Continuing HR article, Netflix

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See all these wise posters, lots of what we have said has been ‘confirmed’ by other sources

article in the DM:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13874743/Harry-Meghan-Hollywood-turns-Sussexes-ALISON-BOSHOFF-venom-schadenfreude.html

https://archive.ph/xgEdv

One senior Hollywood publicist tells me: 'First of all, everyone industry-wide, EVERYONE reads The Hollywood Reporter. It's really striking that WME did not stop this running.'
She adds: 'WME normally – you would think – would have been threatening and denying access to other stars. Was this done here?

Thats exactly what we all thought! it’s strange how they are letting this stuff out.

As we have all seen in recent days, the dark art of covering up and killing stories- look at Al Fayed and what he got away with. So WME have done nothing???

Also, Harry attending an event in his own because Meghan is sick. No. This is part of separating their ‘brands’- I doubt she will attend any future events like these with Harry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13875773/sick-meghan-markle-prince-harry-kevin-costner-charity-event.html

Seems like the wheels are falling off to me!

Ouch! This will be a tough read for Harry. The first negative article I’ve seen on him in a week or so. It’s mainly repeating what has been said on SM but is also questioning why we are seeing more of him rather than them.

radaronline.com/p/prince-harry-trolled-haunted-house-screaming-meghan-markle/

I'm quite fascinated that he's going to Africa without her. She just LOVES to play Lady Bountiful on charity trips, changing her clothes six times a day to ensure maximum press coverage, hugging orphans and clapping along to local school children dancing for her. What is going on?

Maybe it's because this time it’s a genuine visit to a charity and there is no Nigerian military leader or Columbian VP who is looking to impress their public and so the opportunities for photos, frock changes and word saladry will be limited 🤷‍♀️

Also, separating their work lives

Hilarious when they made such a big deal about being together all the time.

Meghan said: That’s me and Harry. We’re like salt and pepper. We always move together.

and also Harry, when he made the snide remark how his family can’t work together in their docu, but H&M are obviously different because they can….until they couldn’t that is

and also Harry, making out he’s trying to be the dad he never had….except he is forever if galavanting around the world. He leaves those kids (needlessly) 10 days out the month minimum! Why? He doesn’t need to. He ain’t getting paid for this UN speech or Fallon talk show skit. He isn’t required by anyone to do anything. He is already a millionaire. He isn’t a public servant.
Those children are going to be very angry when they realise he chose to be away from them so frequently. To the point where, meghan looks like the better parent.

@cheezncrackers I don't think people in the UK would ever be eating out of his hand. He is THE worst advertisement for the RF - well him and Andrew.

I agree this is somehow different to a brand separation though,, which most agreed looked like was happening with his polo show and her cooking show, her 'investing' in companies etc.

However, this recent blitz of Harry alone, could be nothing more than a drive at image rehabilitation for Harry, the optics of him for the past few years has been utterly pathetic, he has been totally emasculated and humiliated on their joint ventures,. He is the one who had the real and unique prestige which has now been dissipated, where he is reduced to nothing more than a bonehead and a stooge for his wife. . Their advisors could be trying to them to get back to the basics of why, they as a couple, were popular in the first place. Harry leading the PR cavalry on the back of his Royal Status.

On the other hand, there have be rumours for a while they are living separately.

I agree, but he's made it very clear that he thinks he had a right to tell his story and that now he's got it all off his princely chest we should all forgive, forget and go right back to loving him again and forgiving all his princely foibles. It's not just the British public - he'd like Dad and Willy to get over themselves and welcome him back with open arms too.

On the other hand, there have be rumours for a while they are living separately.

Indeed, there have ...

To be fair the events he has been to the past week have all already been scheduled and he is just a participant. Same with WellChild - its the same time each year. Also Lesotho/Johannesburg that date would have been confirmed up to a year ago for logistical reasons.

Seems everyone was convening in NYC last week due to UN meeting, CGI etc even Starmer and Zelensky.

Whats different is not having MM gurning in the audience - she did this at his last UN / Mandela talk - clutching his knee etc.

Maybe they are learning that both of thm spending so much time away from thie very young children is having an impact. They have both been away without them quite a lot this year.

Who knows she may well rock up to Lesotho/Johannesburg.

Spot on except that now he has got everything off his chest and is feeling great and expects RF to reconcile with him now he is ready - he has also stipulated tht he requires an apology from PW before he can forgive him.

