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Meg’s era of joy

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Triplesec · 06/10/2024 22:40

Showing up to support her very close friend who lost her child and also the children’s hospital at an evening gala. What a friend to have in the Duchess. Meghan was glowing, fresh faced, wore minimal makeup, was confidant and smiley. She was well spoken and supportive of the evening fund raiser when interviewed. Show Up, Do Good. Yes, she always does. Loved her look too.

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Mylovelygreendress · 11/10/2024 11:33

@Serenster that is hilarious !

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 11:55

CathyorClaire · 11/10/2024 10:38

I cannot take my eyes of the trajectory of Meghan - it's riveting.

I know what you mean but I think it's less of a trajectory and more of a failure to launch 😁

Indeed! 😂

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 11/10/2024 12:01

I wouldn’t be surprised if she has some form of ADHD. She has lots of ideas but poor follow through, seems quite impulsive (I still maintain Harry was blindsided with her comments during Oprah) and she seems to love talking about herself but gets bored listening to other people talk about themselves.

I do wonder if their therapist gets paid to tell them what they want to hear rather than trying to actually help them. They bring so much stuff on themselves and then wonder why the press and public give them a rough time.

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 12:02

@Serenster

Oh dear God! That is nauseating stuff. If I had ever written that, my friends and family would have laughed me out of the house. And I think that's part of M's problem. She's grown up in, and has chosen to inhabit, a world where people a) spout rubbish and b) mutually prop up each other's pretensions. No-one seems to have told her the awful truth...

I think this is the issue now for Meghan. She didn't like being in the RF, partly because their were horrid courtiers and officials who sometimes told her 'No', or who gave her advice she didn't like. But they were experienced and knew their jobs. Now she and H have fled to freedom, they employ staff who are probably absolutely terrified to give them the right advice, to tell them the truth about their daft, half-baked ideas and their ridiculous posturing and pretentiousness. If they give them the advice they actually need to hear, they'll lose their job - or their lives will be made hell by tantruming Meghan.

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 12:06

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 11/10/2024 12:01

I wouldn’t be surprised if she has some form of ADHD. She has lots of ideas but poor follow through, seems quite impulsive (I still maintain Harry was blindsided with her comments during Oprah) and she seems to love talking about herself but gets bored listening to other people talk about themselves.

I do wonder if their therapist gets paid to tell them what they want to hear rather than trying to actually help them. They bring so much stuff on themselves and then wonder why the press and public give them a rough time.

I've thought the same, Pretty. She clearly has a major issue with any form of calm concentration. And I suspect they surround themselves with 'Yes-people'.

I recommend Dr Raj Persaud on YouTube talking about why H's therapy doesn't seem to have worked, and he basically says the same thing. No-one will tell Harry the uncomfortable truths because H doesn't want to hear them and will just ditch the therapist and move on to someone who's prepared to make him feel good about himself, and not try to make him face any kind of responsibility for what has happened in his life.

Uricon2 · 11/10/2024 12:06

(I also massively side-eye the BAFTAs bit. Why would any UK-based jewellery company offer a then little-known American tv actress the chance to be their ambassador at an event celebrating t UK film industry?)

@Serenster I agree. I'd need to absolute incontrovertible proof before believing that one.

DalRiata · 11/10/2024 12:07

Serenster · 11/10/2024 11:23

She has learned the right things to say - that she cares, that charity work 'feeds her soul' (a quote I remember from early on) and all the other virtue-signalling tripe we hear in the word-salad speeches. But I really thing she doesn't get that you actually have to walk the walk too - and she seems incapable of doing that.

This is what Meghan wrote on the Tig in 2016, about a week before her relationship with Harry was made public (I know, what a coincidence! Just before the world finds out who she is she’s out there burnishing her philanthropic credentials…) . I think the pendulum has swung quite a bit further to the excess side now she’s picked the Hollywood life than she she wanted to suggest at that stage

It was just last year that I was in the van heading back from Gihembe refugee camp in Rwanda. I was in the country as an advocate for UN Women…. Driving back on the dusty roads that day, now back on the grid of tech and Hollywood, I received an email from my managers with a request for me to attend the BAFTAs. I had never been and had always romanticized the idea of it – and per the email, a high end jewelry company was going to fly me in, get me dolled up in the fanciest of gowns, and I would travel straight from Kigali to Heathrow, to the makeup chair, and immediately onto the red carpet.

