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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 2024-09-09T15:34:19+00:00

She has released a video to state that she has completed her cancer treatment. https://news.sky.com/story/kate-health-update-live-kate-has-new-perspective-on-everything-as-diagnosis-to-remain-private-13211996

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 18:09

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 17:34

So to summarise:

Catherine was wrong to release an initial statement because it wasn't detailed enough.

She was wrong to release a video because she should have just produced a statement.

She is wrong to take her children to the beach and play in the woods because not everyone has access to the beach or the woods.

She is wrong to talk about her experience of cancer because she has money.

She should be working with cancer charities already because she has experience of cancer and can help people by talking about it.

It's fine to be critical because she is royal and should do everything the way people want her to at all times, even though no one agrees on what she should do.

But above all let's forget that social media and forums were happy to circulate vile lies about her and her family because it created clicks. After all she is royal so is fair game and her children wouldn't affected if she had just done everything perfectly (see above).

Hardly anyone has said she is wrong - i dont think ive seen anyone say she is wrong. They might not agree with the style of the video based on their own perspectives, experiences or other filters.

She already works with some cancer charities or organisations and any comments related to this has from what ive seen about it would of been nice to have mentioned those in the video. That's just someone's opinion.

It's fine to be critical because she is royal and should do everything the way people want her to at all times

*After all she is royal so is fair game and her children wouldn't affected if she had just done everything perfectly (see above).

And you are equally critical of other Royals and always suggesting how they should do things or wear things better and done everything perfectly 💁‍♀️ Do you concern yourself about the impact on their children and themselves? Or will you justify it cos somehow it's different and that's okay?

JADS · 10/09/2024 18:14

@Serenster Marina Hyde has a brilliant podcast with Richard Osman and they are a joy to listen too. I think she makes an astute observation with regards primary source material. I also agree that her initial statement should have been enough. It was for me. I hate oversharing and frankly it's her private medical information.

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 18:17

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 18:09

Hardly anyone has said she is wrong - i dont think ive seen anyone say she is wrong. They might not agree with the style of the video based on their own perspectives, experiences or other filters.

She already works with some cancer charities or organisations and any comments related to this has from what ive seen about it would of been nice to have mentioned those in the video. That's just someone's opinion.

It's fine to be critical because she is royal and should do everything the way people want her to at all times

*After all she is royal so is fair game and her children wouldn't affected if she had just done everything perfectly (see above).

And you are equally critical of other Royals and always suggesting how they should do things or wear things better and done everything perfectly 💁‍♀️ Do you concern yourself about the impact on their children and themselves? Or will you justify it cos somehow it's different and that's okay?

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Seriously? Saying that Meghan doesn't always wear clothes that suit her is exactly the same as saying William has beaten Catherine and that's why she is in hospital?

Saying Harry did Meghan a great disservice by not helping her adjust to his family is the same as saying William is having an affair and is divorcing his wife?

Yep I criticise the Royal family and the Sussexes, for things they do or say that I disagree with. I don't spread lies about them, and if I have I will apologise and say I was wrong. The difference with some posters in the recent past (and I'm not including you I don't remember you posting in this way) is that they were posting lies and delighting in the gross details of what they decided Catherine's illness must be, usually bowel related. And only one poster apologised and did any self reflection, most either disappeared or name changed because they aren't here anymore.

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 18:20

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 18:17

Seriously? Saying that Meghan doesn't always wear clothes that suit her is exactly the same as saying William has beaten Catherine and that's why she is in hospital?

Saying Harry did Meghan a great disservice by not helping her adjust to his family is the same as saying William is having an affair and is divorcing his wife?

Yep I criticise the Royal family and the Sussexes, for things they do or say that I disagree with. I don't spread lies about them, and if I have I will apologise and say I was wrong. The difference with some posters in the recent past (and I'm not including you I don't remember you posting in this way) is that they were posting lies and delighting in the gross details of what they decided Catherine's illness must be, usually bowel related. And only one poster apologised and did any self reflection, most either disappeared or name changed because they aren't here anymore.

