Meghans trademark not allowed

[Viviennemary]

The patent office apparently has turned down the trademark of Meghans new jam making business American Riviera Orchard on the grounds that you can't trademark geographical locations. You would have thought somebody would have picked up on this before now.

I think it is very telling that on the morning of HMTQ death OW hastility set up an interview with Gayle King to talk directly about the 'bombshell interview' claiming she had zero clue what would be said. OW motive was clearly to distance herself from M&H on that day and align herself with the sentiment of the rest of the world who recognised the integrity of a significant world leader. See on YouTude. OW is totally disingenuos she groomed them for years and had no moral backbone to edit or release content when HMTQ husband of 70 years lay dying in hospital. She is quite dispicable and believed she got what she wanted commercially 'the scoop of the century' at any cost - but to watch her squirm and back track on the day after HMTQ death was even worse. She has since pulled the interview from the internet.

Their London PR hire is obviously smashing their targets .... the DM must be amused that they can sit back with their feet up nowadays whilst the H&M PR team come running with content. Their has clearly been an uptick in H&M content for the last few weeks......probs with a few objectives;

1. to temp check where PH stands on a return to RF duties / UK presence
2. to fill the void and distract from the non delivery of all of the 'lots on the slate' that hasnt materialised
3. to create a separation of MM profile and that of PH
4. to distract from any 'trouble in paradise'
5. to set the scene for PHs upcoming star studded 40th B day celebrations

I thought that video was a bit perfume ad y but not my choice . It shows she is getting better ( and on any level I am glad about a young mother recovering after chemotherapy with her family. ) Also it will stop I hope a lot of discussion about having the directly in line ( or spouse ) not back in the game.

Hard to upstage that one H&M. 😏

It won't be long I'm sure

Haha yes 😁

Nearly 1M in views and only 2.6k likes.

Not sure if this is normal for NF tweets, but it's certainly...proving divisive.

OW is been KNOWN to be disingenuous for years. From being close mates with Jeffrey Epstein to making celebrities like Cindy Crawford 'feel like chattel' to forcing a clearly vulnerable Mary Kate Olsen to talk in gory detail about her severe eating disorder to her cynical selling of various rapid weight loss gimmicks.

In the case of H&M she wans't interested in doing a proper journalistic interview (because she's not a journalist). She just wanted to manipulate their answers to get the most controversial viral soundbites possible.

Meghan is wise to the manipulative ways of Hollywood so knew what was happening. But Harry, who is naive to Hollywood ways, was done up like a kipper. You can see it in the interview where he is clearly manipulated into saying things he didn't mean to say (he's not bright so it wasn't particulaly hard for OW to do this, like Bashir did to Diana who for all her talents was also not the greatest intellect in the room). Then Harry had to spend the next few months trying to walk it all back.

He was truly, truly done up like a kipper and he must have been so upset when he finally figured that out.

As contrived as Kate’s video is, it is very wholesome. It’s her video, her voice, it’s about what’s important to her… her family, her children, her husband, her parents, it’s a message about family, love, support,happiness and taking joy in the simple things in life, like nature, spending time together.

in contrast harry and Megan just look grubby. Grasping and grubby. The Netflix trailer is another own goal. A result for Netflix. Let’s face it. It would never have got a million views otherwise. But very bad publicity for Harry as it looks like the same old grubby behaviour. Trying to leap frog on Kate’s end of chemo message to promote your show, is as grubby as it gets.

i suspect it will be one of those series’s. Where folks have a look at the first episode and don’t go back for a second episode. Maybe don’t even make it all the way through the first. And Harry and Netflix know it. Harry needs it to be a success, as it looks like game over with Netflix. And if the rumours are right that the focus groups didn’t engage, then he’s in trouble.

I just don't understand who the target viewership is for this. Polo is a super-elite sport. Only a tiny number of the super privileged will ever play it.

The only thing I know about polo is posh people play it and there's controversy in amateur polo about how the horses are treated as they have to run straight at each other and can end up ridden too hard and highly stressed.

Netflix should just do a series about the joys of posh folks fox hunting and just be done with it 😂I just don't understand who would want to watch it

I think a lot of people will be initially curious. Likely as it’s Harry and Megan. All the horsey folks, which there are very many. It doesn’t mean they will make it through the first episode or watch a second. I mean I will consider having a look, but can’t imagine devoting multiple hours to it,

Yeh I agree, there will prob be a few on the first episode then it will drop off. There won’t be a
second series.
Im guessing they were trying to copy the F1 series….but that not going to be possible

They should have made the series about buzkashi, the version of polo that's the national sport of Afghanistan (so still a Harry connection). It's played with a dead goat instead of a ball, games used to go on for several days, and the size of the pitch varies according to the number of people on each team. That would be more interesting than a bunch of toffs with mallets.

I agree that it will get some curiosity clicks, but I can't see it attracting a sustained audience.

Polo is very much a niche sport, and also has a terrible reputation for animal cruelty and environmental damage. What would Travalyst say? It will be fun to watch all the 'squaddies' pretending they have always been huge fans of this highly elitist and wasteful sport.

God, yes. It was painful reading their posts about Invictus in Canada pretending they knew the competitors and acting as if the Games - worthy as they are - are on the same level as the Olympic Games. Incidentally do all these superfans watch the Paralympics?

