Harry on Tour

[Mylovelygreendress]

Just looking at the photos of Harry in Lesotho . Don’t know when I last saw him looking so relaxed and happy .
Nice to see.

, “The Spencer gene is very, very strong. I actually really, genuinely thought at the beginning of my relationship [with Meghan] that, should this go the distance and we have kids, that there’s no way the ginger gene will stand up to my wife’s genes — but I was wrong!”

Is he actually saying that he wondered what his children would look like if he and Meghan had them?

Was he being racist ? 😳

Saw this online.

Well idly speculating on the baby's potential colour was deemed to be racist by H & M... is that not a "normal thing to do" too?

@theemptinessmachine Goodness, did he really not recognize the hypocrisy of his comment?

It’s astounding to be THAT oblivious.

I’ve always thought that this talk about what the baby was going to look like was one conversation that as Harry said on Oprah happened right at the start of their relationship before they were married and he was very much part of the conversation/ possibly even instigated it - and then came back to Meghan and repeated it as a funny anecdote. Meghan then either genuinely felt it was offensive and told him off and educated him on unconscious bias and microaggressions, or she used it as a way to create division.

@wordler your last sentence there has nailed it. He's repeated it and she's used it to create division.

I think it's 100% normal to be curious as to who babies 👶 will look like and what features they'll have from what parent, eye, hair, and if mixed race skin colour.

It is also really easy as a white person with no experience of the kind of constant micro aggressions experience by people of colour, to not realise that some things we we say and do, which sound innocent or simply curious to us, is offensive.

That’s a very common experience - BUT - there’s a big difference between doing something accidentally or thoughtlessly before you know better to deliberately deciding to treat a baby differently because of the potentially different colour of its skin.

And that is what Meghan implied heavily to Oprah.

While I agree with your edit point they could just make changes from set date - and do agree the change in primogeniture is new I'm suggesting they'll just fudge it going forward.

Princess Margaret husband was created Earl of Snowdon and Viscount Linley after marriage. As I understand Princess Ann and her husband were offered similar and turned it down. Her daughter Zara and son Peter are still known to grandchildren of the previous monarch.

So they'll likely offer some sort of title post marriage to Charlotte and she can either turn that down like Princess Ann or accept like Princess Margaret.

Louis will likely be offered a royal dukedom on marriage - it's usual practice - and can then follow his Uncle Edwards example and use lesser titles for kids.

Prince Philip was given Duke of Edinburgh title - Camilla didn't use Princess of Wales title but lesser one Duchess of Cornwall - giving new titles and using lesser ones if they choice are establish practises.

If Charlotte turns down titles for spouse and kids might look bit odd they are further up succession than Louis kids possibly using lesser titles - but expect press and thus public would just accept it with time - public would like Zara and Philip know who they were.

So I think they'll just announce to press titles of address or create new titles as they deem necessary.

I do wonder if they'll restrict royal dukedoms to that generation like Duke of Edinburgh with Prince Edward. Current practice is they stay Royal till they pass beyond the grandsons of a monarch.and then become a normal dukedom to pass down

So when they get a King with daughter as direct heir - upon marriage they'll likely just create a royal title/dukedom to pass down so the kids have titles so it won't be ever Miss and Mr.

Twerps like Harry are the reason normal people have to do unconscious bias training.

What I found difficult to understand about that comment is that he said it on Stephen Colbert's Late Show in January last year. Surely he should have realised by then how that could be interpreted?

What stands out in that article to me is just how aware Meghan is of the camera. She has good stage presence in every photo and the eye is drawn to her because of it. Harry otoh is not, which is why we get side profiles. Even when the photo is of the back of the 4 of them, we still see her profile.

Harry says that their ' three dogs aren't quite house trained '.
Are they shitting all over the house?
Monteshito indeed.

Seems to follow the Sussexes pattern, though - start something and not finish it, as in start dog training then abandon it part way through. Like Spotify, Netflix etc and seemingly ARO 😆

That's disgusting.
Wonder how many cleaners they've had through the revolving door. Along with all the other staff who've come and gone.

For someone who's from an animal orientated family, he's clueless.

Wonder how many cleaners they've had through the revolving door

Hopefully, none of them slipped on any dog mess in the way out 😂

😁

Why aren't the mutts housetrained though?

It's not like either of the hour a week Harolds have much else to do 🤔

Weren’t the corgis at BP known for peeing everywhere

I think they might have been.

They were certainly known for nipping the lackeys 😬

Surely not? All those £££ carpets and things?

Surely HMQ would have had someone get them trained.
Maybe when they were puppies but I can't imagine her letting them pee everywhere.

https://www.newsweek.com/trained-queen-corgis-pleased-going-prince-andrew-1744916

Sounds like when she did have issue like pack fighting she sought expert advice and then implemented it.

That's really sweet.
I'm sure those dogs were spoilt rotten. Wonder what secrets 🙊 they'd have been told.

Wordler, totally! That is what I have been saying on here for a long time, since the day after the Oprah show. It seemed obvious what had happened.

Meghan then either genuinely felt it was offensive and told him off and educated him on unconscious bias and microaggressions, or she used it as a way to create division.

Could well be both. It seems clear that from the timing this conversation (as per PH and not in MM earshot) was from before they were married.

But in the OW interview it is weaponised to IMHO to be deliberately misleading by MM to be specifically about Archies skin colour and how Archie wouldnt then be titled Prince nor be provided with security directly because of the colour of his skin.

That's precisely what she was suggesting @Glooop, that Archie was being treated less well than he would have been with unmixed heritage.