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You are admonishing people for critiquing or telling her (Kate) what to do.

Except you do the exact same thing that's all 💁‍♀️

PinkTonic · 10/09/2024 18:25

exprecis · 10/09/2024 16:22

There was a very long gap after that second statement. And then the heavily photoshopped picture.

If it was an attempt to protect their children, I think it wasn't the right move. An earlier announcement would have stopped the rumours which I am sure were a lot more damaging to their children

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At the time of the where is she furore the statement should have sufficed because the original timeline had not been exceeded. There was nothing they should have needed to add at that point. The picture wasn’t photoshopped in a material way and the outrage was utterly ridiculous. You’d have thought they’d photoshopped her into the picture looking normal when she was lying in a coma, which I recall was the implication.

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 18:26

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 18:20

You are admonishing people for critiquing or telling her (Kate) what to do.

Except you do the exact same thing that's all 💁‍♀️

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I was actually trying to point out that Catherine can't win, she will be criticised whatever she did and that it isn't her fault she is rich.

Plus pointing out that most of those being critical are hiding behind revolving names without accountability.

I will stand by or apologise for my posts, I don't claim to get it right every time.

Rhaidimiddim · 10/09/2024 18:27

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 17:34

So to summarise:

Catherine was wrong to release an initial statement because it wasn't detailed enough.

She was wrong to release a video because she should have just produced a statement.

She is wrong to take her children to the beach and play in the woods because not everyone has access to the beach or the woods.

She is wrong to talk about her experience of cancer because she has money.

She should be working with cancer charities already because she has experience of cancer and can help people by talking about it.

It's fine to be critical because she is royal and should do everything the way people want her to at all times, even though no one agrees on what she should do.

But above all let's forget that social media and forums were happy to circulate vile lies about her and her family because it created clicks. After all she is royal so is fair game and her children wouldn't affected if she had just done everything perfectly (see above).

You missed the bit about she's being lazy and should be back at work, even though we are told by the Sussex scolds here that Royal duties aren't really work cos the lackeys do all.the prep.

RocketsMagnificent7 · 10/09/2024 18:28

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 17:34

So to summarise:

Catherine was wrong to release an initial statement because it wasn't detailed enough.

She was wrong to release a video because she should have just produced a statement.

She is wrong to take her children to the beach and play in the woods because not everyone has access to the beach or the woods.

She is wrong to talk about her experience of cancer because she has money.

She should be working with cancer charities already because she has experience of cancer and can help people by talking about it.

It's fine to be critical because she is royal and should do everything the way people want her to at all times, even though no one agrees on what she should do.

But above all let's forget that social media and forums were happy to circulate vile lies about her and her family because it created clicks. After all she is royal so is fair game and her children wouldn't affected if she had just done everything perfectly (see above).

I'd say that's a perfect summation.

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 18:32

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 18:26

I was actually trying to point out that Catherine can't win, she will be criticised whatever she did and that it isn't her fault she is rich.

Plus pointing out that most of those being critical are hiding behind revolving names without accountability.

I will stand by or apologise for my posts, I don't claim to get it right every time.

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It's not some competition to win though? So why do you seem to make it one? There are millions of people who have their own peesonal astes, likes and dislikes, anyone in the public eye knows what you do will never win everyone over and is that even their goal to do that? I don't think Kate has ever made it out she is trying to win...so not sure why you and others turn it into a competition

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 18:34

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 18:32

It's not some competition to win though? So why do you seem to make it one? There are millions of people who have their own peesonal astes, likes and dislikes, anyone in the public eye knows what you do will never win everyone over and is that even their goal to do that? I don't think Kate has ever made it out she is trying to win...so not sure why you and others turn it into a competition

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I'm not sure what you mean.

