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CathyorClaire · 22/11/2024 20:28

This was putting UK plc on show and will have earned far more than it cost us

Do you have a link to those stats?

BustingBaoBun · 22/11/2024 20:42

A further breakdown...

Dept of Culture Media & Sports spent over £50million (us). Policing was £21.7million paid by the Home Office (us)

However, within those figures are not costs for Transport for London, fire brigades, emergency services or local councils. That would have pushed the figure far over £100million. I imagine the concert in the evening featuring goodness knows who wouldn't be included either.

We never see the true figures. Just the minimum. In case the peasants get a bit cross.

derxa · 22/11/2024 20:45

BustingBaoBun · 22/11/2024 20:42

A further breakdown...

Dept of Culture Media & Sports spent over £50million (us). Policing was £21.7million paid by the Home Office (us)

However, within those figures are not costs for Transport for London, fire brigades, emergency services or local councils. That would have pushed the figure far over £100million. I imagine the concert in the evening featuring goodness knows who wouldn't be included either.

We never see the true figures. Just the minimum. In case the peasants get a bit cross.

Oh what a bore

BustingBaoBun · 22/11/2024 20:47

derxa · 22/11/2024 20:45

Oh what a bore

Yes, it was rather boring wasn't it.

Agree.

derxa · 22/11/2024 20:48

My DH can’t stand the Royal Family but he manages to object to it without being so childish about it

BustingBaoBun · 22/11/2024 20:54

derxa · 22/11/2024 20:48

My DH can’t stand the Royal Family but he manages to object to it without being so childish about it

I prefer to get up facts and figures which I don't consider to be 'childish'.

Garlicpest · 22/11/2024 21:01

Lemonadeand · 22/11/2024 10:49

It’s a historic event, not a “dressing up day”. Just because it’s meaningless to you, doesn’t mean it’s objectively meaningless.

Personally I’m in favour of a middle ground with a more low key royal family, similar to some of the other European countries.

Me, too. I'm annoyed at Charles's outrageous hypocrisy. We're seeing the real value of all his ramblings on ecology, streamlining the institution, reducing the pomp, thoughtful sensitivity, etc. He's never going to put his money where his mouth is, though he's got plenty to spare.

Moglet4 · 22/11/2024 21:29

isitsnowingyett · 22/11/2024 18:01

Maybe that's your subjective interpretation of what you usually read?

No subjective interpretation required- it’s usually really blatant and very rude - this thread has been really quite polite in comparison.

Moglet4 · 22/11/2024 21:34

Diomi · 22/11/2024 15:31

The royal family bring in masses of tourists. There are crowds round Buckingham palace every day and there are even more during changing of the guard. London is one of the most visited cities in the world (I think it was 2nd last year) and loads of those visitors go to the palace. The shops are packed with royal tat and coach loads of tourists pull up to those shops throughout the day. The royals bring lots of outside money into the country. The faces of our royals are plastered on magazines in Walmarts across the USA and they are often the only Brits many people have ever heard of. Whatever you think of them, they are a successful brand and the coronation helped that brand enormously.

The Americans certainly do love them, that’s true. I really don’t think the tourist money argument stacks up, though. Tourists visit the buildings, not the royals and that would continue with or without them (that goes for London too). Is it all about the money anyway though? Most people who object to the RF object to it on principle.

Moglet4 · 22/11/2024 21:39

crumblingschools · 22/11/2024 14:13

@Notmoog what drivel. I am just stating a fact that if you have very hungry children the chances are you are not in the percentage of families who are net contributors when it comes to tax. The RF do pay an element of tax, not as much as they could, but they do pay some and therefore if you are not a net contributor you benefit from other taxpayers which include the RF.

Much more money is wasted by the Government that probably results in hungry children than is spent on the RF. If we didn't have a RF would things improve for lots of people, I doubt it. There are more important things I worry about than whether we have a RF.

I’m sure it would improve for the poor beggars who live in Prince’s Trust properties with illegal levels of heat efficiency and mould all over the walls which the landlords - Charles and now William - refuse to address.

Patienceinshortsupply · 22/11/2024 21:47

Imagine waiting 73 years for something you were born to be, then getting cancer months later. I can't find it in my heart to resent that money.

The UK spent £3.7 billion, or 29% of its aid budget, supporting refugees in the UK in 2022. At least Charles put some work in.

username358 · 22/11/2024 21:49

Patienceinshortsupply · 22/11/2024 21:47

Imagine waiting 73 years for something you were born to be, then getting cancer months later. I can't find it in my heart to resent that money.

The UK spent £3.7 billion, or 29% of its aid budget, supporting refugees in the UK in 2022. At least Charles put some work in.

I'd rather my money went to asylum seekers than unelected billionaires.

TheDogBartholomew · 22/11/2024 22:36

Patienceinshortsupply · 22/11/2024 21:47

Imagine waiting 73 years for something you were born to be, then getting cancer months later. I can't find it in my heart to resent that money.

The UK spent £3.7 billion, or 29% of its aid budget, supporting refugees in the UK in 2022. At least Charles put some work in.

I don't think the country could afford to fund a church service and a parade for everyone who gets cancer, or for all the long term unemployed.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/11/2024 22:37

Imagine waiting 73 years for something you were born to be, then getting cancer months later

I agree that bit's tough, @Patienceinshortsupply, but then he's whined about his life for decades ("No one knows what utter hell it is being Prince of Wales") , so while nobody would actually wish this upon him, at least this time he's got a real reason to feel sorry for himself

Moglet4 · 22/11/2024 23:20

username358 · 22/11/2024 21:49

I'd rather my money went to asylum seekers than unelected billionaires.

