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The royal family

Catherine Health Update

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 09/09/2024 16:34

She has released a video to state that she has completed her cancer treatment.

news.sky.com/story/kate-health-update-live-kate-has-new-perspective-on-everything-as-diagnosis-to-remain-private-13211996

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/09/2024 08:47

I wish these devout Sussex fans would stop and wonder whether Harry and Meghan would really be onboard with the nasty stuff they keep posting

Given they're on record as thanking some of them and taking others along on their trips it would seem they are, @MrsLeonFarrell. FWIW I didn't want to believe it either, but the facts seem to be stacking up in that direction

I agree, though, that the backlash they'd likely get if they pushed back means they're stuck between a rock and a hard place, but then that's what happens if folk ally themselves with mindsets like this

MrsLeonFarrell · 12/09/2024 08:52

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/09/2024 08:47

I wish these devout Sussex fans would stop and wonder whether Harry and Meghan would really be onboard with the nasty stuff they keep posting

Given they're on record as thanking some of them and taking others along on their trips it would seem they are, @MrsLeonFarrell. FWIW I didn't want to believe it either, but the facts seem to be stacking up in that direction

I agree, though, that the backlash they'd likely get if they pushed back means they're stuck between a rock and a hard place, but then that's what happens if folk ally themselves with mindsets like this

Yeah I don't want to believe that Harry and Meghan are complicit in the Squad either. But if they are taking them on trips that's a hard fact to ignore. (The thanks for charity contributions I'm not bothered about because charities thank automatically.)

Oh dear.

MaturingCheeseball · 12/09/2024 09:13

If H&M were to part ways I think H is for it with the superfans. They will hound him for the rest of his days. And as for the fans loving Invictus… yeah, right.

RedRosesPinkLilies · 12/09/2024 11:35

@JSMill Thank you. I’m doing ok just now, and am away on holiday (so different time zone). I hope your DH is doing well too

Kate’s words really resonated for me. Cancer really changes a lot about how one sees things.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 12/09/2024 12:42

I don't think there was a delay in diagnosis, quite the contrary as both Catherine's and the King's cancers were picked up after operations which most people would probably still be waiting for. The NHS is amazing in treating cancer once it's diagnosed but it has up be found first.

RedRosesPinkLilies · 12/09/2024 13:37

Depends if they tried to treat symptoms medically for a few months, then resorted to surgery. Not realising cancer underlay symptoms
I’m absolutely sure the RF have the best care possible- just making the point cancer succeeds in presenting late because its symptoms can be vague and easily ascribed to other reasons.

ShamedBySiri · 12/09/2024 15:08

I don't think Catherine can have been having particularly troublesome symptoms for long - I don't recall her ever crying off from an engagement in recent times (there were one or two when the children were younger, ascribed to children's needs). She always looks amazing, and gives her all, smiling and enthusiastic. It's hard to imagine she has been gritting her teeth and carrying on despite being in pain for long. Back when she had her surgery Private Eye palace column said it had been expected to be minor surgery and timed for the school holidays so she could be in and out and recovered without anyone knowing, but when they proceeded things were found to be worse than expected. Parts of that ring true. Parts don't. She clearly had major surgery, and making decisions on the hoof while the patient is on the table has a lot of issues eg related to consent. It usually happens when people have been admitted very unwell and need emergency surgery which turns out to be far more extensive than expected. Decisions in these cases aren't made lightly, with surgeons consulting with one or more other consultants to make a best interests decision, recorded in the notes. Cracking on and doing something much more major without prior discussion, planning and consent seems unlikely.

EdithWeston · 12/09/2024 17:09

With the benefit of hindsight, the one thing that was cancelled was her participation in the State visit to Singapore in November 2023, at the time ascribed to George's public exams. That may have been the exact truth, because he would have been sitting entrance exams at the time, or it may have been a contributing factor which, combined with whatever-it-is medically, meant it added up to a decision that remaining in UK was the right thing to do. Also, an unexpected window in her diary might have been an opportunity for medical consultations and tests.

If (big if) that was the case, it was handled really well as there was zero health speculation, and the announcement just after the operation came out of the blue.

It's also possible that before the operation started, there were a range of options about what would be done depending on what was found (and consent given to any/all of them).

And I think the cancer findings were genuinely unexpected, as William went straight there, even though his absence from a family memorial service was bound to be noted and provoke speculation about what on earth was so important it couldn't wait a couple of hours.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 20:43

Trixiefirecracker · 09/09/2024 17:21

I imagine if Meghan had done a similar video she would have been absolutely flamed for being overly sentimental, twee and smaltzy. As it’s Kate, she can do no wrong.