My brain, heart, spirit couldn’t shift gears that quickly – from the purpose-driven work I had been doing all week in Rwanda, to the glitz and glamour of an award show – plus the pomp and circumstance that comes with it. “No,” my heart said. And it wasn’t a soft whisper to myself; it was a lion’s roar. … My gut said, “No.” While my two worlds can coexist, I’ve learned that for me, being able to keep a foot in both is a delicate balance – because while they are not mutually exclusive, guiding my heart though the swinging pendulum from excess to lack of access is sometimes challenging.

(I also massively side-eye the BAFTAs bit. Why would any UK-based jewellery company offer a then little-known American tv actress the chance to be their ambassador at an event celebrating t UK film industry?)

What a terrible writer she is, excruciating to read.

I think she is unique in that I cannot think of anyone, ever, who comes across as insincere as she does.

Mylovelygreendress · 11/10/2024 12:10

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 12:02

@Serenster

Oh dear God! That is nauseating stuff. If I had ever written that, my friends and family would have laughed me out of the house. And I think that's part of M's problem. She's grown up in, and has chosen to inhabit, a world where people a) spout rubbish and b) mutually prop up each other's pretensions. No-one seems to have told her the awful truth...

I think this is the issue now for Meghan. She didn't like being in the RF, partly because their were horrid courtiers and officials who sometimes told her 'No', or who gave her advice she didn't like. But they were experienced and knew their jobs. Now she and H have fled to freedom, they employ staff who are probably absolutely terrified to give them the right advice, to tell them the truth about their daft, half-baked ideas and their ridiculous posturing and pretentiousness. If they give them the advice they actually need to hear, they'll lose their job - or their lives will be made hell by tantruming Meghan.

I still maintain that Catherine being senior to her was simply something she could not tolerate. She could fire staff but not a member of the RF !

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 12:19

@Mylovelygreendress

Definitely. We know from her blog about W and C's wedding that she had Catherine in her sights - even before she met Harry. She was and is absolutely consumed by jealousy for Catherine and couldn't cope with having to acknowledge her seniority.

There's also video evidence of her trying to flirt with William - gazing at him adoringly (weird!). I'm not saying she seriously intended to break up their marriage, but I bet she wanted to claim him as a conquest - to say 'He definitely fancied me!'

She is a dangerous, damaged person - but her antics are fascinating.

TheMarkOfTheBeastIsLol · 11/10/2024 12:30

It was always about the billing.

Always.

I have always maintained that there would have been zero bother if Harry had popped out first.

AnnieMcFanny · 11/10/2024 13:07

I’m not really into the intrigue surrounding this circus and it’s mostly because of the culture where I live and that our newspapers are about 5 pages long and they really don’t cover celebrity. But this particular thread did get my attention as I was in the UK when it started.

I did wonder if the organiser of the tennis event and the dinner/gala said something like ok Meg, you can have star billing at the tennis and Lizzy C will be on the top table at the gala.

She wouldn’t be the first friend caught in the middle of two pals who don’t get on together.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/10/2024 13:48

Apparently, she wanted her trip to Uvalde included in the Netflix show. I haven’t watched it so I don’t know if it was

If you mean the 6 part documentary, @Bunnylake, then no it wasn't included - which honestly surprised me. Maybe it wasn't easy to edit the photographers she was so keen to liaise with out of the shot

Edited to add I see others have already answered, @Firealarm1414, but times Meghan's really been on the "top table" recently were the silly Nigeria and Colombia stunts - but as I said they'd have played a major part in organizing those, whereas with A lister US events it seems they get little say these days

BunnyLake · 11/10/2024 14:08

You mean if she was in line to be Queen? Yes, I very much doubt she’d have gone back to Hollywood if that crown was in her future. Trouble is she’d have wanted to be Queen regnant not consort, so she probably would still have been barging past Harry 😁

This was in response to TheMarkofTheBeast

WitchesCauldron · 11/10/2024 14:09

Triplesec · 06/10/2024 23:26

This dress is definitely marmite for many. I’ve always liked it and its versatile functionality. I think the only aspect to it that I don’t really ‘get’ is the tucking around the nipple area. Of the two ways to wear the dress the latest red carpet outing for a charity fundraiser is definitely my preferred option. Red suits Meghan.

