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Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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ThatAvidViewer · 12/09/2024 21:11

Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

Would you work for Harry and Meghan? Ex-employees say run away.

Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Harry and Meghan

Plus, how an Echo glitch turned Alexa into a “commie operative” and Dimitri, the million-dollar maitre ‘d, rides off into the Sunset (Tower).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-keeps-quitting-prince-harry-meghan-markle-1235996963/

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Twistybranch · 15/09/2024 12:59

Mylovelygreendress · 15/09/2024 12:40

Indeed . It was the Platinum Jubilee weekend. According to reports , H and M wanted to take a film crew to record Lilibet meeting Lilibet but it was refused .,

Yes, didn’t they bring their personal photographer….whats his name? Along to BP but they were told no by the queens staff. But….what he did get were internal photos of BP which they used in their docu. They didn’t have permission to take these photos etc. They also took film in kids Wendy house at Windsor, again bringing their fav photographer and using the images in their docu

Uricon2 · 15/09/2024 13:04

I'm interested in the NDA situation. I know the law changed in the US to stop them being used to shield the perpetrators of sexual crime, but don't know how much further it went.

Sparklywhiteteeth · 15/09/2024 13:04

MummyJ12 · 15/09/2024 12:54

Exactly!
How unfortunate. It just makes them look worse.

Yes it’s not good, they habe obviously tried to quickly put it to bed, a disgruntled employee truing to ruin Harry;s 40th (which is odd in Itself).

but of course now everyone knows it’s a dozen disgruntled employees inc a senior current one.and that’s not easy to bat away. I’m guessing they will now just ignore it. Because what can you say?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/09/2024 13:04

Smirke · 15/09/2024 12:24

Also in UK law (dont know which system PH is under) any inheritance does not fall directly to the marriage pot - it stays with the individual unless and until they choose to put it to family use - eg buy a house, put it in joint savings etc once it is there it becomes 50/50 and cannot be reassigned in divorce settlement.

I'm told it's much the same in California, and that (like in the UK) if there isn't enough to keep both parties in a suitable manner an inheritance can still be up for grabs - but maybe someone with actual knowledge could advise?

That said, I expect the RF's lawyers have thought of this and that anything "owned" by Harry - and especially anything the family want to keep their hands on - has been arranged to keep it out of reach

MummyJ12 · 15/09/2024 13:06

Sparklywhiteteeth · 15/09/2024 13:04

Yes it’s not good, they habe obviously tried to quickly put it to bed, a disgruntled employee truing to ruin Harry;s 40th (which is odd in Itself).

but of course now everyone knows it’s a dozen disgruntled employees inc a senior current one.and that’s not easy to bat away. I’m guessing they will now just ignore it. Because what can you say?

Unlike their crazed fans, even they can’t defend the indefensible.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/09/2024 13:13

Mylovelygreendress · 15/09/2024 12:30

I have thought for some time that the RF have information from Meghan’s past and are sitting on it until Harry sees the light.
There’s no way MI6/5 ( get mixed up) didn’t look carefully at Meghan when she joined the RF .
Things could get nasty .

I've said the same all along, Mylovelygreendress, and that with a known loose cannon marrying an "outsider" it's unthinkable that their advisors wouldn't dig

This will include many things we've all mentioned and probably others not even thought of, but it's not for nothing that they say knowledge is power and the palace's very skilled PR people will no doubt use it as they see fit

GreenFields11 · 15/09/2024 13:14

Mylovelygreendress · 15/09/2024 12:33

I posted this on another thread but worth reposting . The uncropped photo

What's the significance of this photo? I'm interested.
Sorry if I've missed another post already explaining!

Mylovelygreendress · 15/09/2024 13:17

Simply that the photo posted by the RF is of Harry on his own whereas the photo actually includes Meghan . Small detail but it struck me as deliberate . Pretty sure the King has a photo of Harry on his own that could have been used.,
But then I do like a conspiracy theory!

GreenFields11 · 15/09/2024 13:19

@Mylovelygreendress
Oh I see......thanks for explaining!
It might just be because it's a recent one that shows him happy and smiling. So many recent pictures of him show him looking solemn, so maybe they saw this and used it for his happy expression.
This is going off on a tangent a bit, but
looking at the entire picture, that you posted, there's something off about Meghan's expression, compared to how much Harry is laughing. They are both looking at the same person so you'd have thought they'd both be laughing to the same extent. Yes her mouth is smiling (acting IMO), but look at the expression in her eyes.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 15/09/2024 13:24

Smirke · 15/09/2024 12:24

Also in UK law (dont know which system PH is under) any inheritance does not fall directly to the marriage pot - it stays with the individual unless and until they choose to put it to family use - eg buy a house, put it in joint savings etc once it is there it becomes 50/50 and cannot be reassigned in divorce settlement.

