At least £72million on dressing up day

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/21/obscene-anger-after-cost-of-king-charless-coronation-revealed

Anyone care to justify this?(oh, and no, it didn't bring in more money via tourists etc.)

As a PP said, a President would have been elected. Not sitting under a gold hat because an ancester was more of a bastard than the other barons.

Oh yes because Donald Trump totally got his money through merit and has not at all been a bastard. You’re incredibly naive if you think “elected” means the best person for the job gets it.

Chaud Tony was worth every penny however!

I agree that the general public have been apathetic when it comes to monarchy, but people are waking up a bit now.

Also, change is very hard when there is no accessible and available path to follow in order to effect it.

For example, when the late Queen died, I don’t think more than 72 hrs had passed before heralds were “proclamating” in various locations, that Charles was now our monarch.

That unseemly haste definitely has a strategic purpose.

When I protested that after a seventy-year reign, British subjects should at least have a say about whether we want to have a monarchy or not, I was told on these boards, in outraged tones that, “that was the way a hereditary monarchy works”!

And in the wake of QE2’s death, and attendant emotion, it was if I had suggested shooting a puppy.

OK then.

But when do we get to have a say?

And how do we get to have a say?

Preferably at a time when no one has died and no one is waiting to take over?

Imho, the whole point of living in a democracy means that there should be some open and accessible process for deciding whether we want a monarchy or not, other than joining a protest group, and risk getting arrested for protesting peacefully, or having to go to the trouble of making an appointment with our local MP, with no guarantee that they will raise the matter in Parliament.

We could easily have a say at the next general election, if the will was there, by adding an additional tick box to our ballot papers. It needn’t cost a fortune. We have the technology.

But it would be good to have some “official” debate first about how we envisage the future of Britain and what sort of society we want it to be? No one wants to just throw out our rich history, culture, and traditions without proper thought and debate as to how we can conserve the best of them. On the other hand, if you are shivering in a shop doorway with no bed for the night, or living hand-to-mouth with small dc in a b&b, you probably don’t care very much about the correct preservation of the Coronation Spoon.

Maybe this Labour government will at least clear time in Parliament for some debate on this issue?

The Princes Trust does amazing work with young people in challenging circumstances. I don't think they provide accommodation themselves.

If you get the basic facts wrong then it doesn't suggest you have given the matter enough thought for an informed opinion.

It's Duchy properties. Not Prince's Trust. Which is now King's Trust as William didn't take it on.

He's a grasping hypocrite and the cost of the coronation is obscene.

You can win more than that on the lottery.

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what does this mean?

This Tuesday Euromillions £173 Million*

Hope that helps.

not really. I don't understand
are you on the right board?

Of course. That the poster mixes them up suggests their thinking is based on clickbait.

I can't understand ordinary people trying to justify this. The royal family seem to bring out a deferential mentality in people that probably live a normal life and don't question the ridiculous waste of resources being spent. They sound brainwashed.

I do agree with that.

Cost of Meghan and Harry's wedding - 32 million .

I consider H&M's wedding to be excessive, (which was itself paid for by Charles), the 32 Million was the security.
However, as Meghan has since said or implied that all of the UK are racist, and that the wedding was just a spectacle, I wish she had had the small wedding, initially offered by the late Queen, instead of inviting a host of celebrities she had never met.
As regards the coronation, I have not watched it. I recorded it, but the derential tone of the commentators put me off actually watching it.
I have gone through various thoughts, and yes, I'm not a follower, but there seems to be enough people who turn out for these occassions, that I sense the monarchy will continue for a while. However, I see a future where it has ceased to exist in its current form.

I don't care if it's "historical". It has no place in a modern society. It's feudal, know-your-place bollocks. Get rid of the lot of them. Grasping fucking parasites.

We're not a superpower any more, or even that important. I'd like to see them scaled back to Dutch/Swedish levels.

Time to get rid of them all.

This is exactly the discussion that will - and should- take place with an elected Head of State. How much should be spent on an inauguration?

Opinions will vary. Scandinavian monarchies, for example, spend less than a US Presidential inauguration.

In other words, it is a separate issue than whether the HoS is elected or a monarchy.

Personally I see arguments for both sides, with a slight preference for not going through the expense and distraction of major constitutional change, following the farce that was Brexit. But also thinking an inherited position is an anachronism these days.

Edited - spell check changed 'farce' to 'force'

So agree @Baital

A scaled down version of the constitutional Monarchy is my wish.

Totally agree with you. Also you don’t need a coronation to be king - he was already king. It makes me sick - people are in dire poverty in this country and even if it only equates to a pound per person, the optics are reprehensible.

Brexit is a good example of why the first stage of any change should not be a simple check box in the electoral ballot box. As we have seen yes/no questions are too simple to base a significant and complex change on.

Maybe William will follow his namesake William IV who didn’t want a coronation at all but was persuaded to, but then spent so little on it that it became known as the ‘penny coronation’. He refused to have a banquet because he thought it would cost too much money.

That's interesting, because you come across differently from the occasional visitor. One of the rabid 'they disgust me, the country would immediately be better without them' posters.

Maybe this Labour government will at least clear time in Parliament for some debate on this issue?

I very much doubt it, @Howmanytabbies765; it's notable how many MPs of every stripe quickly "go native" once elected, and if any waver they can always be bought off with the privilege the RF's able to deploy

Even the MP Norman Baker who wrote the excellent "And What Do You Do?" couldn't resist his invitation to join the Privy Council, though TBF that didn't stop him writing it