Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Meghans trademark not allowed

1000 replies

Viviennemary · 03/09/2024 17:09

The patent office apparently has turned down the trademark of Meghans new jam making business American Riviera Orchard on the grounds that you can't trademark geographical locations. You would have thought somebody would have picked up on this before now.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
44
SonicTheHodgeheg · 06/09/2024 15:24

Gossip sites claim that the cooking show has been filmed but NF are sitting on it because focus groups didn’t rate what they saw. It’s apparently slated for a possible release next May but as that’s close to the contract end, both sides might prefer to sell it to a new company for broadcast. I’ve not seen any comments about the polo show. If Harry has managed to travel to places like Australia and nothing has leaked then he should be pleased about that from a security mindset.

What age are we calling young? Blake Lively and Chrissy Teigen sold their ranges in Target (I believe that the BL shampoos are $19.99 which is a young person price) but I can’t see Meghan going down that route. (Flashbacks to the reactions of Fergie on QVC)

Abouttimeforanamechange · 06/09/2024 15:29

Why would anyone part with their money for a face cream from someone who is only really known for marrying a prince and then running out of royal life?

Face cream sold by Meghan? Um, no thanks. I'd be wondering what Harry was using it for.

Sandwichgen · 06/09/2024 15:31

He should bring out a todger cream. It might do quite well as a gag sticking filler

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 15:44

SonicTheHodgeheg · 06/09/2024 15:24

Gossip sites claim that the cooking show has been filmed but NF are sitting on it because focus groups didn’t rate what they saw. It’s apparently slated for a possible release next May but as that’s close to the contract end, both sides might prefer to sell it to a new company for broadcast. I’ve not seen any comments about the polo show. If Harry has managed to travel to places like Australia and nothing has leaked then he should be pleased about that from a security mindset.

What age are we calling young? Blake Lively and Chrissy Teigen sold their ranges in Target (I believe that the BL shampoos are $19.99 which is a young person price) but I can’t see Meghan going down that route. (Flashbacks to the reactions of Fergie on QVC)

If the cooking show has already been filmed, why would NF sit on it for a whole year? It's not like they have to fit it into a schedule as they're a streamer. Also, early summer would seem like an odd time to release a cooking show. Then again, I also heard it was going to appear round about now, along with 'ARO', as well as early next year. So I think people are just guessing, in the absence of any official announcements.

As for your other point, I think most successful 'celebrity' brands have a tie in with an established retailer and don't depend on online sales alone. I'm not sure any mainstream retailer would want to get involved with this mess.

Serenster · 06/09/2024 15:58

Trademarking is always difficult eg Kim K couldn’t trademark Kimono and changed it to Skims.

Not true. Kim had trademarked Kimono without a problem, but she faced a PR storm of backlash for cultural appropriation of important Japanese traditions when she launched her shapewear under that name.

That was the reason for the name change (in truth, if Skims was the B option, I think it was a much better name).

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jul/01/our-traditional-garment-is-not-spandex-kim-kardashian-west-renames-brand-amid-outcry#:~:text=Kardashian%20West%2C%2038%2C%20drew%20accusations,she%20was%20changing%20the%20name.

#KimOhNo: Kim Kardashian West renames Kimono brand amid outcry

Reality TV star had drawn widespread criticism from critics accusing her of disrespecting Japanese culture

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jul/01/our-traditional-garment-is-not-spandex-kim-kardashian-west-renames-brand-amid-outcry#:~:text=Kardashian%20West%2C%2038%2C%20drew%20accusations,she%20was%20changing%20the%20name.

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/09/2024 16:12

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 15:12

That's not an official NF page!

There has been no mention of these alleged 'shows' in the 'coming soon' page on the official NF site. Nor have they made any announcements on any of their social media. So, no, NF have not confirmed the existence of the 'cooking show'.

It doesn't really matter what 'Archewell' says. NF are the ones who decide if they will stream the shows or not.

Look at the full url

The page is on netflix.com - it's announcements/chat but within the main Netflix site.

What we haven't seen is any progress on either project since April, apart from vague statements earlier this summer that filming had concluded. If that's true, what is the typical length of time from completion of filming to a finished show being ready to air?