I don't think it's a competition. "Can't win" I was using to mean "can't do anything right" maybe I was using the first phrase incorrectly and have caused confusion.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/09/2024 18:41

An earlier announcement would have stopped the rumours which I am sure were a lot more damaging to their children

Sounds like wishful thinking to me, @exprecis
I stopped posting while HQ allowed the Kate threads to descend into a cesspit, but some of the rumours being spread had nothing to do with someone having been diagnosed with cancer - they were just a vile pile on with countless posters feeding off each other's lies

Never mind though; as MrsLeonFarrell accurately said it doubtless made for a lot of clicks, which will have pleased the advertisers

HamSad · 10/09/2024 18:58

Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 10/09/2024 17:28

Very OTT and paving the way for her to do far less in future.

She barely did anything before

User77655566 · 10/09/2024 19:05

InsolentNoise · 10/09/2024 11:36

Pathetic, tbh 😂
I have no interest in being subservient or sycophantic to a bunch of privileged people who have zero idea about life in the real world.
I’m sure your pal, Kate, didn’t have to worry about loss of earnings or childcare whilst attending appointments/resting/recovering etc.
Y’know, like us ordinary people would?

I wish her the same for everyone going through cancer but I am certainly not bowing and scraping before her, like you.

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😂 HTH

Toastbuttermarmaladetea · 10/09/2024 19:05

Let's not forget that, before she told the world she had cancer, Catherine had serious abdominal surgery. Many posters, including some still posting on this board, took the opportunity to put the boot into her, her family, her marriage, her children, her looks and her raison d'être when they already knew she was ill. Those voices have now come back in all their ghoulish glory to try to finish what they started. At least MN has taken some action and zapped at least one vile thread full of bile and medical misinformation. Maybe be a bit more like Meghan's grandmother: if you can't say anything nice about a cancer sufferer, stfu.

thecrossiamwearing · 10/09/2024 20:49

@MrsLeonFarrell 😂 I knew exactly what you meant by saying " Kate can't win." It's very revealing when misinterpreted in a different way 😉

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 20:53

thecrossiamwearing · 10/09/2024 20:49

@MrsLeonFarrell 😂 I knew exactly what you meant by saying " Kate can't win." It's very revealing when misinterpreted in a different way 😉

I don't mind discussing though and clarifying The poster I was replying to is an established name who I may disagree with sometimes but I don't remember taking part in the nasty posts earlier this year.

Disagreeing agreeably is I think good for any discussion forum.

thecrossiamwearing · 10/09/2024 20:57

I have to agree 💯 with you @MrsLeonFarrell. I too criticise Meghan and Harry because I detest liars and shit stirrers. This criticism is based on facts. There is no way that this compares to saying that Meghan looks a mess in such and such an outfit ( after all we all have different tastes when it comes to styles and jewellery). The obvious joy that certain posters relished earlier in the year about Kate's illness was on an unbelievable scale. It was relentless and covered a host of different disgusting manufactured " reasons". You have to pity people who feel like that.

Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 10/09/2024 21:03

MrsLeonFarrell · 10/09/2024 17:34

So to summarise:

Catherine was wrong to release an initial statement because it wasn't detailed enough.

She was wrong to release a video because she should have just produced a statement.

She is wrong to take her children to the beach and play in the woods because not everyone has access to the beach or the woods.

She is wrong to talk about her experience of cancer because she has money.

She should be working with cancer charities already because she has experience of cancer and can help people by talking about it.

It's fine to be critical because she is royal and should do everything the way people want her to at all times, even though no one agrees on what she should do.

But above all let's forget that social media and forums were happy to circulate vile lies about her and her family because it created clicks. After all she is royal so is fair game and her children wouldn't affected if she had just done everything perfectly (see above).

Or a more balanced view might be that the PR professionals engaged by the RF are not currently very good.

