Hollywood Reporter - Meghan and Harry

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Why Hollywood Keeps Quitting on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (hollywoodreporter.com)

Why’d they all leave? What explains the churn? “Everyone’s terrified of Meghan,” claims a source close to the couple. “She belittles people, she doesn’t take advice. They’re both poor decision-makers, they change their minds frequently. Harry is a very, very charming person — no airs at all — but he’s very much an enabler. And she’s just terrible.”

That’s still enabling behaviour. Whether she sold her family out also, doesn’t negate supporting a bully.

Sure, I don’t disagree, simply I was pointing out why portia didn’t get heat and harry will.

Harry knew it all. And still he lied

I agree, @Sparklywhiteteeth, and have always blamed Harry much more than his wife for this mess, but I imagine he also knew what would likely follow if he didn't slavishly do whatever she wanted, and with two children in the mix he maybe didn't want to risk that

No matter how ghastly both their behaviours, from her own selfish perspective she really has played a blinder in stitching him up, though even that's his own fault for not listening to those who suggested caution

Good luck for his special birthday though - I wonder if there'll be any "joy" to be had in that house

I wonder if previous press articles will now be looked at through fresh eyes? One that stands out for me is a critical article about her leaving her dog behind in the US when she moved to the UK for the Wedding. At the time I thought it was harsh, the dog was elderly and I imagined it had been a difficult decision. Now though, I'm wondering if the author of the piece was trying to show us who she was.

The dog was only 5 !!!!

Is it true that NDAs aren’t allowed to suppress bullying allegations against employers in California? Does anyone know anything about this?

I agree with you, but I also think that Harry can't blame Meghan for everything that he, and he alone, has said and done. 'Spare' is his book, and AFAIK he worked with the ghost-writer on his own, she wasn't in the room directing him what to include and what not to. That was his story of his life told from his POV, every vindictive and petty detail of it. And the interviews he gave when Spare came out - that was all him - all the nasty little smirks, bitter invective and 'the ball's in their court'. I believe that their relationship is toxic, that she's a classic narcissist, that she has isolated him from everyone and everything that he's ever known, but he's not a puppet on a string, he's also said and done some awful things that have nothing to do with her.

I imagine he also knew what would likely follow if he didn't slavishly do whatever she wanted, and with two children in the mix he maybe didn't want to risk that

Yeah, one line from the recent accusations really stood out for me, which is 'Everyone is terrified of her'. Maybe he is too? He must know that if he crosses her she will cut him off, like she's done with everyone else. Her dad raised her on his own, paid for her private education, taught her lots of stuff that helped her professionally as a model and actress, and she has completely cut him out of her life - he is dead to her. She is the mother of Harry's children and he surely realises that if things go south with her his relationship with his children is hugely at risk. This is a woman who casts people off without a backward glance, she will cut him off and stop him seeing those children in a heartbeat and I'm willing to bet that he knows that.

I agree with this she whipped him up to do her bidding - he was always the mouthpiece. She wanted back to LA asap and needed to isolate PH from his family so whipped up, escalated and amplified trivial common family gripes in his head.....hence we get Spare - she was no where to be seen on that. She is very clever at keeping her mouth shut and getting fools to do her dirty work.

Oh really? For some reason I thought it was older . That makes me think even more that someone was waving a red flag.

I'm a bit confused.....I've just read the whole thread without reading the Hollywood Reporter article. By the time I got to the end of this thread, I thought something huge must have been reported so went back to the OP and read the link.
I don't get what's going on here.
It doesn't read to me as though it's anything that hasn't all been said before.
It's not even very long.
Then it starts talking about how Meghan's been reading a self help book and about what she said on a podcast.
I can't see anything new being reported here and certainly nothing to cause any trauma to Meghan as it's all old ground - what am I missing?
This is a genuine question.
I dislike Meghan and my narcissist radar (which is pretty strong, having been brought up by one) was firing off all over the place when Meghan was introduced to us, the public. So I'm not defending her here. I would actually love to see someone come out and produce enough evidence to finally expose her. But I can't see that happening from this small report....

Might be even worth ahving a listen to the mad Markle siblings - they might have had something a grain of truth to say despite their dodgy antics.

Most other ex-colleagues, friends, family have likley been 'silenced'

Wonder how Jessica Mulroney is feeling today?

I think we need to be wary of reading too much in to stills.

They will be selected to support the text narrative.