Call me old fashioned but I think it's tarty.

upinaballoon · 11/10/2024 14:11

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 12:06

I've thought the same, Pretty. She clearly has a major issue with any form of calm concentration. And I suspect they surround themselves with 'Yes-people'.

I recommend Dr Raj Persaud on YouTube talking about why H's therapy doesn't seem to have worked, and he basically says the same thing. No-one will tell Harry the uncomfortable truths because H doesn't want to hear them and will just ditch the therapist and move on to someone who's prepared to make him feel good about himself, and not try to make him face any kind of responsibility for what has happened in his life.

Yes, my experience with depression and counselling is that the person being treated has to WANT to get better and is prepared to be challenged by the counsellor. In a book about depression there was a warning that the depressed person needs to look at himself/herself and ask if he/she is being manipulative. I'm not suggesting that either of them is what I would call clinically depressed but it would appear that both have sought help.

Cloud9isnowclosed · 11/10/2024 14:11

Mylovelygreendress · 10/10/2024 19:53

Yes , a few prolific posters disappeared overnight !

Some are still around and posting

AnnieMcFanny · 11/10/2024 14:13

Kelly wasnt the organiser of this event...

So who was? Because the article I read said she was.

BunnyLake · 11/10/2024 14:18

Uricon2 · 11/10/2024 11:30

I very much see a lack of sincerity in Meghan. I think she thought she could dress nicely, rock up, have some pics taken, emote a bit in a word salad way and she would be automatically hailed as The New Diana.

It's my feeling that she knew a great deal about the popular perception of Diana after her death but very little about the background that made her loved, the transformation from Shy Di into a style icon, the at the time unusual choice of causes like HIV/AIDS and landmines and most importantly the fact that she projected genuine warmth and interest. She also didn't use people as props. In fairness, there are other Royals who also show that (Anne, Sophie, Edward for eg) but their work isn't as high profile and their image as glittery as Meghan seemed to want.

She's also ignoring that Diana had her fair share of very negative press and general criticism. Far from a perfect saint of course but she also showed an ability to move on from her mistakes and try to do better/different and I've seen no sign Meghan is capable of that, or to grasp that genuine admiration is won, not awarded.

No matter how much H&M try to convince people of Meghan’s similarities to Diana, absolutely no one with half a brain cell has fallen for it. They have absolutely nothing in common about their personalities whatsoever. Diana had her faults but she was real, she didn’t talk in word salad, her charitable works (and speeches) didn’t reek of
me, myself and I.

People don’t mind if you have flaws, they do mind if you reek of fakeness.

theemptinessmachine · 11/10/2024 16:32

Lizzy C is out in LA touting for work. I was surprised to hear about her at the event. Agents?

wordler · 11/10/2024 17:23

CoffeeCantata · 11/10/2024 09:57

@Firealarm1414

It's a real study in...I suppose you would say, narcissism, isn't it?

Yes, terrible to watch that video of her ignoring that poor woman telling her story of HIV and bereavement. All with her thoughts on the best angle for the optics! also, at Invictus, she homes in on a young lad in a wheelchair, crouches behind him, puts on that huge smile for a photo, then moves off without acknowledging either the boy or his family. Horrible to watch - utterly shameless and crass.

Anyone on these threads will know I don't like Meghan, but even I have to admit that, having watched her for so long, I really think there's an element of her not being able to help herself - it's a psychological issue. I honestly don't think she's capable of being genuine, or non-self-interested. She doesn't have the capacity. Is it her upbringing on the film-sets of Hollywood - watching actors gush over each other and then bitch afterwards, big up their egos, manipulate people and have tantrums when things didn't go their way etc etc?

