Harry not honouring Tyler Perry. Why?

[Sunblessed]

Way back in July, it was announced that Harry and Meghan are tribute chairs for Tyler Perry and the award he will receive at the Paley honours Gala on December 4th. See

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-celebrate-tyler-perry-paley-honor-8679521

Now we are told, even though Tyler has helped his family over the years and is his daughter’s godfather, that Harry won’t be attending the gala even though he is on the hosting committee. Instead Meghan will be on her own? See

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-attend-events-on-same-day-next-week-but-on-different-coasts-8751500

Why? It makes no sense. I understand that their work takes them different places but this is something they are both involved in. Harry is off to a book conference that just so happens to be on the 4th December, all the way in NY.

He was a chair of the committee and he doesn’t bother to show up? That’s really poor taste, for a man that has done so much for him.

It’s also just adding unnecessary fuel to fire that all is not well with their marriage. This is an event that they should be doing together, instead Meghan will be left to the red carpet on her own. If he didn’t want to be part of it, why did he join the hosting committee, if he never intended to host?

Then start your own thread talking about the Queens treatment of her horses.

This thread was created to talk about Harry choosing not to attend an award show for his friend. Harry was on the joint committee and was named press release as a host.

Yep.

Co-Chair $50,000
• 10 tickets to the cocktail reception
• Prime seating for 10 guests
• Color on-screen tribute ad
• On-screen & website listing as Co-Chair
• Inclusion in press release

I guess it makes sense that he pulled out at the last minute for a better gig. Also explains why he is still listed as a chair, he paid his monies to get his name in lights.

I’d never heard of the Paley Center before this. And don’t think it’s generally known in the UK.

What is its reputation, and relative standing amongst similar organisations?

So you are criticising the racing industry, fair enough, but you want people to watch a programme about another sport that is equally as cruel to horses 🤔

eta. Sorry for continuing derail, but this poster is plugging the polo show on a few threads and I got confused 😂

lol I’m not a critic, it’s just people rightly pointing out the long held RFs love of abusing animals for entertainment

It’s all about money then.

Very happy with the RF living off the land, charging cancer charities and ambulance parking high rental fees.

But God forbid H&M make money from Netflix and rich people buy tickets to an event.

No wonder the RF are so brazen, I’d take the piss too. Protecting and providing for an alleged nonce but it’s no bother everyone, look over there H&M are about to get a divorce, they are earning money, cancel them!

Which includes Harry’s love of polo, a programme about which you are enthusiastically reminding people to watch on several threads. Lol 🙄

typo

Oh god not again ... can't these buggers even hold events like this without feeling the need to gouge?
And yes, I feel exactly the same when the RF flog seats next to themselves at "charity" dinners, etc. ...

Typo

I wonder if Harry ever stops for a minute and wonders what his life had become.

I think it must be hardest for him not to share and socialise his DCs with his long term friends and family in the UK - for me that was one of the loveliest parts of having small children.

What's stopping him from doing that though?

Lots of people move abroad but still manage for their children to have a relationship with family in their home country. He has no real job and plenty of money, so could take the kids back to Britain several times a year if he wanted.

Maybe he doesn't want?

But.. but.. security!! Or that’s his excuse.

He's waiting on an apology ?

For what and from whom? Meanwhile his children lose out on a normal life.

Puzzledandpissedoff

I didn’t realise the royal family members flogged seats next to them at charity dinners etc. Although it really shouldn’t have surprised me.

They are really an unexceptional bunch. Except for their impressive ability to turn things to their favour. More disturbing I guess is that people pay money to bask in their ‘glow’ 😂😂. and their ‘glow’ isn’t their personalities or ethics that’s for sure.

My apologies, Puzzle. I forgot to hit the delete quote button.

I didn’t realise the royal family members flogged seats next to them at charity dinners etc. Although it really shouldn’t have surprised me.

They don’t. It’s always the Board of the charity and their biggest donors who sit at those tables.

No. He's not a very introspective person by all accounts and has a tendency to blame everyone around him for things that make him unhappy.

Industry rumour says he's not a happy bunny at the moment, but then there's always been rumours about his temper, sulks and outbursts of anger. The anger management issue in particular is why Cressida and Chelsy both ended their relationships with him. They found it alarming.

