmas. Therefore you wish a happy or merry Christmas. It’s also the time for Hanukkah and kwanzaa but people celebrating those traditions do not greet each other with ‘happy holidays’

They greet each other with ‘Happy Hanukkah’ and ‘Happy Kwanzaa’. Just like every other religious festival that is celebrated, you use the name of the festival. You do not disguise and police the name of the festival in order to not offend others or include others. Others who practice a different religion or aren’t religious at all, aren’t offended by the name of the festival celebrated by others.

Hindus should not start using ‘happy lights holiday’ to be more inclusive around the time of Diwali. They shouldn’t feel the need to make non Hindus feel included in their traditions either.

It’s deeply offensive to celebrate the Christmas festival if you cannot bring yourself to use its name. I’m not Christian but I’ve been raised in a culturally Christian country and I celebrate Christmas. If you send a Christmas card, then you are acknowledging that you are participating in the Christmas festival by virtue of sending a Christmas card. So use the traditional salutations. Don’t pretend you’re being inclusive. How can you be inclusive participating in a culturally Christian tradition that has no reverence for other religions/cultures. It makes no sense!

So Happy Christmas 🎄

chollysawcutt · 19/12/2024 21:04

Baital · 19/12/2024 20:57

Off topic, but are you Jill?!

Ha, possibly... or am I April, May or June?!

Baital · 19/12/2024 21:06

chollysawcutt · 19/12/2024 21:04

Ha, possibly... or am I April, May or June?!

Did you win the scavenger hunt because everyone left you behind? Or go on the trek?

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:11

If people refused to use the name of significant festivals in other religions you can imagine the outcry. Yet Christians are supposed to just suck it up!

Early Christian mission to Britain absorbed pagan traditions into the Christmas narrative to make the new religion more palatable to the natives:

https://chefin.com/blog/these-6-christmas-traditions-are-actually-pagan-customs/?srsltid=AfmBOoqVVBNuPfxMjoJPI3K2LiWzxwXkersdZrMI1qx-JeUjBSc6El45

If wishing 'Happy Holiday' means I don't have to dance naked round an oak tree in December, I'm on board 😎

chollysawcutt · 19/12/2024 21:14

Baital · 19/12/2024 21:06

Did you win the scavenger hunt because everyone left you behind? Or go on the trek?

Ha, all of those things, plus I had a gymkhana named for me. I hope you are not Susan Pyke.

MayaKovskaya · 19/12/2024 21:14

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:11

If people refused to use the name of significant festivals in other religions you can imagine the outcry. Yet Christians are supposed to just suck it up!

Early Christian mission to Britain absorbed pagan traditions into the Christmas narrative to make the new religion more palatable to the natives:

https://chefin.com/blog/these-6-christmas-traditions-are-actually-pagan-customs/?srsltid=AfmBOoqVVBNuPfxMjoJPI3K2LiWzxwXkersdZrMI1qx-JeUjBSc6El45

If wishing 'Happy Holiday' means I don't have to dance naked round an oak tree in December, I'm on board 😎

Don't come round to mine then! Ok, come over, I'll let you keep your socks on.

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:16

MayaKovskaya · 19/12/2024 21:14

Don't come round to mine then! Ok, come over, I'll let you keep your socks on.

Kecks and top covers too?

Deal 😎

Baital · 19/12/2024 21:17

chollysawcutt · 19/12/2024 21:14

Ha, all of those things, plus I had a gymkhana named for me. I hope you are not Susan Pyke.

Maybe I'm Camilla... 😮

MayaKovskaya · 19/12/2024 21:18

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:16

Kecks and top covers too?

Deal 😎

It's Yule, my friend. Pagan rites only. Also, no sprouts.

Baital · 19/12/2024 21:19

chollysawcutt · 19/12/2024 21:14

Ha, all of those things, plus I had a gymkhana named for me. I hope you are not Susan Pyke.

Or even Mercy Dulbottle 😉

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:20

MayaKovskaya · 19/12/2024 21:18

It's Yule, my friend. Pagan rites only. Also, no sprouts.

No sprouts? 😡

Hard pass 😛

MayaKovskaya · 19/12/2024 21:26

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:20

No sprouts? 😡

Hard pass 😛

They are the vegetables of Satan. That is all 😱

Aspargar · 19/12/2024 21:33

One picture of all the family facing the camera. No blurring, no long distance shots and a message of happy Christmas. See it’s not hard

Awful card
CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:46

MayaKovskaya · 19/12/2024 21:26

They are the vegetables of Satan. That is all 😱

😢

Sprouts (and esp. sprouts with vinegar) are the nectar of the gods.

Unwanted donations welcome 🍴

Ohpleeeease · 19/12/2024 22:09

The card is of a standard we’ve come to expect from this couple. No surprises there. What interests me is who got one.

SundayDread · 19/12/2024 22:32

This card is an example of why I think what they say makes less and less sense.
They want privacy for their children, fine…
so why even put the backs of their heads on a card, why talk about them all the time. Either you are totally sheltering them from public life or not.
If this card came from ‘their office’ zero reason to include the children. I don’t think they can help themselves though.

