Where is Harry?

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Just that.

@smilesy Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. It annoys me very much that people are making this whole thing into an issue. There was an active terrorist threat and some people are acting like she got an escort to avoid traffic because she cba with traffic, which is not the case.

With absolutely no snide - I’m just not across the theories…

What are the current thoughts on where Harry is? The state of the marriage? Why the notion of rehab? What’s the addiction (supposedly)? Is he trying to get back into the UK RF?

Again, I’ve no opinion - just interested to know the current thoughts / knowledge.

Close personal protection is not solely given to cabinet members or the RF.

It's also available privately and successfully including arena scenarios. One example:

www.senturiansecurity.co.uk/services/close-protection-officers/

some people are acting like she got an escort to avoid traffic because she cba with traffic, which is not the case.

Link to these posts?

@CathyorClaire Start a thread about Taylor if that’s what you want to talk about. Go goad someone else.

As for the thread at hand: I expect Harry is either quietly at home or quietly still in South Africa deciding on what to do next. I find it unlikely that he’s looking for a divorce because even he knows that it would mean leaving his kids in California and I don’t think he’s that much of an arsehole.

Harry had a 3 book deal and so far only published one (with insanely impressive sales). Perhaps he’s holed up with his ghost writer getting the next one ready.

the London Mayor made a good call, you really can’t be having Taylor Swift dying on your watch. It would be terribly awkward.

Start a thread about Taylor if that’s what you want to talk about. Go goad someone else.

Threads meander. It's an interesting debate and others are engaging with it.

You can always scroll past the bits that irk 🙂

Harry had a 3 book deal and so far only published one (with insanely impressive sales)

Profits for the publishers weren't quite so insane though...

Richard Osman was talking about Boris Johnson’s book in his podcast last week, and how his £2m advance was being paid in instalments of £500,000, with the last quarter being paid only on release of the paperback version. It made me wonder if Harry has the same kind of structure for his rumoured £10m advance, and that’s why the paperback is being released soon, even though it’s unlikely to be a large market of potential buyers out there?

Anyway, Richard has consistently said Harry and his publisher will have both made an awful lot of money from Spare.

Anyway, Richard has consistently said Harry and his publisher will have both made an awful lot of money from Spare.

The net profit figures for the publishers don't bear this out.

Boris may well be witholding a bit of salacious dirt to boost his paperback sales.

Harold has already confirmed he isn't.

The net profit figures for the publishers don't bear this out

It would be helpful if you pointed to what you’re looking at to say this.

Reading Penguin Tandom House’s parent company, Bertelsmann SA’s annual report for the Financial Year ended 31 December 2023 doesn’t bear this out at all. (Penguin Random House has 117 separate companies in its group, managing its global enterprises under various different brands, so the consolidated accounts of the parents are the best way to get an overview). Their summary:

Penguin Random House’s book sales in most of its territories, including the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany and Spain, outperformed their respective book markets thanks to strong divisional publishing programs…

The year’s biggest bestsellers in the United States included “Spare” by Prince Harry, which sold more than three million copies, “Outlive” by Peter Attia with Bill Gifford, “Lessons in Chemistry” by Bonnie Garmus, “The Exchange” by John Grisham, “Atomic Habits” by James Clear, and “Taylor Swift: A Little Golden Book” by Wendy Loggia, each of which sold more than a million copies..

Penguin Random House UK outperformed the market despite negative macroeconomic influences. The British publishing group increased both its market share and its revenues thanks to successful bestsellers, higher audiobook sales, and a solid international business. The year’s best-selling books included “Spare,” “Lessons in Chemistry,” and “Atomic Habits.” At DK Publishing, the DK Alpha imprint, with bestsellers such as “Baking Yesteryear,” and the travel guide business were particularly successful.

Penguin Random House’s revenue went up from 4.2bn in 2022 to 4.5bn in 2023, as shown in the Group accounts. That’s quite a jump.

Agreed. Misogynists.

Penguin Random House’s revenue went up from 4.2bn in 2022 to 4.5bn in 2023, as shown in the Group accounts.

Ooh, interesting. Has anyone got the net profit figures though? In particular, for the Spare book, or is it still too soon?

I doubt that Richard Osman's 'awful lot of money' is the same as Harry's, given that Richard Osman seems to have his feet on the ground and doesn't spend many ££millions a year on lifestyle running costs.

Spare sold because so many people enjoy reading gossip about the Royal Family. Since the OW interview Harry hasn’t really been included in RF matters and is no longer being told anything personal . Remember he and Meghan only found out about Catherine’s cancer along with the rest of the world . The RF know he can’t be trusted .
So the question is - what on earth is left for him to say ? I cannot see a book about polo selling well !

I was just idly thinking that Harry probably wouldn’t get on with Richard Osman. He’s an awful lot taller than Harry 😂

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That made me laugh 😂😂

You Just proved her point

She is the most bullied woman in the world by a bunch of sexist women in the main who think she should know her place.

You're quite right.
Not just taller but better educated, able to produce books based on more than "My family were mean to me", has more hair, is witty...

I think the women of Iran and Afghanistan may beg to differ

@ThePoshUns pointless comment. She is the most bullied woman worldwide I would say. Global news outlets bullying her on a daily basis along with people on mumsnet and other forums. All because of what exactly? How they live their lives isn’t anyone’s business.

Oh well if you say, it must be true then. Silly me.

Sexist women? In what way sexist when most also equally dislike what Harry has said / done?

I am not getting ‘know her place’ vibes. Isn’t it rather the lack of recognition that William is higher up the hierarchy than Harry? That is somewhat different.

He can fill it with lectures about what we should all be doing and what we’re doing wrong? He seems to enjoy that.

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I am not getting ‘know her place’ vibes. Isn’t it rather the lack of recognition that William is higher up the hierarchy than Harry? That is somewhat different.

Absolutely.
Her "place" in the whole royal scheme of things would be not too far from the top, if she was a working royal.
Apparently, she still sees it as "her place" to be called "Ma'am", curtseyed to, to be able to ring up politicians announcing herself by a royal title and to trip along, wearing a playsuit, at the head of a veterans' parade.
If I, in my place, tried eg telephoning some senator to tell them my views, I'm sure I'd be given a flea in my ear (albeit politely) pretty rapidly. I'm not sure I'd get through to my local MP that easily.
Her "place", as she seems to see it, unfortunately depends on a very few people having more important places than her because that's how royalty works and she doesn't like William (and particularly Kate, I think) having a higher place.