BunnyLake · 06/09/2024 16:33

Twistybranch · 06/09/2024 15:15

All lifestyle brands have to feel authentic.

Jennifer garner, has just done an AD tour of her new home. She’s very wholesome and it’s obvious she loves to cook, she even had a baking station put in her kitchen. This is the type of person that people want to follow. She’s A list, likeable and is known to love cooking. She also appeared on the Barefoot contessa …though strangely they made English crispies ….you know the chocolate covered cornflake nests a we make as kids? Odd, but she was lovely and listened to Ina’s every expert word.

This is the type of person who people want to follow. Her AD video has already racked up millions in just a few days, way more than other celebs get. If she ever decides to go down this lifestyle route, it would be a smash.

Meghan doesn’t have this natural way about her. The Cut interview highlighted this when the writer claimed she had a producer from The Bachelor in her ear at all times, because of the odd way she interacts with people. This I suspect will come across on camera too. She also has not filmed the show in her home, it won’t feel authentic at all.

Im sure if she does sell products through ARO , initially it will be very successful but she’s too a divisive figure to sustain a business long term.
Can you imagine the headlines if there is a bad batch of jam, or late deliveries or negative review bombing. It’s a novelty business at best. If she’s smart she should treat it like a pop up shop and just try and get as much money out if the first run as possible. In quick and out quick, otherwise it will be a disaster.

As for the cooking show, it’s such a hard market to crack. If it airs, it will be a one series programme. Netflix commissions in the basis of pulling people in, once people have seen the show once or twice, then the numbers will fall. Look at the Archtypes podcasts…initially huge numbers then as time went on they completely dropped off. She will pull in huge numbers esp 1( I would def watch) but the numbers would steeply fall. But at least she will get some more Netflix money before the deal runs out.

Edited

I saw that. Jennifer’s home is lovely and she seems really nice too.

IsoldeWagner · 06/09/2024 16:37

GiveMeSpanakopita · 06/09/2024 08:47

Thing is, it's easy to laugh at passages like that, or the one about him putting his mum's brand of face cream on his willy.

But look at it through the lens of a psychotherapist or a drugs counsellor and you get a very different picture.

The book's a disaster really. It reveals Harry as a deeply damaged, angry, spiteful and arrogant person. And that's AFTER it's been through the stringent filter of a professional ghostwriter. God only knows what the original transcripts were like.

I found it quite dark really.

The ghostwriter wrote an account; there was some stuff he didn't put in, because it clearly wasn't true and Harry got angry. He said it took months because Harry learned and worked "at a glacial pace".
I think Moehringer did what he could with some fairly stupid, ludicrous and exaggerated raw material.

thecrossIambearing · 06/09/2024 16:40

Duchess Meghan 😂 those two words make me laugh so much !

Rumshotsandrainshowers · 06/09/2024 16:43

I think if they’ve made the shows and I think they have, they will air. It will be once and done , never to be repeated end of contract,game over. I also read, but not blind, that the focus groups reactions were poor, people didn’t engage with the shows. And Netflix will know what they are doing here,

as aro is dead, then she can’t link to it. I don’t think they can come back from this.

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 16:47

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/09/2024 16:12

Look at the full url

The page is on netflix.com - it's announcements/chat but within the main Netflix site.

What we haven't seen is any progress on either project since April, apart from vague statements earlier this summer that filming had concluded. If that's true, what is the typical length of time from completion of filming to a finished show being ready to air?

It's basically a 'fan' site. It is not the place to find official announcements of upcoming shows. To repeat, no such official announcement exists. Neither 'show' has an IMDB page, an official name, or a release date. The 'shows' may or may not be in production, but NF has not confirmed their existence.

The 'cooking show', if it exists, should be fairly quick and easy to produce so I don't understand why there would be a big delay between filming and streaming. Maybe it's true that test audience reactions were unfavourable? Or that could be just another rumour.

Septemberbluesagain · 06/09/2024 16:47

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 06/09/2024 16:50

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 15:44

If the cooking show has already been filmed, why would NF sit on it for a whole year? It's not like they have to fit it into a schedule as they're a streamer. Also, early summer would seem like an odd time to release a cooking show. Then again, I also heard it was going to appear round about now, along with 'ARO', as well as early next year. So I think people are just guessing, in the absence of any official announcements.