Ohpleeeease · 19/12/2024 22:54

They’ve been mentioning the children a lot more since they were criticised for spending so much time away from them. This is damage limitation. But it is only a “Holiday” card so not worth getting too worked up about.

CurlewKate · 19/12/2024 22:56

@Aspargar
"This is Christmas. Therefore you wish a happy or merry Christmas"

Well, I do if I, or the person I am greeting celebrates Christmas. I'm not a Christian, but I celebrate Christmas because that is my culturally appropriate winter festival. Other winter festivals are available. And equally valid. And do not cancel each other out.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 19/12/2024 22:58

Aspargar · 19/12/2024 21:04

Your post doesn’t make sense.

This is Christmas. Therefore you wish a happy or merry Christmas. It’s also the time for Hanukkah and kwanzaa but people celebrating those traditions do not greet each other with ‘happy holidays’

They greet each other with ‘Happy Hanukkah’ and ‘Happy Kwanzaa’. Just like every other religious festival that is celebrated, you use the name of the festival. You do not disguise and police the name of the festival in order to not offend others or include others. Others who practice a different religion or aren’t religious at all, aren’t offended by the name of the festival celebrated by others.

Hindus should not start using ‘happy lights holiday’ to be more inclusive around the time of Diwali. They shouldn’t feel the need to make non Hindus feel included in their traditions either.

It’s deeply offensive to celebrate the Christmas festival if you cannot bring yourself to use its name. I’m not Christian but I’ve been raised in a culturally Christian country and I celebrate Christmas. If you send a Christmas card, then you are acknowledging that you are participating in the Christmas festival by virtue of sending a Christmas card. So use the traditional salutations. Don’t pretend you’re being inclusive. How can you be inclusive participating in a culturally Christian tradition that has no reverence for other religions/cultures. It makes no sense!

So Happy Christmas 🎄

Very well said!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 19/12/2024 22:58

CurlewKate · 19/12/2024 22:56

@Aspargar
"This is Christmas. Therefore you wish a happy or merry Christmas"

Well, I do if I, or the person I am greeting celebrates Christmas. I'm not a Christian, but I celebrate Christmas because that is my culturally appropriate winter festival. Other winter festivals are available. And equally valid. And do not cancel each other out.

And they all deserve to be respected.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 19/12/2024 23:00

CathyorClaire · 19/12/2024 21:20

No sprouts? 😡

Hard pass 😛

Did you know they are 8p a bag in Asda? And carrots, and parsnips!!

15p in Tesco!

LostInWrapping · 20/12/2024 01:16

Aspargar · 19/12/2024 21:33

One picture of all the family facing the camera. No blurring, no long distance shots and a message of happy Christmas. See it’s not hard

They’re in Britain though where saying Happy Christmas is common, whereas it’s really common to say Happy Holidays in the US.

The photo of William and Kate looks like a shot from the video message they did, which they used a marketing company for, so hardly just the simple shot you’re making it out to be.

Onlyonekenobe · 20/12/2024 01:42

Aspargar · 19/12/2024 21:04

Your post doesn’t make sense.

This is Christmas. Therefore you wish a happy or merry Christmas. It’s also the time for Hanukkah and kwanzaa but people celebrating those traditions do not greet each other with ‘happy holidays’

They greet each other with ‘Happy Hanukkah’ and ‘Happy Kwanzaa’. Just like every other religious festival that is celebrated, you use the name of the festival. You do not disguise and police the name of the festival in order to not offend others or include others. Others who practice a different religion or aren’t religious at all, aren’t offended by the name of the festival celebrated by others.

Hindus should not start using ‘happy lights holiday’ to be more inclusive around the time of Diwali. They shouldn’t feel the need to make non Hindus feel included in their traditions either.

It’s deeply offensive to celebrate the Christmas festival if you cannot bring yourself to use its name. I’m not Christian but I’ve been raised in a culturally Christian country and I celebrate Christmas. If you send a Christmas card, then you are acknowledging that you are participating in the Christmas festival by virtue of sending a Christmas card. So use the traditional salutations. Don’t pretend you’re being inclusive. How can you be inclusive participating in a culturally Christian tradition that has no reverence for other religions/cultures. It makes no sense!

So Happy Christmas 🎄

🤦‍♀️

It’s Happy Holidays precisely because Christmas, Hanukkah and Kwanzaa fall around the same time. They’re all holidays, holidays are the common denominator. It’s not to make generic Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa and delete their applicability to Christians or Jews or African Americans. It’s to not have to print in your cards:

“Happy Christmas /Hannukah/ Kwanzaa/Other*

*delete as appropriate”

One card, sent to everyone, who gets to interpret it however they see fit.

I can’t believe this is causing so much confusion or warrants such discussion. It’s not difficult or complicated or anything other than plain, simple, “Happy Whatever You Celebrate At This Time of Year, Whoever You Are”.

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