A Very Royal Scandal (Amazon Prime)

[MrsLeonFarrell]

Apologies if there is a thread about this.

I haven't watched Scoop, because Netflix won't work on my old TV box so I have no idea how this compares. I watched all 3 episodes and found it bizarre. I did like that it didn't include any royals outside the York family.

What struck me the most was how sheltered Andrew's team must have been to think him doing an interview was a good idea. I'm just a member of the public and I wouldn't have advised him to speak for himself going only by what I read about him before Epstein was even heard of. Why on earth would anyone advise him to do this? Why did they think it had gone well? And why has he not just retired out of the public view and accepted there is no way back.

The arrogance of some people is astounding. I don't even think it's a royal thing but more a monied sense of entitlement, although ironically he didn't seem to have much money.

Anyone else seen it?

Good for you

It's clever, it's insidious, it's there over years

You're obviously more clued in than I am 🙄

Only you're not.

And maybe you interpret things the way you want them to read. You're hardly unbiased!

Bit like our elected ones then.

Can you spot the difference?

what here?
what for?

Maybe because you implied that he shouldn't be condemned for his actions?

Because your posts imply you appear to think otherwise in the face of decades worth of reports mapping his entitlement, arrogance and downright buffoonery.

Not a clue what you mean.

I read posts on Mumsnet and take a view, I've seen defence of Andrew. That's all.

Not really. They all have their snouts in the trough.

Yeah. Sure.

Glad you agree 👍

I don't agree with anything you have to say as a general rule. Just so you know.

Sorry, I haven't a clue who you are, I've never seen your name before, so I find it a bit strange you seem to know me and don't agree with anything I say 🤣

Biaised on what? Andrew?! Yeah, I'll take that as a compliment 👍

Anyway, back to the subject in hand... Emily Maitlis who was heavily involved in A Very Royal Scandal talks about that moment in time and how everything changed after that.

I found this interesting....a whole month after the carcrash interview...
Maitlis also revealed that a month after her interview in November 2019, she was "pulled aside" by someone close to King Charles, who was at the time the Prince of Wales, She said the person simply said: "HRH was not unhappy with the interview." But Maitlis says she spent years "trying to puzzle out" what the words meant

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyn7ylgj5lo

(sorry about all the edits, took me 3 attempts to manage italics!)

@BustingBaoBun , I'm aware of that information about Epstein , however the way you worded it made it sound like it was Andrew .
This thread is about the interview with Andrew , other people's crimes are their responsibility alone , by all accounts Diddy is now accused of many crimes,many famous celebrities have mixed with him , that doesn't make them guilty.

I'll have to spell it out then.

There's only one set of little piggies that can't ever be ousted however deep they're in the trough and it's not the elected set.

Sorry, what do you mean. All I can see I said is... That is NOT saying Andrew partook in that but it is the sort of man he liked to mix with

So I partcularly said that is NOT me saying it was Andrew. (young girls being sent to Epstein)
I think you missed that bit?

I am talking about the interview, see my last post and an interesting call Maitlis had from Charles's aide a month after the programme.

I mean, this board is full of Andrew apologists. They usually start with accusing a 14 year old of willingly engaging in sex work with middle-aged men. You could put forward some counter arguments about how he is completely wonderful and how none of the things mentioned here are shady in the slightest.

Apologies @BustingBaoBun , my post was replying to this posted by @Seasmoke , you quoted and replied to me so I mistakenly assumed you posted this!
Best to let the actual poster respond.

I was replying to @MrsLargeEmbodied. I shoukd have made it clear that I was talking specifically about the particular VG situation and generally about Al the other things spoken about on the threadvabout Andrews bookish behaviour. I was referring to the point that people who bring up the VG has been accused of recruiting other girls ( typical behaviour of groomed children) and that she went there voluntarily when she was there from the age of 14 only talk about VG. The only person who has publicly accused PA. I would imagine the MO was the same for many girls there but I haven't heard any victim blaming of the other girls there. The only difference between VG and the other girls is that she's accused PA.

Same difference. No need to spell it out whatsoever.

When one elected set of little piggies are ousted (eg the Tories recently), the following newly-elected set of little piggies (eg Starmer et al) stick their snouts straight into that only-just-emptied trough.

Are you that naive? Come on!

Well of course they do but they also get found out, held to account and voted out. Unlike the unelected set who can hide all sorts behind legislation designed to allow them to do just that.

Are you that obtuse? Come on!

I think you are the one who is obtuse, if you fail to see that replacing one set of self-serving pricks with another set of self-serving pricks makes fuck all difference!!

How often do they actually get called to account? How naive can you be?!! Come on!!

Well.....after a spell away and no access to Prime, I have finally binge watched the whole thing, three episodes

I have lots of thoughts about it and I know it is just a drama, and hearsay...

He comes across as what I imagine is a true depiction of himself... Boorish entitled unpleasant and quite frankly, a bit thick.
I imagine he has not learnt one thing from this debacle, he has not questioned himself, he feels no remorse for his behaviour over decades, he doesn't regret the Epstein friendship, and he thinks of young women as just someone he can bed

If it is true, which it is reported as so, I find it quite shocking how much Beatrice was involved in arranging and facilitating this interview and how much all his family, Sarah and daughters think he is so hard done by. They are obviously all as bad as each other.

So basically, my view of them hasn't changed in the slightest after watching this. It was after all only a drama but it reinforced my thoughts about what happened and Andrew and his family, Amanda Thirsk, the arse licking aides, the absolute panic they all went into as this unfolded

Worth a watch
Andrew was a better depiction in this than in Scoop but I preferred the other Emily played by Gillian Anderson who was uncannily like Emily

Goodness.

Someone must have had a bad day yesterday.

I imagine he has not learnt one thing from this debacle, he has not questioned himself, he feels no remorse for his behaviour over decades, he doesn't regret the Epstein friendship

Agree.

I think the only thing he regrets is the loss of his public life and the chance to stride around self-importantly talking at the peasants.

He's seized every fleeting chance he's been given to get himself back in the limelight when he gets the opportunity.

I agree @BustingBaoBun

I think the only thing he regrets is the loss of his public life and the chance to stride around self-importantly talking at the peasants

Haha yes! There is one funny line in Royal Scandal where he shouts "BUT MY PEOPLE WANT TO SEE ME" 😂