Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

Of course in addition the Duke of Windsor forged connections with other governments and some British politicians at the time. The parallels are remarkable.

Even the work William might eventually do is hardly taxing and stressful work tbh. By the time he actually does any work his kids will be grown up and he will distribute.it between them. Now the Queen on the other hand was someone who worked hard, much like Anne does.

How do you know what William does on a day to day basis? His visits on the court circular aren’t the only thing he does you know?
I would argue a one hour working week for Archewell is more work shy…….!

Why would what job William eventually does be less hard than that of the late Queen? She worked like that because she was the monarch. She did things only the monarch can do. So when William is monarch,
he will do the same things. Like his father does as King. Did you want William to do bis grandmother’s job while she was still alive?

@Spectre8, I expect William will be King within the next 5 years, the lack of positive comments about the Kings health makes me think it's just not good.

Williams kids will still be young.

I wonder how Harry will feel if William does become king while still in his forties, with a wife recovering from cancer and three young children and very few working royals left to share the duties.
While he skulks in his McMansion listening to his wife bulling the cleaners and nannies.

@Alectoishome Who knows.
He must be feeling pretty rubbish about everything that's happened since he left. Both Grandparents dying, then his Dad and SIL both having cancer.

A life lesson on how life can throw you some bad luck. And he must have missed the family support dealing with all that.

The last I heard (Royal website, earlier this month) is that the (shortened) tour to Australia and Samoa (18-26 October) is going ahead.

Which suggests that the King's health is stable.

We haven't seen much of him, nor of Queen Camilla, because of the traditional long summer break to Balmoral. Parliament resumes on 7 October

Naive to think he works hard, it's just bs to make people believe they do and keep the RF going. Harry is a non working royal now so he no longer has a duty to work as a royal. So if he has money to cover his expenses, much like most people who can afford to not work.

He managed to have time away from the spotlight until he was mid 30s. The RF didn't desperately need him, Granny was still alive, and the 4 in the generation above him, plus some of HMQs cousins, were all working Royals.
That luxury just won't happen for Williams kids if Harry isn't there.

I expect it either won't happen and kids start in their 20s or they'll manage it somehow without Harry who is unpopular and frankly not really perceived as good fit for RF anymore - long term PR might work with Harry but not sure 5 years would be enough time to recover his reputation.

Where do you think the majority of Harry’s money came from?! Including his recent inheritance.
If anyone is naive it’s those who peddle the BS of Harry and Meghan are perfect and the Royal Family are all terrible/work shy/whatever. It’s propaganda. You have no idea.

The Duke of Windsor

Missed this bit

Can't help but feel a bit sorry for the Duke of Windsor there @forevernumb
I see the parallels with Harry but there are more differences than parallels.

Remember H never really wanted to leave he wanted to be a part-timer. Their business model was obviously based on being able to trade of the royal connections.
Which William and Charles were having none off.

If they split the Royal PR machine along with some hardwork from him could turn his image round (and point the finger 👉 at Meghan)

I haven't seen anyone peddling that they are perfect? Who has actually said that?

And so what if he received an inheritance? Lots of people do. If that is enough to mean he doesn't need to work lots or at all so what? He is a non working royal with no duties unlike William.

I feel sorry for him. He’s like Andrew, he is spare. That’s the hard truth. I don’t like his navel-gazing word salads, nor his inappropriate choice for a wife.

But,

Growing up with all that pomp and complete hogwash of finery must make it very difficult to tread a more normal path if that’s what you think you want.

He’s tried in California but it looks like too much of a jump for him.

Hollywood royalty he is not and never will be.

He must carve out a new persona and role in life, having trashed his roots.

It’s a very tough path to follow, especially under such scrutiny. You’re only famous for your genetic heritage, not for actually producing anything of any value or worth.

It’s all the wrong way round. What a poisoned chalice. I wouldn’t swap positions with him for all the money in the world.

Add to that, he’s not very bright. You can see how it could be one wrong move after another. Which it has been. Poor man. Horrible life. Money cannot buy you happiness.

He is a non working royal with no duties unlike William.
And thank heavens for that.

It must be very painful for his family to have not been able to deter him from making poor choice after poor choice. The person you choose to marry is surely one of the most life defining choices.

I have a low opinion of Harry, but even I think he's a better calibre than Andrew. Harry is a spoilt man-child and sadly brainless despite the best education money can buy.
But Andrew is a Class A wrong 'un.

I dont think that the RF need the volume of boots on the ground as in past generations to achieve HMTQ mission of 'having to be seen to be believed' due to SM.

Imagine growing up knowing you are just a spare. There is no hiding away from that. Doesn't matter how best anyone would try to make it feel better it wouldn't.

So knowing your a spare and then saying hey can I do half in and out like this and being told no. Just another kick in the teeth.

So I agree with you being a spare is a poisoned chalice.

Let's see how it's handled this time round with the spares.

Growing up with all that pomp and complete hogwash of finery

But that's only a very small part of royal life. The Queen's routine, day to day working life was her red boxes and seeing ministers. When she wasn't doing that, her favourite pastimes were going for a ride, or walking her dogs, dressed in wellies and a headscarf. Harry - or any other member of the RF - wouldn't grow up thinking it meant wearing a crown every day.

He managed to have time away from the spotlight until he was mid 30s. The RF didn't desperately need him, Granny was still alive, and the 4 in the generation above him, plus some of HMQs cousins, were all working Royals
That luxury just won't happen for Williams kids if Harry isn't there

True, but then that might depend on how W&K view the role when it's their turn to call the shots
The RF don't have to cut ribbons, hold meetings and badger politicians with their ideas, crackpot or otherwise, and as we saw during covid the sky doesn't fall if we see much less of them. Granted covid was exceptional and the institution needs some kind of attention to prop it up, but I see no reason why it couldn't be managed with far fewer of them

That underestimates the enormous impact on your mental health of being watched by thousands, millions, on a very regular basis.

even 2.2 billion people watched his wedding to Megan.

Thats around a third of the global population. You cannot know what it’s like to live under that level of scrutiny and pressure.

No they aren’t out in front or crowds every day, but there’s very few people that walk their path.

I wouldn’t dare to judge them myself.

And they have no real reason to be at that level of fame other than through birth.

Its not like Taylor Swift who has worked her way up to global celebrity and has a platform, a skill, a talent, that she did it all from.

These people just exist. It’s quite a mind fuck I imagine, being royal.

While I don't think they need the dozen or so working Royals they had in the past. HMQ maybe had more at some points.

However I think being down to 2 under 60 is a bit lean.
They needed the York ladies to do one of the garden parties. Apparently they like a minimum of 3 Royals to make sure every guest speaks to someone.