Meg’s era of joy

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Showing up to support her very close friend who lost her child and also the children’s hospital at an evening gala. What a friend to have in the Duchess. Meghan was glowing, fresh faced, wore minimal makeup, was confidant and smiley. She was well spoken and supportive of the evening fund raiser when interviewed. Show Up, Do Good. Yes, she always does. Loved her look too.

With all this talk of the "top table" it occurs to me that we no longer see Meghan at the top of anything unless it's an event that she's organised/controlled

Funny that ... it's almost as if the Hollywood movers and shakers don't feel she counts for much any more

I understood that Suits was coming to an end anyway ? Did M have anything else lined up that she had to give up ?

Yes, she was being written out at the end of series 7, and the whole show did not go on much beyond that

There has never been any suggestion that she had other acting work lined up, even though the late HMQ had said that continuing to act would be OK

However, Meghan finds herself starved of the oxygen of publicity and self promotion, while her husband is having what seems to be a successful trip abroad.

Plus her hated SiL is photographed hugging - HUGGING (stealing Meghan's move, the cheek!) - a child suffering from cancer.

That's my thoughts too. She's imposed herself on the event and not taken no for an answer.

It all comes across as so weird, Meghan in front of that photowall where she was absolutely hyper, she looked like she was trying to act out the young starlet moves, something she probably dreamed of 20 years previously, everything she did was so exaggerated and unnatural.

I agree with posters who believe it was very last minute, she probably did stay for a short time, and left early, which is what Liz Cundy said,

There is no way she was on her friends table, she was sat at a table with Jimmy Kimmel, who has absolutely roasted Harry and Meghan on many occasions for years now, joking about their quest for celebrity at the same time as moaning about privacy. He did a really rude parody of spare on his show, he even made fun of them when he was hosting the Oscars. Meghan was not joining that table, which is why I do think she came at the last minute, walked the photo wall for the photo opportunities, had a few words with some people there and left quickly.

The thing about friends / employees commenting on anything to do with Meghan and Harry is that it is obvious they cannot / will not speak about Meghan and Harry unless they are authorised and allowed to do so by Meghan and I wouldn't be surprised if every word of those comments has gone through a full PR / Legal approval, probably some bits rewritten, before they can publish anything.

Anyway, it just goes to prove how shallow the loyalties are in that group when your best friend is also friends with someone who has slated you publicly for years.

Genuine question...when was she ever at the 'top table'? I've literally never seen them actually sit down at an event with people like how a listers do at the oscars or golden globes for example. They come to do their speech, or in this case, photo op, and they leave. That doesn't endear yourself to people. The chickens are coming home to roost. I mean you can't just treat people like shit and then expect to be embraced when you need them. The phrase 'be nice to people on the way up because you'll see them on the way down' comes to mind. Lizzie cundy being the prime example. Of course, Harry doesn't have to worry about this, being an actual prince. He will always be welcomed, despite not really having anything of substance to offer. Pretty sure Meghan might be regretting some things right now, but maybe not.

Edited to say, I'm talking about their engagements after the royal family. Obviously for some events like the royal jubilee, trooping the colour etc, they had no choice but to stay, and didn't they seem to hate every minute of it lol Harry seemed to get on with that stuff just fine before he met Meghan. Weird

She was at the top table in Columbia , the one where the tables looked as if they had been dragged from the staff canteen . Harry was pushed to another table with the translator.

Obviously for some events like the royal jubilee, trooping the colour etc, they had no choice but to stay, and didn't they seem to hate every minute of it lol Harry seemed to get on with that stuff just fine before he met Meghan. Weird.

This is what fascinates me! Over the years of observing Meghan's behaviour, it strikes me that the common factor is lack of ability to be calm, still, or to just concentrate quietly. Or, in more active social situations, to blend in with others and allow them equal prominence, or an equal share of the limelight/attention.

She is utterly lost when she is not the focus of everyone's attention - not an endearing trait, but I've come to believe that she just cannot help herself. I agree that there may have been many reasons for her not taking her place at a table at the hospital event, but I bet sitting with others and making conversation for a couple of hours, and possibly listening to speeches MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE is probably beyond her.