That's what the law is in California too. The money would have had to go into a mutual pot for it to be part of a financial settlement

twilightcafe · 15/09/2024 13:29

CathyorClaire · 15/09/2024 12:13

Anyone else feeling a teeny bit sorry for Harry on his birthday

Not really.

He's not in chains and I'm inclined to believe reports that Pa would take darling boy back anytime. I'm also sure that should Harold return with his tail between his legs Pa wields enough clout to clear up even this gigantic mess to everyone's satisfaction.

Yes - with an NDA and a big dollop of cash for MM.

MummyJ12 · 15/09/2024 13:31

twilightcafe · 15/09/2024 13:29

Yes - with an NDA and a big dollop of cash for MM.

Can you imagine how much Meghan would go round shouting to anyone and everyone about how the RF are still trying to silence her if this happened?

bluegreygreen · 15/09/2024 13:31

WinnieTheW0rm · 15/09/2024 12:34

From a still, we have no real idea if that's a representative image, or simply an unfelicitous moment whilst moving turning, ending a smile to speak or whatever.

And yes, what would be the point of showing her smiling, when your narrative is to say something else? That is the very essence of confirmation bias.

Just like that horrible interpretation of Kate's briefly resting (and bitchy looking) face when turning from smiling/waving out of one window, and just before looking animatedly at William, was taken as evidence of unhappiness and lack of love.

That was wrong and this is wrong.

It's nothing to do with whether or not the viewer is ND, it's to do with whether we are seeing a fair view in the first place. I do not think we can ever be sure that is the case with stills, nor with v short clips. They are selected to confirm the hypothesis.

I think there is far better evidence on this than trying to extrapolate micro-expressions from stills selected for effect.

The actions of the Hollywood Reporter in publishing, and standing by nay extending their story in that short vid, plus that coming out despite her being a WME client; that's what I find damning here.

Plus looking at Harry's words and actions over the years

Agree with this

I have experience of misrepresentation of scenarios caused by still and cropped images, both in work and public situations, which means I hesitate to jump to conclusions from them in any setting.

(First time ever posting on a H&M thread, so no axe to grind)

twilightcafe · 15/09/2024 13:36

MummyJ12 · 15/09/2024 13:31

Can you imagine how much Meghan would go round shouting to anyone and everyone about how the RF are still trying to silence her if this happened?

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Depends how big that pot of cash was. Everyone has a price. King Charles is rich beyond measure - what's a few hundred million dollars to him?

Stickystickysticky · 15/09/2024 13:38

FuzzyDiva · 15/09/2024 12:40

So they are deeply concerned about the timing of articles about them and when they are released, despite ensuring for years that they release information to try to take over the headlines whenever the royal family do something to dominate the headlines.

A taste of their own medicine which they obviously don't like the taste of.

Smirke · 15/09/2024 13:39

twilightcafe · 15/09/2024 13:36

Depends how big that pot of cash was. Everyone has a price. King Charles is rich beyond measure - what's a few hundred million dollars to him?

They have the bullying enq up their sleeve and maybe the ward thing re the DC - so I suggest its check mate / stale mate?

MummyJ12 · 15/09/2024 13:47

twilightcafe · 15/09/2024 13:36

Depends how big that pot of cash was. Everyone has a price. King Charles is rich beyond measure - what's a few hundred million dollars to him?

Money is very important to her.
So is power and fame though by the looks of it. She loves to play the victim too.
It’s certainly going to get interesting if things are going the way the rumours suggest.

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 15/09/2024 13:49

Uricon2 · 15/09/2024 12:55

I've never seen the word "mistruths" used before I don't think. Is it the same as untruths or what most of us call lies? Or just the usual verbosity and mangling of language?

Yeah it's a weird word isn't it? It reminds me of Hillary Clinton saying she "mis spoke"

I don't think it is the usual word salad and mangling of language - I think they're being careful legally not to describe what's being said about them as lies or untruths because that won't stand up if challenged. So instead they are insinuating they are being lied about by using the made up word "mistruths", but if pressed can then backtrack and argue that the person involved spoke "their own truth" or "misspoke" or some other obfuscating claptrap.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 15/09/2024 13:50

King Charles is rich beyond measure - what's a few hundred million dollars to him?