Me too. Imagine how much more help we could offer the desperate if we weren’t funding the RF at all!

Foodie333 · 22/11/2024 23:34

Still not happy to support Camilla … certain her lung issues are due to her smoking which they all pretend she doesn’t do.
Also it’s suspicious that her son works at daily mail … suspect that why DM always gushing over her & pretending she is beautiful, kind, supports women, stylish etc. And why they bash Megan …. DM is Camilla deVile’s own poison pen gossip rag. And her smile is a snarl … whoever said Rottweiler was so right. Tax her 20% for being faux Queen.

KnickerlessParsons · 22/11/2024 23:50

I'd rather my money went to asylum seekers than unelected billionaires.

We spend quite enough already on asylum seekers.

username358 · 22/11/2024 23:53

KnickerlessParsons · 22/11/2024 23:50

I'd rather my money went to asylum seekers than unelected billionaires.

We spend quite enough already on asylum seekers.

We spend more than enough on the Royals. I'd choose helping others any day off the week.

dogwal · 23/11/2024 09:07

Huge amount of money, in this climate it really does beg the question of why it cost that much, They already own all the regalia, cathedral etc, but at least he is doing some sort of 'work' on behalf of the UK and the majority of British want the RF and want the pomp and circumstance. I think there would have been a bigger outcry if they didn't do a coronation, no matter what it cost.

The biggest waste of money EVER was the Harry wedding, around 40 million of taxpayers money, then he not only ditched his job a short time later, but disparaged everyone and anything to do with Britain and the British people, as he was stomping off. . Get the money back from Harry and use it for something worthtwhile, it's probably only about a third of the money he has been rumoured to have made off the back of the British people.

I believe Eugenie's wedding was also paid for by the taxpayer.

They do need to really do their homework on how and who they spend taxpayers money on.

A coronation every now and then is not such a bad thing at all.

Gall10 · 23/11/2024 11:08

upinaballoon · 22/11/2024 17:53

'Ordinary people' were invited to the coronation, not only VIPs. The poet laureate wrote a very nice poem about it.

I knew a communist who once told me off for using the words 'ordinary people'. I wonder if he's grown into a sad old bugger.

At least he’s probably not a sycophant.

quantumbutterfly · 23/11/2024 11:27

dogwal · 23/11/2024 09:07

Huge amount of money, in this climate it really does beg the question of why it cost that much, They already own all the regalia, cathedral etc, but at least he is doing some sort of 'work' on behalf of the UK and the majority of British want the RF and want the pomp and circumstance. I think there would have been a bigger outcry if they didn't do a coronation, no matter what it cost.

The biggest waste of money EVER was the Harry wedding, around 40 million of taxpayers money, then he not only ditched his job a short time later, but disparaged everyone and anything to do with Britain and the British people, as he was stomping off. . Get the money back from Harry and use it for something worthtwhile, it's probably only about a third of the money he has been rumoured to have made off the back of the British people.

I believe Eugenie's wedding was also paid for by the taxpayer.

They do need to really do their homework on how and who they spend taxpayers money on.

A coronation every now and then is not such a bad thing at all.

Most soap operas are better value for money.

Howmanytabbies765 · 23/11/2024 11:39

I was utterly appalled at this figure. Truly shocked that we wasted so much money on this frivolity.

Think what some of that money could do for a homeless person or a family with children living under the poverty line?

It wasn’t necessary to have such a lavish ceremony after the late Queen’s funeral and 10 days of mourning, which, according to the BBC, cost the government £162m.

Especially since Charles probably will not have long on the throne and is basically a care-taker for William.

Charles should have had the courage to stand by his word about a slimmed down monarchy, been a bit humble, and announced that in the light of the COL crisis, and following the funeral proceedings of his late mother, he would be having a slimmed down ceremony like many other monarchs in Europe, who dress in an ordinary suit and attend an ordinary church service, driving a fairly ordinary car, and become crowned that way?

If he didn’t want to do that, why couldn’t he have been crowned on a simple dais in the middle of Caernarfon castle with a choir made up of children from Wales, England, Scotland and N.Ireland?

I honestly thought there was something distastefully opulent about the whole thing and incredibly vulgar of them to be driving around in gold coaches, wearing diamond encrusted crowns, when so many of their subjects are living in very stretched economic circumstances.

I know KC’s slimmed down comment was directed at personnel but other EU countries manage with one elected President or “modestly” housed royals, meaning in this context, they have one plave in the country,
and a place in town generally speaking and do not have access to twelve or more vast estates!

Nor fo all of their minor family members live in massive houses either.

I thought the idea of the RF was that they were meant to serve the country and not the other way around?

BustingBaoBun · 23/11/2024 11:46

If he didn’t want to do that, why couldn’t he have been crowned on a simple dais in the middle of Caernarfon castle with a choir made up of children from Wales, England, Scotland and N.Ireland?

I totally agree with you. They could've had a marching band too, there are regimental bands from Wales & Scotland. That would have been unifying. But no, it's the whole shebang... gold coaches and all of that.

I found the whole thing in poor taste. Why people buy into this ridiculous lavishness I do not know.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 23/11/2024 11:57

Wahoobafoo · 22/11/2024 11:56

I thought it would be a lot more than £72million

The Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony cost €1 billion and that was really shite 💩

I agree the £72m coronation was a bargain compared to the French paying €1,000m to see a naked blue man 🤣

At least £72million on dressing up day
Havalona · 23/11/2024 11:59

Just goes to show that they may as well be A listers and millionaire celebs with more money than brains, but it's a sure thing that despite all their "old" money, they really don't have any class or taste, or any inkling of the real world that's out there.