As for Polo - I bet some of the most vocal on here will be mugging up on the rules and players so they can post reams of guff about the thing.

I also really don't see the polo series being a success, as others have said, curiosity watch first episode perhaps but then? The Beckham docu was a success because people feel a lot of investment in them and in football and it crosses generations. Both of them have been around a long time, are self made and despite some mistakes generally inspire affection. Whatever the squad say, I don't believe H &M have much relevance to "youth" at all and polo is inarguably elitist. It has the potential to backfire horribly actually, when it becomes clear to the casual viewer exactly how elitist.

There is so much content on streamed media now that it must be difficult to come up with a winning formula, but this is surely not it.

Jilly Cooper's "Rivals" dramatisation is getting a fair bit of publicity; perhaps H&M should have got involved with producing the follow-up "Polo" instead of a documentary about the game.
There's even a minor character in it called Victor Kaputnik. He's bald but I think his toupee is ginger and he's married to an actress.
There are obviously differences: his wife stars in porn films, he wears lifts which I'm sure Harry wouldn't, and he's very successful in his business, but a few tweaks (not of the nipple variety) could make him more like Harry.

Wh - wh - what now??

Polo played over several days with a dead goat has me feeling like I'm hallucinating more than Hazza when he pops his ayahuasca (medicinally of course).

Realistically in a hot country and being kicked about there's not gonna be much left of the goat after a couple days is there. Ewwww.

It’s really just Netflix fulfilling their contractual obligations at this point.

Thats a show for December and the cooking show may be summer next year (?). We haven’t heard anything about the film or the Miss Havesham programme or anything else for that matter. That then quickly takes us to Sept next year when I cannot see them being kept on

The Obama’s production company which has been successful for Netflix, they got another deal but it wasn’t quite as amazing as their first deal.

So I can’t see Netflix keeping them on. I think Netflix have done the Royal thing now. They’ve had The Crown, they’ve done the M&H docu, there’s nothing really left. Unless they decide to do a reality tv series …then it’s curtains

Leaving aside ethical issues, polo isn’t even an interesting sport for the casual viewer (I can’t see that it’s interesting for anyone, but horses for courses (!) and all that). There’s no spectacle, tension or allegiance to be exploited. So far as I know there isn’t any crowd atmosphere either. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a report of a polo match or league in any newspaper.

And it doesn’t have any appeal of exoticism or novelty, as would horse sport in Afghanistan (as a pp said), Mongolia or somewhere else unusual for westerners.

The only curiosity factor would be the lives of the wealthy who are on the polo scene. Like Dubai Bling but with reins and stirrups. That would be a very crass subject for the Sussexes to be linked to.

Perhaps I’m overestimating H&M’s sense of dignity and self-awareness.

Apart from the usual sycophantic People and Harper’s Bazaar, I can’t see any news or media coverage of the Netflix announcement. It could be that this has been a bad move in more ways than just how bad it makes them look. It seems that they just can’t compete. They are no longer in the same league as the Wales Family.
Harry and Meghan’s PR are overexposing them massively so there is a level of fatigue and people in general are fed up of hearing about them. Along with the fact that many here have already pointed out, it’s a niche and elitist sport that is in no way mainstream. Unlike F1, that is also elitist but has a huge following worldwide. I think there is going to be little interest and viewership.
I do agree that there could be some initial curiosity though.

I also think Meghan is aware that Netflix won’t renew the deal. I don’t know how far in advance you have negotiation talks about deals, but I’m guessing they already have a feel that Netflix are likely to step away.

That’s why I think the big PR push for rebranding Meghan as on her next chapter…full of joy. So that even when she’s dropped…the image will be Meghan is having a great time being super grateful for all she has. It’s also why we are hearing about her investments and ARO.

Otherwise why wouldn’t WME be putting out puff pieces about actors that are ‘desperate’ to be in their films, or Harry taking an interest in the technical side of production….just any sort of rubbish to bring attention to their production company. But we aren’t hearing anything. Except crickets.

H&M are over the production stuff, over the podcast stuff. As usual, rushing in, no skills or talent in the area then back out and move on to the next grift.

I suspect Archewell will put out that they achieved what they set out to 5 years ago and are moving onto a new chapter (closing down Archewell productions) and M&H are focused on pursuing individual projects close to their hearts.

I suspect over this year….a lot of staff will leave the Archewell production arm of Archewell before Netflix officially drops them.

This is the mission statement from Archewell productions

dedicated to illuminating thought-provoking and diverse narratives that underscore our common humanity and celebrate community

ehhh…so they made an elitist Polo show?

I wonder how they’ll spin it @Twistybranch? Maybe the usual line of
“It was a mutual decision to end the Netflix contract because they weren’t the right fit”! 😂

Yes @MummyJ12

and People will have the exclusive on it!

Yes, I think the best chance of success would be a 'lifestyles of the rich and famous' sort of thing. Problem is, polo players are not famous. Most people couldn't name a single one and aren't going to follow an entire series about them. The whole thing, especially given the concerns over the environmental impact and the treatment of the horses, is just so tacky and also hardly in keeping with what 'Archewell' claims to represent.

Also, it's streaming in December, when it will be up against all the Christmas specials. Who's going to sit and watch a full series about a rich person's sport played by people they've never heard of?