He has zero understanding or care for how his cruel words and actions over the last 5 years have impacted others.

The brand separation is interesting. I agree that Harry is looking to rehab his image. Whatever the fans might say, I think Harry does care about his UK image - he is a member of the British RF and was the 2nd most popular royal after QEII. He absolutely leant into that. Even though he has no understanding in the history of the RF, he likely feels deeply rooted here in a way he probably can't explain.

Living in California is, I would imagine, an amazing experience. There is a reason Americans are the biggest consumers of DNA analysis, they have a need to feel rooted somewhere. Harry can trace his family back 1000 years, he could go on his phone and find a book/podcast about any of his ancestors, many Americans and British people would love that. It isn't a conscious thing, but he does strike me as lost without the scaffolding he has always known.

Its possible that Harry until recently was genuinely unable to see how he has become an object of ridicule. That he hadn't really noticed that on virtually every public appearance he looked like her dog on a lead or some kind of hostage under constant surveillance and physical restraint. It's like nothing any one has ever seen before, quite shocking to see. The only way I can excuse her for it is that perhaps he has had a really bad drug problem and she has felt it necessary to monitor him like you would a 5 year old.

But if he was unaware of the degree to which he's been made a mockery of, then possibly somehow someone has finally made him aware, perhaps showed him some of the many hours of footage, countless photos etc where he looked cowed and emasculated.

That would have been a huge wake up call, requiring a complete change of how they have been doing things. It needn't have necessarily meant marriage problems, he may feel that the world just can't cope with how bright M shines, can't cope with a strong independent woman, its jealously, outdated stuffy Brits thinking the woman should be subservient to the man, its racism etc.

Living in California is, I would imagine, an amazing experience.

For a normal person, maybe (although I don't know many Brits who've settled there permanently - most find it shallow and ultimately quite depressing). But don't forget Harry doesn't mingle freely or have any real freedom. Everywhere he goes he's trailed by a car full of security. He runs with a security guard. He goes for a coffee and a dog walk with security. He goes out for dinner and the whole place has to be secured in advance.

In a recent article, an unnamed neighbour in Montecito said that she hadn't met them, that they keep themselves to themselves, that they have more security than even the biggest stars in the neighbourhood, and that the locals would love to see them, but never do. Meghan, in that interview posted up-thread said: 'We don't get out much'.

I think they live a very secluded and probably quite lonely life. It's rumoured that Harry's best friend is his security guard! Imagine that! He spent his entire life up to 2019 surrounded by family, friends and staff and when he was in the army, his fellow officers. Those of us who are familiar with CA and can imagine the lovely life we could live there - he doesn't enjoy any of that. I totally get why he wants to rehabilitate his image in the UK and spend more time here. California looks like a gilded cage with year-round sunshine to me.

They both (understandably) have major mother issues so I think their perspective on what is a reasonable amount of time for parents to be around young children will potentially be very different from the rest of us. I used to think this would manifest as them having their children with them 24/7 and being an incredibly tight-knit family but clearly it has gone the other way and there not a close attachment in the normal way.

It's definitely possible this is all a publicity stunt on M's part, it won't have escaped her the media furore about where is Catherine, prior to the announcement of her cancer. I wouldn't be suprised if she made a sudden, dramatic appearance somewhere on his schedule.

It's definitely possible this is all a publicity stunt on M's part, it won't have escaped her the media furore about where is Catherine, prior to the announcement of her cancer. I wouldn't be suprised if she made a sudden, dramatic appearance somewhere on his schedule.

It would be a pretty cynical and sick stunt to copy the behaviour and circumstances of someone with cancer, just to get some attention 🫤

Agree

It feels like the both of them, made out all they want for their kids is to have a normal life….but have both ended up giving them a very isolated upbringing.

Their parents are frequently away, especially their father. They have teams of security around them at all times. They have no cousins to play with, no aunts and uncles, no grandparents with the exception of Doria. They are never out together as a family doing family things, like going to the park, going for ice cream. The kids have been completely hidden from view and spend all their time at home.

Harry and Meghan will argue that the don’t want photographers chasing them etc- but if they had just gone quietly to live a simple life, they would have been left in relative peace. Instead they have repeatedly made themselves figures of ridicule. Constant attention seeking with the book and docu series. All to keep up attention and fame

Those kids will grow up one day and read about everything they’ve done and will reflect on their childhood and how much they missed on. In particular, they will question why they were hidden away when their parents constantly courted the limelight.