She has learned the right things to say - that she cares, that charity work 'feeds her soul' (a quote I remember from early on) and all the other virtue-signalling tripe we hear in the word-salad speeches. But I really thing she doesn't get that you actually have to walk the walk too - and she seems incapable of doing that. She's a really problematic character - absolute poison, it seems, to anyone who gets into a relationship with her - and utterly useless to the organisations she claims to support so earnestly.

I cannot take my eyes of the trajectory of Meghan - it's riveting.

So she was 37/8 when she met Harry and had been trying to break into the Hollywood celebrity world from almost immediately after university so say at least 15 years of the Hollywood hustle. That world is brutal for women - even if you have a lot of acting talent you have to play ‘the game’ - the cattle market of auditions, the predators like Weinstein exploiting their power, being ‘on’ all the time to network at events.

For actresses like Meghan who are beautiful but not stand out striking, and okayish actors but not into the craft of acting and doing theatre and breakout Indy stuff, it’s something like The Hunger Games.

It teaches you three big things:

All other beautiful women in your peer group are rivals who you have to beat to get ahead.

You are among hundreds of beautiful women on those red carpets trying to get your photos into the press so you have to be ‘on’ - find your lighting and your pose and the camera instantly as you have only about 30 seconds to get even a glimmer of a chance of being used in a news story or a photo spread.

Everything is transactional - but especially you and your body. You are going to have to do a lot of stuff you don’t want to do to have a chance of success.

So imagine slogging away in that world for 15 years and suddenly the whole world wants to take your picture, crowds turn up to see you, you are world famous beyond the world of celebrity.

I think it kinda broke her mind - it was 30 odd years of dreams and 15 years of hard hustle and now it was beyond her wildest imaginings - people were curtseying to her.

I don’t think she mentally could make the transition fast enough and it sent her over the edge.

I’d have been interested to see if things would have spiralled so badly if Harry had listened to William and taken even just an extra year of dating and introducing her slowly to the world he lived in before getting engaged.

She definitely never got out of the habit of ‘actress posing’ at events with photographers - I think it was muscle memory - you pose constantly for ten minutes and the the photographer might use one good shot. But the royals get the press coverage anyway and the video footage gets used a lot as well - which is why it looks bizarre to see someone concentrating on doing poses while they are supposed to be talking to someone on an engagement.

Perfect example of this is the coat flicking video compilation while she was very pregnant. She’s constantly flicking the coat - ONLY on the side of the photographers - to the side so that the still images will show the photogenic bump and not a bulky coat.

And because she’s doing it while she’s supposed to be listening to whoever they are meeting at an engagement she looks completely insane.

Uricon2 · 11/10/2024 17:27

Great post @wordler

wordler · 11/10/2024 17:34

I’ve been trying a while to work out why it imploded so quickly when she was managing to keep it together enough to manage the celebrity system without having a meltdown.

So it’s either she was always a huge ego but never had the power position to unleash it, or for someone chasing fame more than anything else she got too much too quickly of her heart’s desire and she couldn’t cope.

A bit like lottery winners who blow through all their millions in a couple of years and end up worse than they were before.

wordler · 11/10/2024 17:39

I think it’s also why Kate has managed better than others - she had a long time to get used to everything and she has very close siblings and parents who keep her grounded and I’m sure give her a good ego check if she started acting ‘like a Princess’ with them.

Uricon2 · 11/10/2024 17:52

I really think you're on to something @wordler. Add in Harry completely failing to prepare her, probably telling her all kinds of toot he thought she wanted to hear because he was desperate not to lose her and it would be a perfect storm

Rhaidimiddim · 11/10/2024 17:53

wordler · 11/10/2024 17:34

I’ve been trying a while to work out why it imploded so quickly when she was managing to keep it together enough to manage the celebrity system without having a meltdown.

So it’s either she was always a huge ego but never had the power position to unleash it, or for someone chasing fame more than anything else she got too much too quickly of her heart’s desire and she couldn’t cope.

A bit like lottery winners who blow through all their millions in a couple of years and end up worse than they were before.

Edited

Plus, stupid. Or at least not as smart as she thinks.

It all went to her head, and found plenty of space there.

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