It would have been though. Everything Meghan does is overly sentimental, twee and smaltzy!!

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 21:09

HamSad · 09/09/2024 18:42

Saccharine over-produced nonsense, made using our money.

How sour can a person be?! I doubt it cost you that much personally tbh. Horrible.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 21:18

Purrcats · 09/09/2024 20:52

A really lovely uplifting video. Lovely to see how comfortable and loving as a family they are.

I was trying to work out what card game they were playing with Catherine’s parents.

The only thing that made my eye twitch was her saying “William and me” and not “William
and I” but that’s probably just me.

Hope that she continues to go from strength to strength and is able to make more precious lovely memories with her family.

"William and me" is grammatically correct!

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 21:51

MidYearDiary · 10/09/2024 13:14

She's a human irrelevance. I can understand why anyone who has cancer on top of dealing with all the difficult stuff that comes from not having any money while still having cancer would be irritated by the gushing responses to this carefully-curated piece of guff.

Obviously, one wishes her a full recovery, just as one wishes it for anyone else who has a serious illness, but dear Jesus, the sycophancy. And the credulous lapping up of something whose every shot, backdrop, costume etc will have been carefully constructed and vetted by flotillas of courtiers, PR people etc.

Nobody is a "human irrelevance".

Why do you see empathy as "sycophancy"? That's bizarre.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 21:59

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 16:14

When they go out of their way to change laws for examples changing it so they don't have to pay taxes on inheritance like us 'subjects' have to ..then yes it's immense privilege that they have to continue to keep their wealth.

Maybe they should be subject to the same laws we all have to and pay up, i imagine their millions would go to helping the NHs more and therefore help more people in this country.

What, like all the millions saved by Brexit? Right.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 22:12

AtYourOwnRisk · 10/09/2024 17:52

Another way to look at it would so ‘So much forelock-tugging and toadyism’.

Only if you have a very twisted life view.

Blueroses99 · 14/09/2024 22:18

ShamedBySiri · 12/09/2024 15:08

I don't think Catherine can have been having particularly troublesome symptoms for long - I don't recall her ever crying off from an engagement in recent times (there were one or two when the children were younger, ascribed to children's needs). She always looks amazing, and gives her all, smiling and enthusiastic. It's hard to imagine she has been gritting her teeth and carrying on despite being in pain for long. Back when she had her surgery Private Eye palace column said it had been expected to be minor surgery and timed for the school holidays so she could be in and out and recovered without anyone knowing, but when they proceeded things were found to be worse than expected. Parts of that ring true. Parts don't. She clearly had major surgery, and making decisions on the hoof while the patient is on the table has a lot of issues eg related to consent. It usually happens when people have been admitted very unwell and need emergency surgery which turns out to be far more extensive than expected. Decisions in these cases aren't made lightly, with surgeons consulting with one or more other consultants to make a best interests decision, recorded in the notes. Cracking on and doing something much more major without prior discussion, planning and consent seems unlikely.

Not sure about the first bit - William & Kate’s engagements are not really shared publicly in advance (apart from the most high profile, royal events, Earthshot etc), probably for security reasons, so there may have been late cancellations to events that we never knew about in the first place.

But I think health journeys can be complex and unpredictable. I’m thinking of how it was with my DC. It’s quite possible to give an update one day, then after further investigations /results/ symptoms etc, the situation is different just a few days later. Doesn’t mean the first update was a lie, it’s just continuously evolving and perceived inconsistencies can appear because different information is known at different times.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 22:54

HamSad · 10/09/2024 18:58

She barely did anything before

You're all heart, aren't you!

HamSad · 14/09/2024 23:02

I'm not wrong.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:05

InsolentNoise · 10/09/2024 11:36

Pathetic, tbh 😂
I have no interest in being subservient or sycophantic to a bunch of privileged people who have zero idea about life in the real world.
I’m sure your pal, Kate, didn’t have to worry about loss of earnings or childcare whilst attending appointments/resting/recovering etc.
Y’know, like us ordinary people would?

I wish her the same for everyone going through cancer but I am certainly not bowing and scraping before her, like you.

Jealousy really isn't a good look. That's way more pathetic.

I don't see anyone "bowing and scraping before her". You're making that up.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:11

IAmATorturedPoet · 10/09/2024 23:26

If you have not understood the genuine misgivings about this video already put forward by those suffering from cancer on this thread and those worried about social inequalities then I’m afraid I cannot help you further.

I’ll ask again, what you would expect to see in a video that reflects a woman’s personal cancer journey? Where has she gone wrong? what could she do better? What would you have liked to see?