William used to be a bit like that too, but apparently he's got a lot better over the past 5 or so years: he's done a lot of therapy and I think getting closer to the Crown and watching his kids grow up has put a lot of things in perspective for him.

On Polo: there's a lot of whataboutery on this thread about horse cruelty in general which I'm not engaging with because it's not a subject I can speak on authority with (I rescue elderly dogs, and am an obsessed doggy person, so abhor all animal cruelty, but I do not know the Way of Horse). I'm more interested in Polo qua production and potential success. I do not think it's going to do numbers because:

1. The trailer's not doing numbers (only about 340k) and got heavily ratioed
2. It's not a sport which is popular either in the US or UK
3. The chief characters are unknown to the general public and on the basis of the trailer are not particularly charismatic or endearing
4. H&M aren't in it - so there'll be no RF gossip which is what people engage with them for
5. Wrong type of show for the current times - cost of living crisis etc - wealthy billionaires with manufactured problems - hoi polloi may not approve. (Sure, Succession was a hit but that is an exceptionally well written drama about billionaires fucking their lives up, which is the sort of content the gen public loves)
6. It dilutes their brand - I had a look at their original statement when they signed on with NF and they said they wanted to make content which "informs and uplifts". I'm unsure how Polo will fulfil those two aims.

@GiveMeSpanakopita

"It dilutes their brand - I had a look at their original statement when they signed on with NF and they said they wanted to make content which "informs and uplifts". I'm unsure how Polo will fulfil those two aims."

They are hoping it will uplift their finances and inform others about polo?

I don't see much evidence that they are interested in uplifting anyone as much as themselves.

LOL I don't disagree with you but I don't look at H&M from a personal/ethical perspective, purely from a PR perspective as I think it's fascinating. So my comment is less about whether they genuinely intended to 'inform and uplift' and more about how Polo coheres with, or contradicts, those stated brand values. IMHO it contradicts, and shifts their brand into more of a tawdry reality-TV based arena. And no judgement on that if that's what they want to do, it's a subsector that makes a hell of a lot of money. And if that's the subsector they're aiming for then ARO should be shifted downmarket to fit.

I would say that in terms of brand value they are now in a very, very different market to the one they were positioned in 5 years ago, which was more about humanitarian endeavours and, as they themselves put it, a 'life of service'.

That's the nub of their problem isn't it. They could probably make money doing tawdry reality TV type things but that doesn't chime with a life of service.

They really have trash talked themselves into a dead end. Too good for the places they could make money, too tarnished for those arenas they want to shine.

That's exactly it. They spread themselves and their brand way too thin at the start, and the NF docu Harry & Meghan was a terrible mistake brandwise, since it boxed them into a space where they can only now make money by dropping 'truth bombs' about the NF.

The problem with reality TV, is that yes you can make a lot of money from it but only if you're willing to kiss your dignity goodbye. The genre's been around for so long that you now have to do some pretty dramatic things to get views. No judgement from me there: Katie Price did extremely well from that playbook. And I always admired the way in which Jade Goody and Kerry Katona managed to parlay their childhood traumas into lucrative TV and magazine deals. But those three are/were savvy women, with honed survival instincts and a knack for knowing exactly how to play the cards life dealt them. Harry lacks that shark-like instinct because of his upbringing. Meghan might have it, in fact I think she probably does - but I'm not sure she'll be interesting enough to the general public without Harry. And she'll have to let go of any pretensions to making uplifting content and acts of service. She'll have to go downmarket and straight for the money.

Prince Harry has demanded an apology from the Royal Family for his wife Meghan, saying: "You know what you did, and I now know why you did it. And you've been caught out, so just come clean."

Harry’s own words but - as far as I know- he has never clarified what the RF ( allegedly) did/ said.

Is that his actual quote? That's an oddly threatening sort of tone to use with your own family.

It reminds me of the old blackmail scam - send enough people "I know your secret, send me money not to tell" which was said to lead to a surprisingly high level of pay out, even from people selected at random, because nigh on everyone has something they're ashamed of.

It's so vague that it does sound like "shake the tree and see what falls out"

You rescue elderly dogs!

Oh I've got a tear in my eye now, I think I might have found my retirement vocation.

A serious question - would you think about doing an AMA about it. I, for one, would love to hear how it works.