Where is Harry?

[Rhaidimiddim]

Just that.

'Unfortunately we've now potentially given his security gripes fresh legs by blue-lighting a billionaire pop princess through London'

Difference being, I suppose, there had been very real and credible threats against Taylor Swift just a couple of days before, along with the awful reality of the Manchester Arena bombing.

Taylor Swift has had to cancel concerts due to terrorist threats.

I know someone who reports to RAVEC. Their decisions aren't based on whims, they're deeply analysed. His role is to assess whether identified individuals are likely to carry out their threats, whether they're being manipulated etc.

As we've had no incidents relating to VIPs in spite of constant threats, I can only assume that they're making all the right decisions.

Harry and his supporters won’t see this, but the Taylor Swift example undermines Harry’s case, it doesn’t support it. It shows that the Met (who already have a separate division that is available to protect public figures other than royals and MPs - it protected Salman Rushdie and I’m guessing recently Holly Willoughby, for example) will provide security if their assessment of the level of threat justifies it. There was obviously a high threat level against Taylor - she had to cancel the tour leg immediately before she travelled to London. And while MPs may have been lobbying, we have no indication what tilted the scales with the Met - the potential threat is obvious though, even to plebs like us.

Harry has the same deal as Taylor - if there’s a serious threat, you’ll get security. So far presumably he’s not passed that threshold. Taylor did.

In the oven behind the rice pudding!

It is somewhat noteworthy that such a public figure who courts a fanfare when he goes on his various jaunts has suddenly gone MIA. It's only vaguely interesting though. He's probably just quietly getting on with it or he could be in rehab but why fly round the world to do that. Equally, he could be in the UK having family talks. None of us know. Time will tell. It was only a few days ago that he referenced his "wonderful wife", so a split would be a surprise.

I thought exactly the same, so the Met is for hire then, at the right price, Harry will be rubbing his hands in glee at that one, though it will be hilarious in court to hear him bleat on how he’s just as important as Taylor Swift.

I don't see him ever leaving his children to return to the UK. Since they are American, I think he'll also stay there for the forseeable future married or not.

As long as he can. We still don't know what visa he's on...

Quoting myself but the previous posts by @Serenster @Gorgonemilezola and@PlayDadiFreyr put a much different slant, I had forgotten about the terrorist threat which would explain why she did receive Met security, though I still expect Harry will still use it to support his non existent case.

And don't think we'll ever find out

Tbf, the Met were not happy about being asked to do this and it must have come from government as it was at the taxpayers expense that the special protection personnel are deployed. Taylor Swift didn’t pay for it

Why does anyone care? I will never understand this obsession with Harry and Meghan. It's so weird.

I agree. And I think the Taylor situation actually undermines H's case for 24/7/365 protection.

Taylor Swift found herself in a situation where there was a current, immediate credible threat, and the forces swung into action to provide protection. The same would happen for H, regardless of any 28-day assessment if there was a current and immediate credible threat to him or his family.

I didn't see your post before writing my last one.

“Wonderful wife” probably means nothing. People often overdo the mentions when there’s trouble afoot thinking it’ll fool everyone.

I heard that he referenced his "lovely wife" at the Well Child event.

"Lovely" is an odd word. Often used in situations where something complementary has to be said about a woman, and "lovely" is the anodyne cop-out. An equivalent of "nice".

How is the Met for hire? I assume that they provided the protection for free, in order to keep a VIP safe, once it has been deemed that the VIP is under a current threat. That, I believe, is the way it works - you don't ring them up and hire them.

If anyone has deeper understanding of how these arrangements work, and if money changes hands, please put me right!

Yea it was at taxpayers expense and from
what I read , Scotland Yard were not happy about it

Ah, I'd forgotten about the visa case, which is potentially ongoing pending an appeal by the Heritage Foundation. The redacted stuff sounded like it could be bad.

I'm getting my bingo card out now.

No worries - great minds and all that!

I may not understand it all but I thought Archie was born in the UK surely he will be classed as British.
Lilibet is American as she was born there.

It just reminds me of contestants on "Pointless". They always say things like "And this is my wonderful husband" or And this is my gorgeous wife" and you think "Huh? What now?".
You'll know if it's my DH and me on "Pointless" as we'll refer to the other as "my adequate spouse".

Both kids will have dual nationally, regardless of where they were born.

Exactly this.

It doesn't sit well with me that multi-millionaires who routinely hire their own expert security services are being subbed by already heavily over-stretched public services, especially when they're here to promote themselves and/or line their swollen pockets even further.

It sits even less well that we now find so many government figures accepted top-range hospitality freebies in respect of these concerts.

Absolute swilling 😡