I don't think anyone whose life has been touched by cancer, whether their own or that of a loved one, has the right to criticise the experience of the PoW. Everyone has their own, individual experience. This is hers. That she has chosen to share it with the world at large is a whole new departure for the RF. Give the woman a break!

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:16

Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 11/09/2024 06:01

With respect you have literally and incorrectly
accused posters of “spilling spite” and “spouting bile” BigWillyLittleTodger for the sake of it , so perhaps you should reflect on your own posting style?

And that is because it is exactly what some posters are doing, or has that fact passed you by completely?!

And saying, "with respect" actually means "with anything but respect". Horrible phrase.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:32

Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 11/09/2024 06:47

I’m talking about inequalities that have already been mentioned many times Serenster; cancer patients who have had their operations cancelled three times. Someone in my family has had their stoma reversal surgery delayed and delayed. This has direct financial implications for them as they do a very active job.

People who are unable to afford a holiday with their dc because cancer has caused financial and material hardship. people who can’t afford the coach ticket to the beach fhs!

Or self employed patients who need time off because they feel wretched but have to keep working or otherwise their dc don’t get fed and the mortgage doesn’t get paid.

And WTAF does that have to do with the RF? The government is in charge of the NHS. Your (and my in fact) gripe is with them. I had a neurology consultation over 2.5 years ago, and an MRI scan over 2 years ago. My condition has got worse, and I am still waiting for another test - while the previous information is now way out of date. I'm not blaming the Princess of Wales for that!!!

I have a good friend of more than 30 years who has always had private health insurance via her husband's job, and has used it many times. Do I begrudge her that? Of course I don't. I'm happy for her to be in a position to get any treatment she needs.

There's absolutely no point in being bitter or envious. It is what it is. There are massive inequalities in life, always has been, always will be.

Take the inequalities up with the powers that be. I'm sure Catherine, if she is the decent person she comes across as, would want everyone to have the same quality of treatment that she has had, but it's not in her gift.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:32

HamSad · 14/09/2024 23:02

I'm not wrong.

Actually you are.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:38

Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 11/09/2024 08:52

Are you seriously suggesting that any of the royals have to wait in a queue and have their operations cancelled like ordinary NHS patients and that their status doesn’t give them privileges in that area?

If you had access to the "privileges" of private medical care - and let's face it, plenty of people in this country have that, not just the Royal Family! - would you say, "oh no, I will join the NHS waiting list because that's the right thing to do!"

Would you fuck!

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:39

Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 11/09/2024 09:07

No it isn’t. I genuinely wish her well.

But I am beginning to think that some royalist posters are pushing this narrative strategically to undermine anyone who has an opinion that is contrary to theirs.

I also feel concern for people going through hellish waiting times for cancer diagnosis, treatment and after-care in the NHS, the latter being non-existent in my family member’s post code apparently. You are lucky if you get an operation done in the same six months it is scheduled. The communication is awful. The whole experience massively more stressful and draining that it needs to be because they have to fight for every bit of care they get when they are not naturally assertive and are feeling ill and weak.

I am not sure that Catherine’s video tallies well with their experience and some cancer patients on Mumsnet have already said that it doesn’t. So why continually contest the fact that, to some cancer patients, the video appears to be a bit tone deaf?

I have to work now so if I don’t reply that’s why.

None of that is Kate's fault.

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2024 23:44

CoffeeCantata · 11/09/2024 09:30

I AM interested in the RF and I'm a mild royalist, but I too find it saccharine and I think, on here, many people would probably agree with that. It's not my cup of tea, but nevertheless I'm so glad to see them as a family and hope Catherine is now on the way to recovery (I know that's not a given).

But I think they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. I really hope they didn't feel forced into this by the horrible SS bullying about Catherine and William being lazy, her not having cancer at all, their marriage being on the rocks and William beating her up - and worse. Can you imagine that being said about you as well as having cancer? That poor woman, her poor husband and children (not to mention parents). I think she's a model of dignity under pressure.

To anyone with any perception, they are a happy couple, comfortable in each other's company and (until now) not feeling it necessary to do performative PDAs. This is probably just a one-off attempt to show them as a family, not as royals as a foil to their more professional public personae.

@CoffeeCantata I totally agree with your assessment. I like the RF, and I think W&C are doing a sterling job with their three gorgeous children, but the video was a little too much for me. It was just a bit cheesy. I'm sad that they feel they need to perform for the public in that way.

I think the affection between W and C was genuine, but they shouldn't have felt they needed to act that out for the cameras. The children were adorable, and I assume they were pretty natural.

I hope they don't feel the need to repeat it.