I knew someone like this once, and she was absolutely exhausting company and totally unrewarding as a friend. She had no interest in anyone but herself, no self-awareness (would talk incessantly about herself, but then moan about anyone who did the same, even for a few minutes, as being boring (with no sense of irony). She could not cope with being alone and if you went anywhere with her, she'd chatter mindlessly throughout - films, theatre, concerts - she just could not focus or listen or concentrate. I bet Meghan's like that - and I confess she fascinates me as a psychological study. Just look at her on the balcony that time, when Harry had to tell her to look ahead and shut the hell up not once, but twice!!! And even then, she had a defiant look.

@CoffeeCantata I agree with every word in that post.

Yes it's so weird. The absolute privilege of being on the balcony of Buckingham palace/in westminster abbey for royal ceremonies/the myriad of other historical events which they were privy to, left Meghan disinterested. Most people have been bored during events but you act interested. For an actress, meghan is awful at pretending she cares. The way she treated the women in south africa was absolutely disgusting. If a woman pouring her heart out about being a child bride, then being infected with hiv and losing her child doesn't affect you, there's something wrong with you. Let alone to sit on the floor, turn your back on her and practically roll your eyes. Its just beyond the pale of rude and despicable. Who gets to the age of 40 with kids and still can't muster up enough empathy or at least pretend? Its beyond bizarre. Can any of the Meghan fans on here defend or explain why she acted like that?

@CoffeeCantata yes its fascinating to watch.

That’s very interesting observation. I too know someone like that and try to avoid being in her company as it is utterly exhausting and mind numbingly boring .
I see there is to be another State Banquet for a visiting dignitary and it crossed my mind that Meghan would really have struggled with such an occasion ; walking behind Camilla and Catherine , paired up with some minor person and expected to make small talk with other guests . I simply can’t imagine it at all.

She is just so weird.
There's completely using people which lots of people seem to do and think nothing of it.

But that interview with the South African women is a different level, was she just not listening to what the lady was saying, could she not understand the accent so didn't really hear what was said, or is their something else going on, ie some sort of ND lacking in empathy?

If she was an normal employee, behaving like that in a meeting she would be removed from the business ASAP.

@Firealarm1414

It's a real study in...I suppose you would say, narcissism, isn't it?

Yes, terrible to watch that video of her ignoring that poor woman telling her story of HIV and bereavement. All with her thoughts on the best angle for the optics! also, at Invictus, she homes in on a young lad in a wheelchair, crouches behind him, puts on that huge smile for a photo, then moves off without acknowledging either the boy or his family. Horrible to watch - utterly shameless and crass.

Anyone on these threads will know I don't like Meghan, but even I have to admit that, having watched her for so long, I really think there's an element of her not being able to help herself - it's a psychological issue. I honestly don't think she's capable of being genuine, or non-self-interested. She doesn't have the capacity. Is it her upbringing on the film-sets of Hollywood - watching actors gush over each other and then bitch afterwards, big up their egos, manipulate people and have tantrums when things didn't go their way etc etc?

She has learned the right things to say - that she cares, that charity work 'feeds her soul' (a quote I remember from early on) and all the other virtue-signalling tripe we hear in the word-salad speeches. But I really thing she doesn't get that you actually have to walk the walk too - and she seems incapable of doing that. She's a really problematic character - absolute poison, it seems, to anyone who gets into a relationship with her - and utterly useless to the organisations she claims to support so earnestly.

I cannot take my eyes of the trajectory of Meghan - it's riveting.

It is fascinating to watch. And that she has a hard core of such passionate defenders who perceive her as sincere. It's like we're commenting on completely different people/events.

I wonder if being reared by two divorced parents added something to all of this mix. There is some story about her mother telling her how special she was and they wouldn't be the first family to have two parents who were trying to outdo each other. There's also this mystery about where her mother was for a certain amount of years too.