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Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 10/09/2024 21:28

Toastbuttermarmaladetea · 10/09/2024 19:05

Let's not forget that, before she told the world she had cancer, Catherine had serious abdominal surgery. Many posters, including some still posting on this board, took the opportunity to put the boot into her, her family, her marriage, her children, her looks and her raison d'être when they already knew she was ill. Those voices have now come back in all their ghoulish glory to try to finish what they started. At least MN has taken some action and zapped at least one vile thread full of bile and medical misinformation. Maybe be a bit more like Meghan's grandmother: if you can't say anything nice about a cancer sufferer, stfu.

This is getting a little hysterical I think.

The majority of posters are critiquing a video and a poor PR strategy; and at the same time they are wishing Catherine and her family well, as they would any other person going through such an awful illness.

Can you not see that it is possible to do both in good faith because that is what you genuinely think?

As Spectre8 pointed out, this isn’t some sort of simplistic competition. Individuals posters are allowed a different take on what they see and should be allowed the freedom to express their views without constantly being accused of nastiness or without being lumped in with a group of ghouls thank you very much.

Blueroses99 · 10/09/2024 21:29

Papergirl1968 · 10/09/2024 17:56

Er, my bit of the West Midlands is approx 95 miles from the coast (Clevedon, north of Weston-Super-Mare). Weston is about 110 miles. I’ve been to Weston and it’s rathr muddy beach. Not been to Clevedon but I understand it’s basically Bristol Channel/Severn estuary.
I wish we had the sea on our doorstep.

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It’s one of those ‘facts’ that have stuck with me from school days though I seem to have misremembered as apparently Ordinance Survey have established that the most inland point is 70 miles (not 60) from the coast.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/3090539.stm

From W Mids you may have to measure to east coast or west coast (across Wales) rather than south.

BBC NEWS | England | Derbyshire | The farm furthest from the sea

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/3090539.stm

Toastbuttermarmaladetea · 10/09/2024 21:36

As Spectre8 pointed out, this isn’t some sort of simplistic competition. Individuals posters are allowed a different take on what they see and should be allowed the freedom to express their views without constantly being accused of nastiness or without being lumped in with a group of ghouls thank you very much.

I don't have any respect for the opinions of that poster. And spare me the hypocrisy; considering the insults being hurled at anyone supporting Catherine's choices of how to communicate about her illnesses, your complaints are hollow.

Papergirl1968 · 10/09/2024 21:39

I wonder if that’s as the crow flies though, @Blueroses99
Sorry, didn’t mean to derail the thread, just wished we were closer to the sea. As it is, Weston, Llandudno, Blackpool etc are do-able for a day trip but it makes for a long, tiring day out.

Tomorrowjustyouwaitandsee · 10/09/2024 21:42

Toastbuttermarmaladetea · 10/09/2024 21:36

As Spectre8 pointed out, this isn’t some sort of simplistic competition. Individuals posters are allowed a different take on what they see and should be allowed the freedom to express their views without constantly being accused of nastiness or without being lumped in with a group of ghouls thank you very much.

I don't have any respect for the opinions of that poster. And spare me the hypocrisy; considering the insults being hurled at anyone supporting Catherine's choices of how to communicate about her illnesses, your complaints are hollow.

Oh dear.

It really is impossible to have an objective sensible discussion on the RF threads I’m afraid.

Spectre8 · 10/09/2024 21:48

Toastbuttermarmaladetea · 10/09/2024 21:36

As Spectre8 pointed out, this isn’t some sort of simplistic competition. Individuals posters are allowed a different take on what they see and should be allowed the freedom to express their views without constantly being accused of nastiness or without being lumped in with a group of ghouls thank you very much.

I don't have any respect for the opinions of that poster. And spare me the hypocrisy; considering the insults being hurled at anyone supporting Catherine's choices of how to communicate about her illnesses, your complaints are hollow.

Oh dear you don't respect me...ah well I don't care. It's my opinion 🤷 I don't care if people like it or not, respect it or not or anything else. I'm not here to win a popularity contest so it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about my opinions or comments on an online discussion. 😜