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crumblingschools · 22/11/2024 17:59

@IcedPurple the non staunch republicans don’t seem to hurl as many insults.

I am not a sycophant and wouldn’t bow or curtesy. Wouldn’t want to be part of RF. But quite like the idea of a monarchy. And as you say the angry people on this thread aren’t really saying what they would have instead and how it would work and how everything in the country would suddenly become rosy.

isitsnowingyett · 22/11/2024 18:01

Moglet4 · 22/11/2024 17:48

Have to say, it’s nice to see so much disgust for once! This forum usually has royal grovellers out in force.

Maybe that's your subjective interpretation of what you usually read?

MarvelJesus · 22/11/2024 18:01

Notmoog · 22/11/2024 11:58

not as much as it cost......

Where did you get that from? A poster on your own thread has posted this:

“Prior to the event, economic forecasters, the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR), had predicted a boost of £337m for the UK's economy due to the coronation - including £104m in extra pub spending and an estimated £223m spend from tourism to the UK during the period.
Hotel revenue was also said to be up by 54% compared to the same point in the previous year, while bookings for UK-bound flights for the coronation weekend jumped by 149% within 24 hours of the day being announced, according to TravelPort.”

Notmoog · 22/11/2024 18:04

I would have a system where an elected person/ body is head of state for a fixed term .
They're basically ambassadors, why does it have to be the one family?
And I'm pretty certain not one person saying get rid of them has suggested that would make everything rosy but it would sure make a start on demonstrating that the country is trying to give equality to the people.

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Notmoog · 22/11/2024 18:04

MarvelJesus · 22/11/2024 18:01

Where did you get that from? A poster on your own thread has posted this:

“Prior to the event, economic forecasters, the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR), had predicted a boost of £337m for the UK's economy due to the coronation - including £104m in extra pub spending and an estimated £223m spend from tourism to the UK during the period.
Hotel revenue was also said to be up by 54% compared to the same point in the previous year, while bookings for UK-bound flights for the coronation weekend jumped by 149% within 24 hours of the day being announced, according to TravelPort.”

more predictions, estimates etc.

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isitsnowingyett · 22/11/2024 18:06

I'd rather spend this than all the billions spent on illegal immigrants in this country. That concerns me more.

isitsnowingyett · 22/11/2024 18:09

Notmoog · 22/11/2024 18:04

I would have a system where an elected person/ body is head of state for a fixed term .
They're basically ambassadors, why does it have to be the one family?
And I'm pretty certain not one person saying get rid of them has suggested that would make everything rosy but it would sure make a start on demonstrating that the country is trying to give equality to the people.

I'm sad to burst your bubble but there is no country in the world where this kind of fantasy exists. There will always be a Lord of the Flies outcome regardless of who or what is in power.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/11/2024 18:09

Was this the ceremony where the Crown got it's own Rolls Royce to transport it on a velvet cushion? And everyone jumping to attention as it arrived

@BustingBaoBun it seems that the crown even gets its own car for the State Opening of Parliament, so while I don't actually know this I'd say it's likely to have the same for a coronation

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/queens-speech-crown-car-parliament-b2075572.html

Queen’s Speech: Why does the crown have its own car?

The jewel-encrusted crown is so valuable that only a few people are allowed to touch it

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/queens-speech-crown-car-parliament-b2075572.html

whathaveiforgotten · 22/11/2024 18:15

crumblingschools · 22/11/2024 13:21

@Notmoog but Amazon aren’t too keen on paying tax in this country though, which is something you don’t like about the RF

Yes but people can opt out of contributing to Amazon's profits. They can't opt out of contributing to the monarchy.

whathaveiforgotten · 22/11/2024 18:17

I don't know how anyone can say the monarchy is fit for purpose in this day and age when it's through sheer accident of birth order that it wasn't bloody Andrew being crowned during the Coronation. If he had been born first, he would be king now...

LaMarschallin · 22/11/2024 19:03

isitsnowingyett · 22/11/2024 16:56

Well at least we will hopefully get several years out of him as opposed to what we got for 32million for Harry and Meghan's not really a wedding wedding.

But we did get to see Meghan in a sparkly hat (even if it wasn't the sparkly hat she first fancied). It even had a white wafty bit attached for some reason.

BustingBaoBun · 22/11/2024 19:04

whathaveiforgotten · 22/11/2024 18:15

Yes but people can opt out of contributing to Amazon's profits. They can't opt out of contributing to the monarchy.

Exactly. One of my DCs feels quite strongly about this and never ever orders from Amazon.
Choice, innit...

No choice with the Monarchy

HoneyButterPopcorn · 22/11/2024 19:05

I would have expected at least a piece of cake and a balloon.

BustingBaoBun · 22/11/2024 19:07

crumblingschools · 22/11/2024 17:59

@IcedPurple the non staunch republicans don’t seem to hurl as many insults.

I am not a sycophant and wouldn’t bow or curtesy. Wouldn’t want to be part of RF. But quite like the idea of a monarchy. And as you say the angry people on this thread aren’t really saying what they would have instead and how it would work and how everything in the country would suddenly become rosy.

There is no way anyone on here could unravel centuries of a constitutional monarchy so maybe that's why they are not coming up with answers.

For me, I know without doubt nothing will change in that they are not going anywhere.

However, changes could be made. That ain't happening either.