We saw it done during KateGate, and it's just as wrong to do it now

Whilst Charles is alive those children are his wards, as grandkids of the monarch. Legally he can have them brought back to the uk. Clearly he wouldn’t, but he could if they split. And I really don’t think the American government would try to stop it. They would support him.

however once Charles goes. So does that authority. William will never have those kids as his wards. It can only be grandkids of the monarch. Not nephew niece.At that point Harry is on his own. And Megan will never ever permit her kids to go to the uk.

she’s not even allowed them back since they left. Megan isn’t an idiot. She knows legally Charles can do as he pleases with those kids. Effectively for legal purposes he’s the parent. No one can argue there is even a relationship. She’s not allowed them to step foot in the uk.

With Meghan however, all her energy in the beginning was the drama she used to manipulate Harry. By whatever means.

But now, she has two kids and trying to develop a lifestyle brand, creating a joyful humanitarian image, becoming a dolphin investor, getting her producing career off the ground, supporting her besties at bookshops etc….She cannot be putting in the energy she did when she was trying to get that ring on her finger.

I think Harry needs a lot of attention and he doesn’t get that anymore from her. So maybe he will start to see her bad behaviour more and more, seen as he is no longer the object of her attention.

Of course it’s selected to support the narrative. What would be the point of picking images where she’s publicly smiling?

it’s not wrong. Unless someone has nd issues. You can see the anger and disdain on her face, with her employees. It is what it is.

5?! That's nothing. How could anyone do that? I always thought the only positive thing about M was she seemed to love dogs. The only thing I have in common with her is we both have beagles and they aren't the easiest dogs! But to leave a young dog behind when you have the money to bring it with you?! That really says a lot about her.

I didnt know this - I have always wondered why PH didnt bring them over (without MM) even as bait to see KC...who surely couldn't snub them with diary clashes.

@GreenFields11
The significance is that previous allegations have been explained away by H+M as baseless smears - they said the RF had made it up and fed the story to the papers. And that there was no bullying, Americans simply do things differently and their UK team couldn't cope with it.

But this is the Hollywood Reporter, not influenced by the RF, and very influential in the world that Meghan thinks she belongs to. Also a world where bullying and bad behaviour towards subordinates is a big no, especially at the moment. In the follow up interview, the editor said they had twelve different sources, some very high up and some current. He also pointed out that Harry saying the RF made up the earlier bullying allegations was itself a lie.

So good sources, reputable journalism, influential publication, nothing to do with the "Briddish press", not just happening in the UK, Meghan is a bully and Harry is an enabler and lied and threw his family under the bus to protect her.

But Charles would never do that, even if what you say is right and his jurisdiction as monarch extends to the USA. Since the UK can't even get the US to hand over Anne Sacoolas for the manslaughter of a British man on a British road on which she was driving on the wrong side, I'd like to see them try and remove two US citizen DC from their DM in the US!

Plus, can you imagine the optics of that? Meghan knows she's sitting pretty - Charles is NEVER going to try and take her DC away from her!

I agree but is it possibly something she would hold over PH to keep control?

They will just come out with it’s a conspiracy against us blah blah
….someone we sacked because they did a rubbish job

I remember they started smearing their employees with the first nanny

I really hope they don’t get away with it this time and the journalists double down on the number and legitimacy of their sources

They cant this time because the source was a very senior member of their team still employed.....as was made very clear in the journalists follow up interview.

@Hughs
Thanks for explaining this Hughs.
I still have a sinking feeling that this rticle won't take her down.
Sadly.
I think it's because I've personally seen narcissists win, win and win again.
How they get away with it, and how Meghan gets away with her behaviour, confuses the hell out of me with regard to human psychology.

I think you have misunderstood what I wrote.

the law is Charles is effectively the legal guardian of those children, irrelevant of where they are in the world. As they are the grandkids of the monarch. It is not the same as extraditing a criminal.or where his jurisdiction is. He is effectively their legal guardian. He has custody.

and I am not remotely suggesting he would take the kids off of Megan. You need to follow the conversation, this was about if Harry came back and Megan refused to let the kids come to the uk and spend time with their father. Charles legally could step in. Of course it’s unlikely that would ever happen, it doesn’t change the fact though.

and megan will know tnis, of course there is a reason she’s never allowed those kids back.she knows Charles has authority here. Even I know this. There is no way she doesn’t know Charles has custody.

https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/king-charles-needs-archie-lilibet-diana-work-crown-ancient-rule-gives-full-custody-sussex-grandkids#:~:text=By%20Royal%20Decree%3A%20King%20Charles,Full%20Custody'%20of%20Sussex%20Grandkids&text=King%20Charles%20has%20custody%20of,on%20centuries%2Dold%20prerogative..