I realise we are all speculating, what if we have got it the wrong way round though?

It is entirely possible that Harry has got tired of sharing the spotlight and has insisted Meghan stay at home. Think about how resentful he is about being the spare, that is the true Harry, not the cheeky chappie the men in grey suits created. The Harry that wrote Spare wants to be number 1 in his world.

He spoke about wanting to leave the Royal family way before he met Meghan, he didn't prepare her for royal life at all and didn't get her help when she struggled. What if he used her to leave and to get children and is now blaming her for the mess he has made of things?

I don't think Meghan makes great PR choices and I'm not saying that she is perfect but maybe it is Harry who is driving this brand separation and Harry who is trying to regain the spotlight by throwing his wife to the wolves. He did it to his family so why not do it to his wife.

Agree. To someone living a terrace rental and working for Amazon, their life will seem incredible beyond belief.

But for someone with his background and options, it must seem fairly miserable and oppressive.

He could've bought a private island in the British Isles - like Bear Grylls and his family - with its own beaches etc.

I don't know why people mention the year round sunshine in California as a benefit.. I spent two years in Australia and it got to the point where I wanted to shake my fist at the merciless, banal sun each day. And christmas over there felt like a cruel joke. We Brits like to complain about the weather (as is our right, far too many grey skies) but I think most really miss the seasons when they move and it's like groundhog day with sun sun sun.

The mist in Cornish valley outside my bedroom window in the mornings is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen and I defy the Montecito McMansion to have a view even half so beguiling.

Perhaps another possibility is that after a suitable pause they're planning to reveal that Meghan's suffering a complete breakdown/more suicidal ideation, in the hope that it'll stop any negative comment at all?

“Harry and Meghan will argue that the don’t want photographers chasing them etc- but if they had just gone quietly to live a simple life, they would have been left in relative peace. Instead they have repeatedly made themselves figures of ridicule. Constant attention seeking with the book and docu series. All to keep up attention and fame.”

Had they stayed within the RF , the DC would not have been photographed without their parents ‘ approval. There are clear laws around this . Other members of the RF manage to keep their DC out of the public eye ( Beatrice is a good example). Meghan said that Archie wouldn’t be able to go to school in the U.K. as there would be 50 photographers waiting which is absolute rubbish . The only time we see the Wales DC going to school is when one of them starts school .

I very much hope she is OK.

It would be very wrong of Harry to be absent if it were the case (I know there was criticism from some quarters for William spending more time at home at points in Catherine's illness, but I think that was the right thing for him to have done)

I think it's OK for her to choose whether and when she appears in public.

And as the most recent thing I read was that she is excited about a launch (ARO? the lifestyle series?) early next year, it is completely possible that she is primarily occupied with that.

Agree, she totally lied when she said that.

She was also being extremely passive aggressive with the impication that W&C aren’t good parents because their children go to school in the UK (implying that they are chased down with photographers, which is completely untrue) and that she is a good parent because she took her children away from that

she said re photographers chasing them at school:
'Sorry, I have a problem with that. That doesn't make me obsessed with privacy. That makes me a strong and good parent protecting my child," Meghan says

That wouldnt look good on PH though would it....they were last seen gurning leaving the Tyler Perry - then supposedly PH went off on a lads holiday to the mountains, then week in NYC, on to the UK and then possibly straight to Africa - so away from his family for 3 weeks - surely not if his wife had a mental collapse and was home alone with two very young children?

That would bring any recent rise in his star come crashing back down as the worst husband of the year award.

One thing that struck me as odd was scheduling their Nigeria trip (which could have been any time, they are pretty underemployed) with US Mother's Day, which a lot of mums view as a bit of a sacred day to be spent with the children at all costs. Maybe they forgot about it when they scheduled the trip? Maybe their need to not show recent pictures of their children meant they couldn't do a social media message about the day. What it did allow Meghan to do was to talk about being a mother in front of an audience, something she does with great frequency.

I don't know why people mention the year round sunshine in California as a benefit..

Well, it may not be a benefit to you or to Harry, for that matter. But as someone who suffers from SAD and finds the period from Dec-Feb every year really depressing, I'd dearly love to spend my winters in California!

But presumably with his money, he would always have been able to get away for winter sun whenever he liked anyway. If I could afford it, I'd go to sunnier climes jan-feb also. Its more the year-round California climate that I know I would find very wearing.