I think it was after the horrific behaviour in south africa that she was 'removed' from the royal family. As in, harry was told that she's not fit for the job and to do something about it, which is completely understandable. Then they went all scorched earth in revenge for anyone daring to challenge Meghan, despite the fact that they all the resources in the world at their disposal to help her. If she was that calculating she wouldn't be so shortsighted, but she just can't help herself. Seems to me that its a pathological need to be the centre of attention. See the pregnancy announcement at eugenies wedding and the constant need to one up any royal family announcement with some nonsense or other. Its really not normal.

That would make perfect sense.

I don't follow the Royals that closely but at the moment I'm finding these two fascinating. Their words and actions just don't match.

Haven't read the full thread but maybe MM left because Lizzie was there. Didn't she do something similar in the South African Market?

I cannot take my eyes of the trajectory of Meghan - it's riveting.

I know what you mean but I think it's less of a trajectory and more of a failure to launch 😁

I think you’re right about it being a pathological need. To any non-pathological person her behaviour, her desperate need for attention, it just doesn’t make sense. She keeps doing it time after time even though she’s been made aware (one would imagine) that it puts people off.

Apparently, she wanted her trip to Uvalde included in the Netflix show. I haven’t watched it so I don’t know if it was. She was told no as it wasn’t appropriate but she insisted she thought it would make a good inclusion, which makes me wonder if that’s why she did it in the first place. Maybe someone can say if it was in the doc or not.

She really has no self awareness, extraordinary in someone her age who wasn’t cosseted in castles.

Yet the organiser saw fit to single Meghan out for praise despite her not being at the top table - Kelly wasnt the organiser of this event...

She has learned the right things to say - that she cares, that charity work 'feeds her soul' (a quote I remember from early on) and all the other virtue-signalling tripe we hear in the word-salad speeches. But I really thing she doesn't get that you actually have to walk the walk too - and she seems incapable of doing that.

This is what Meghan wrote on the Tig in 2016, about a week before her relationship with Harry was made public (I know, what a coincidence! Just before the world finds out who she is she’s out there burnishing her philanthropic credentials…) . I think the pendulum has swung quite a bit further to the excess side now she’s picked the Hollywood life than she she wanted to suggest at that stage

It was just last year that I was in the van heading back from Gihembe refugee camp in Rwanda. I was in the country as an advocate for UN Women…. Driving back on the dusty roads that day, now back on the grid of tech and Hollywood, I received an email from my managers with a request for me to attend the BAFTAs. I had never been and had always romanticized the idea of it – and per the email, a high end jewelry company was going to fly me in, get me dolled up in the fanciest of gowns, and I would travel straight from Kigali to Heathrow, to the makeup chair, and immediately onto the red carpet.

My brain, heart, spirit couldn’t shift gears that quickly – from the purpose-driven work I had been doing all week in Rwanda, to the glitz and glamour of an award show – plus the pomp and circumstance that comes with it. “No,” my heart said. And it wasn’t a soft whisper to myself; it was a lion’s roar. … My gut said, “No.” While my two worlds can coexist, I’ve learned that for me, being able to keep a foot in both is a delicate balance – because while they are not mutually exclusive, guiding my heart though the swinging pendulum from excess to lack of access is sometimes challenging.

(I also massively side-eye the BAFTAs bit. Why would any UK-based jewellery company offer a then little-known American tv actress the chance to be their ambassador at an event celebrating t UK film industry?)

I very much see a lack of sincerity in Meghan. I think she thought she could dress nicely, rock up, have some pics taken, emote a bit in a word salad way and she would be automatically hailed as The New Diana.

It's my feeling that she knew a great deal about the popular perception of Diana after her death but very little about the background that made her loved, the transformation from Shy Di into a style icon, the at the time unusual choice of causes like HIV/AIDS and landmines and most importantly the fact that she projected genuine warmth and interest. She also didn't use people as props. In fairness, there are other Royals who also show that (Anne, Sophie, Edward for eg) but their work isn't as high profile and their image as glittery as Meghan seemed to want.

She's also ignoring that Diana had her fair share of very negative press and general criticism. Far from a perfect saint of course but she also showed an ability to move on from her mistakes and try to do better/different and I've seen no sign Meghan is capable of that, or to grasp that genuine admiration is won, not awarded.