Harry not honouring Tyler Perry. Why?

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Way back in July, it was announced that Harry and Meghan are tribute chairs for Tyler Perry and the award he will receive at the Paley honours Gala on December 4th. See

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-celebrate-tyler-perry-paley-honor-8679521

Now we are told, even though Tyler has helped his family over the years and is his daughter’s godfather, that Harry won’t be attending the gala even though he is on the hosting committee. Instead Meghan will be on her own? See

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-attend-events-on-same-day-next-week-but-on-different-coasts-8751500

Why? It makes no sense. I understand that their work takes them different places but this is something they are both involved in. Harry is off to a book conference that just so happens to be on the 4th December, all the way in NY.

He was a chair of the committee and he doesn’t bother to show up? That’s really poor taste, for a man that has done so much for him.

It’s also just adding unnecessary fuel to fire that all is not well with their marriage. This is an event that they should be doing together, instead Meghan will be left to the red carpet on her own. If he didn’t want to be part of it, why did he join the hosting committee, if he never intended to host?

I really don't think anyone would damage their DC by slinging major dirt at their other parent. No one is that callous

Quite.

Harold's own parents f'rinstance never indulged in such skulduggery.

No, they didn't. Yes, the War of the Wales was real, but it wasn't a kiss and tell.

(And the Bashir manipulations must not be overlooked in this).

I wonder if there will be any follow on from The Hollywood Reporter?

Have they not damaged their DC already by slinging mud at their blood family - aunt / uncle / grandparents on both sides? They have robbed those children of the love and nurture of extended family and cousins - a luxury PH had.

Yes they did albeit through third parties. See Andrew Morton and Bunter Soames.

Bashir has been re-written as a useful idiot.

Diana didn't need manipulating. She was gagging to tell her side, saw a credible platform to air her woes and jumped on it.

Diana?

@gramachroi excellent point.

The problem is, their stuff doesn't do numbers. The Spare paperback has massively underperformed on revenue forecasts, possibly because Harry refused his publisher's request to add updates. The Invictus docu did dreadful numbers and lost Netflix money on promo. I don't know what The Bench was expected to do but haven't seen it in any bestseller lists.

The tell-all docu Harry & Meghan did good numbers initially but has lacked longevity which NF also tracks. Netflix needs expensive shows to have so-called 'replay value' ideally spanning a minimum of 3 to 5 years (since this is the time horizon for most institutional investors). Think about NF shows like Ozarks, Orange is the New Black and Better Call Saul - these are beautiful money makers for NF because new audiences keep discovering them, and fans rewatch. They're still bringing in money years after they debuted. H&M docu hasn't done that.

@Thedom puts it well. The problem with H&M's tell-all scoops on the RF is threefold:

1. None of the supposed abuses they suffered are actually particularly outrageous or juicy. Their tales of so-called bullying really just amount to the usual he-said-she-said and petty grudges you'll find in any mildly dysfunctional family (that is, pretty much all families)
2. M wasn't part of the RF for long enough to have enough material to sustain a career of dropping 'truth bombs' - and indeed she's now been out of the RF for so much longer than she's been in, and a lot's happened with the RF in those intervening years which M can't comment on, so any fresh truth bombs she might drop will be old news
3. So much of the original NF docu was found to be untrue or exaggerated, so anything else they say will be taken with a veritable mine full of salt

TLDR: I'm willing to bet H&M don't do the kind of numbers one might assume, and therefore H&M need a new and profitable schtick. Fast.

Who knows what goes on behind the anonymity of a keyboard !?

Did h and M not have a 4 book deal ?
@GiveMeSpanakopita — great posts .

Invictus that had no promo, you lot talk absolute nonsense

What love was ever extended to Archie??

Silence from all members of the RF when Archie was compared to a monkey.

No condemnation of the white supremacist podcasters who said Archie should be put down.

William correcting a reporter calling him a first time Uncle, Pippa made him one apparently, when Harry is his only sibling.

Kate who’s always fussing over babies straight up ignoring new Mom Meghan at Polo.

I’d be shocked if Charles saw Archie other than at his christening.

I’m glad Archie is with Grandma over in the US.

I think you're scraping the barrel a bit. The RF don't respond to every random online commentator. Very sensibly.

When my workplace hit the headlines in a negative way we were advised to stay off social media for our own mental health. The Comms team responded to genuine journalists with factual statements, but no-one has the capacity to monitor and respond to every niche podcast. In fact, responding e.g. to white supremacist podcasts would only validate them. Danny Baker was sacked, quite rightly, for comparing Archie to a monkey.

If William.sees himself as an uncle to Pippa's children isn't that a good thing? He is obviously close to his in.laws and sees them as family.

H&M weren't around for long enough for family members to develop a relationship with Archie. Who wasn't, despite the claims, denied a title because he is mixed race. Once his grandfather became king he got the title as laid out in 1917, long before M was on the scene...

Just to say re Rousette that I'd find it hard to believe she's here under another name. I think it must be very difficult to completely change your style of writing and nobody here recently has given me "Rousette" vibes. No "Just sayin' "s for example
We didn't agree on anything much about the RF but that didn't mean we couldn't have civilised/humorous exchanges.
Also, she was once very kind to me behind the scenes when I became the subject of a complete pile-on, so it behoves me to stand up for her now.

Huh! Editing took my smilie out. Reinserted it as that bit was meant light-heartedly.

Practice what you preach - silence from H&M when the internet, led by their very own Sussex Squad, was going wild with lurid speculation around W&K when K was battling cancer?

Guys let’s please stop accusing people of name changing. Even if this particular person has, whilst we rarely agreed on matters they were always polite, civil and fair. I don’t like these unfair pile ons and it’s not nice for either the aforementioned or the poster being accused of name changing if they are a genuine poster who just so happen to have a similar posting style and share similar opinions. We are allowed to disagree and challenge each other in a respectful manner.

Ahhh.

Got the gist of what's gone on here.

I miss that poster.

While she and I didn't agree on the Harolds she knew her stuff on the rest of the sorry bunch. It'd be nice to see her return.

Good to hear.

Just proves how clueless I am at spotting name changes and/or posting styles 🙄😁

I happened to see the preview trailer for Polo on Netflix the other day and I was quite struck that it doesn't seem to have any flavour of influence from H&M as far as I could see.

Yes there was a big title saying executive produced by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, but other than that, the treatment seemed to be very much in the style of a Netflix sports documentary, a la Drive to Survive, Sprint or similar. Very much leading on the glamour and wealth of the sport, with a clear "rivalry" storyline. And it looks (as you might expect) very US centred.

It looked to me very much like something that Netflix have made end to end and Harry has just stuck his name on. I couldn't detect any hallmarks of his input or influence at all.