I don't want to see any of the wider family. The King for constitutional purposes and that's it, would do for me.

Meadowfinch · 22/11/2024 19:16

Havalona · 22/11/2024 10:26

They could have streamed it from Spotify 😊

I wonder how much the BBC earned from selling the coverage overseas?

How much extra did the London & home counties hotels and restaurants take over that week?

How much extra did Heathrow and Gatwick earn through increased footfall?

How much extra did BA and Virgin take? The train companies?

How much extra was spent on clothes and shoes and other incidentals

How much did people spend on memorabilia? On coins & stamps and first day covers?

A great deal more than £72 million. This was putting UK plc on show and will have earned far more than it cost us. It might not be my thing but London was packed with foreign tourists spending.

BasiliskStare · 22/11/2024 19:51

If I am honest I like having a constitutional monarchy - call me naive but I think it gives some continuity and there is some benefit to the economy.

But I do agree with @CathyorClaire or and others - they need to get their inheritance tax sorted out. There are enough Crown properties they can live in. I don't like the fact late Queen's money could be handed down without inheritance tax.

wordler · 22/11/2024 19:54

I think the only thing that would significantly move the needle towards a republic would be if we were facing a truly awful heir prospect - an Edward VIII, an Andrew or even a Harry. Someone who would appear to bring the position into disrepute.

In the past that person would have been ‘managed out’ like Edward but now I think it would be a good argument for changing the system.

So unless George turns into a bad ‘un the
future is looking fairly calm and neutral.

MrsPeterHarris · 22/11/2024 20:01

WinterIsNearlyHere · 22/11/2024 11:08

I don't think it's that much tbh, for this sort of event.

Also just read this:

Prior to the event, economic forecasters, the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR), had predicted a boost of £337m for the UK's economy due to the coronation - including £104m in extra pub spending and an estimated £223m spend from tourism to the UK during the period.
Hotel revenue was also said to be up by 54% compared to the same point in the previous year, while bookings for UK-bound flights for the coronation weekend jumped by 149% within 24 hours of the day being announced, according to TravelPort.
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This!

Plus I watched and loved every minute & spent a small fortune celebrating with friends and family! A joyous occasion!

Serenster · 22/11/2024 20:02

i imagine the cost will also include the two receptions held by Charles for Commonwealth Leaders and Foreign Heads of State at Buckingham Palace - two major diplomatic events that the Foreign Office will be delighted to have to opportunity to organise as a promotion of UK PLC.

Plus images of London and 100 years of heritage was front page news and top of the news feeds worldwide. Countries spend far more than the cost of the coronation to try and achieve that kind of marketing and international awareness. Samoa recently spent $40m to host the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, for example.

And, as others have said, the money didn’t just disappear. it was spent on salaries, commissions, purchases - directly into the economy, in other words. Documentaries made at the time about, for example, the uniforms that were commisisoned made this very clear.

Bazinga007 · 22/11/2024 20:03

Well, I want my quid back. Of course some of everybody's tax pounds are wastes, but why are we paying for this jobless spongers "special day".

Serenster · 22/11/2024 20:07

Bazinga007 · 22/11/2024 20:03

Well, I want my quid back. Of course some of everybody's tax pounds are wastes, but why are we paying for this jobless spongers "special day".

The same reason we are paying to maintain Palace of Westminster - the prevailing view is that the key components of our constitution are accorded a certain status, and then maintained.

That prevailing view may change in future of course. But until it does, the views of the majority prevail.

wordler · 22/11/2024 20:12

Did anyone watch the Danish Crown handover? That was a lot less fuss and definitely a cheaper model.

It was a little bare bones though - I thought the abdicating Queen looked a little sad and lonely shuffling out of the room all in her own.

CathyorClaire · 22/11/2024 20:17

He talks a lot about environmental issues

He certainly does for someone who takes a chopper the same way the rest of us take buses.

Incidentally, he appears to be treating himself to a couple of updates with the obscenely profitable proceeds from the sale of licences for wind farms situated on seabeds appropriated for the monarchy by her late and dutiful majesty.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1927183/royals-buy-two-new-helicopters-eight-million

Said proceeds were originally touted as the king wishing them to be used for 'the wider public good' with no mention of his carving a slice for the doggy bag.

Guess £45m was just too juicy to pass up.

IcedPurple · 22/11/2024 20:22

wordler · 22/11/2024 20:12

Did anyone watch the Danish Crown handover? That was a lot less fuss and definitely a cheaper model.

It was a little bare bones though - I thought the abdicating Queen looked a little sad and lonely shuffling out of the room all in her own.

I didn't like it.

I felt exactly the same as you about the Queen just getting up and walking out of the room alone. I thought it was a little bit sad and harsh.

But yes, it was cheap. So there's that.

CathyorClaire · 22/11/2024 20:25

MarvelJesus · 22/11/2024 18:01

Where did you get that from? A poster on your own thread has posted this:

“Prior to the event, economic forecasters, the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR), had predicted a boost of £337m for the UK's economy due to the coronation - including £104m in extra pub spending and an estimated £223m spend from tourism to the UK during the period.
Hotel revenue was also said to be up by 54% compared to the same point in the previous year, while bookings for UK-bound flights for the coronation weekend jumped by 149% within 24 hours of the day being announced, according to TravelPort.”

Does that take into account the cost to the country in the lost productivity associated with the additional bank holiday?