I very much doubt he has 'a few hundred million dollars' of personal wealth at his own disposal.

smilesy · 15/09/2024 13:55

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 15/09/2024 13:49

Yeah it's a weird word isn't it? It reminds me of Hillary Clinton saying she "mis spoke"

I don't think it is the usual word salad and mangling of language - I think they're being careful legally not to describe what's being said about them as lies or untruths because that won't stand up if challenged. So instead they are insinuating they are being lied about by using the made up word "mistruths", but if pressed can then backtrack and argue that the person involved spoke "their own truth" or "misspoke" or some other obfuscating claptrap.

Edited

The Sussexes are certainly experts in the field of obfuscating clap trap 😆

Sparklywhiteteeth · 15/09/2024 13:59

Abouttimeforanamechange · 15/09/2024 13:50

King Charles is rich beyond measure - what's a few hundred million dollars to him?

I very much doubt he has 'a few hundred million dollars' of personal wealth at his own disposal.

He’s worth about 700 million personally. I doubt he’d give it to Megan of all people.

WinnieTheW0rm · 15/09/2024 14:09

Sparklywhiteteeth · 15/09/2024 12:43

You do understand this conversation is about a dozen employees speaking up about bullying and not about a single photo. It feels like you’ve lost sight of what’s being discussed and decided to focus on an image.

no one gives a shit if the image proves or not, it’s a side line. What’s important is all the employees speaking up.

Yes, Of course I understand!!. Please don't misrepresent what I have been saying - which is precisely that we should not/not be looking at interpretations of photographs (confirmation bias and unfair/unrepresentative selection) because there is more important evidence.

It is a different poster who is suggesting we should give credence to it. I was responding to that, saying that it's not very reliable and there are more important sources.

As I said (previous post and several times earlier in the thread) I am very much of the opinion that we should be looking at their words and actions, and that Hollywood Reporter should be taken seriously.

Uricon2 · 15/09/2024 14:10

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 15/09/2024 13:49

Yeah it's a weird word isn't it? It reminds me of Hillary Clinton saying she "mis spoke"

I don't think it is the usual word salad and mangling of language - I think they're being careful legally not to describe what's being said about them as lies or untruths because that won't stand up if challenged. So instead they are insinuating they are being lied about by using the made up word "mistruths", but if pressed can then backtrack and argue that the person involved spoke "their own truth" or "misspoke" or some other obfuscating claptrap.

Edited

Thanks @Theredfoxfliesatmidnight , interesting and would make sense.

MummyJ12 · 15/09/2024 14:14

WinnieTheW0rm · 15/09/2024 14:09

Yes, Of course I understand!!. Please don't misrepresent what I have been saying - which is precisely that we should not/not be looking at interpretations of photographs (confirmation bias and unfair/unrepresentative selection) because there is more important evidence.

It is a different poster who is suggesting we should give credence to it. I was responding to that, saying that it's not very reliable and there are more important sources.

As I said (previous post and several times earlier in the thread) I am very much of the opinion that we should be looking at their words and actions, and that Hollywood Reporter should be taken seriously.

We all form opinions through a variety of different sources. I actually believe that photos can be more telling and evidential and it’s not for others to tell me different. Non verbal communication is very powerful and so we can learn a lot from observing others.

Just because there are other sources, don’t discount photos that actually make it very clear that she’s difficult and volatile.

WinnieTheW0rm · 15/09/2024 14:19

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 15/09/2024 13:49

Yeah it's a weird word isn't it? It reminds me of Hillary Clinton saying she "mis spoke"

I don't think it is the usual word salad and mangling of language - I think they're being careful legally not to describe what's being said about them as lies or untruths because that won't stand up if challenged. So instead they are insinuating they are being lied about by using the made up word "mistruths", but if pressed can then backtrack and argue that the person involved spoke "their own truth" or "misspoke" or some other obfuscating claptrap.

Edited

Mistruth isn't a made up word in British English

OED lists its first use in 1480, and it's a direct synonym for "lie" "falsehood"

I don't think the word salad is the important point here.

They're going for the "smear the other party" approach (again) and it will be interesting to see if that will work for them again. As HR is suggesting that Harry has smeared the Palace itself (accusing them of dirty tricks to cover up behaviour which he must have known was true), perhaps this approach will not have the effect she/they might be hoping for.

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