As for your other point, I think most successful 'celebrity' brands have a tie in with an established retailer and don't depend on online sales alone. I'm not sure any mainstream retailer would want to get involved with this mess.

Maybe Meghan doesn’t want it released in its current state? She has a lot riding on this and even though she acts like she doesn’t care, she is human.

Apparently the cooking show isn’t on Netflix internal documents that list up to March 2025 releases which may be where May comes from.

The cooking show can’t be released until the merchandise is ready and even if she has a Nigerian and Colombian small business ready to go with a special item , that’s not going to cut it. (The trips to those countries would have been perfect to source something from a small supplier for ARO)

IsoldeWagner · 06/09/2024 16:52

Oh, I so want to see that cooking show! You just know that it's going to be unintentionally hilarious 😂

Twistybranch · 06/09/2024 16:53

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Do you think Megsy will have a recipe that we can use for the egg on our face?

Fingers crossed we won’t have to wait for the cooking show to tell us, otherwise we will be waiting a long time 🤞

IsoldeWagner · 06/09/2024 16:55

Treated her "with degradation" 😂😂😂

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/09/2024 17:18

Sandwichgen · 06/09/2024 13:17

Here's a thought:

If Meghan had remained Harry's girlfriend, they didn't marry, but meanwhile she'd been seen with him at QEII's funeral, Charles' coronation, loads of other stuff, would it have catapulted her higher up the showbiz ladder ? It's what she originally wanted out of life, and she probably had the street smarts to capitalise on it rather than flailing about being a fish out of water as a royal/ex royal

You don't get a lucrative divorce settlement and opportunities for a very high profile glorified Kiss and Tell by just being a girlfriend.

And you don't have the cachet of being a royal wife with a royal wedding, royal tours, children being Prince and Princess etc etc. Being a royal wife, even on the outside, brings massive privilege that being just a girlfriend doesn't. And you can leave whenever you want.

BunnyLake · 06/09/2024 17:31

smilesy · 06/09/2024 14:09

Nah. Harry wanted a family. A part time girlfriend wasn’t on the cards. And I suspect Meghan was keen to get a ring on it anyway

I mean from Meghan’s pov. She would have, in hindsight, been better off being his ‘serious’ girlfriend for a couple of years and then leaving him. I agreed with pp who suggested this scenario,

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/09/2024 17:34

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 16:47

It's basically a 'fan' site. It is not the place to find official announcements of upcoming shows. To repeat, no such official announcement exists. Neither 'show' has an IMDB page, an official name, or a release date. The 'shows' may or may not be in production, but NF has not confirmed their existence.

The 'cooking show', if it exists, should be fairly quick and easy to produce so I don't understand why there would be a big delay between filming and streaming. Maybe it's true that test audience reactions were unfavourable? Or that could be just another rumour.

Yes, I get that it's chat.

But it's hosted on the Netflix official website and is an avowed official partner

And would Netflix allow content they knew to be untrue be published by its official partner on its own website? Really?

(Contrast with Meet Me At The Lake - nothing, rumoured Miss Havisham/Bad Manners - nothing)

Lack of further updates, or information on imdb, on either show just indicates that there is clearly some way to go before anything is ready.

Serenster · 06/09/2024 17:38

And would Netflix allow content they knew to be untrue be published by its official partner on its own website? Really?

Yes. Netflix is not going to employ someone to fact check every post on that site!

Americanpseudoroyaltorture · 06/09/2024 17:43

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

When there's no good counter argument, always revert to the greatest hits.

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 17:43

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/09/2024 17:34

Yes, I get that it's chat.

But it's hosted on the Netflix official website and is an avowed official partner

And would Netflix allow content they knew to be untrue be published by its official partner on its own website? Really?

(Contrast with Meet Me At The Lake - nothing, rumoured Miss Havisham/Bad Manners - nothing)

Lack of further updates, or information on imdb, on either show just indicates that there is clearly some way to go before anything is ready.

Whether the rather vague information is 'true' or not is not my point.

You challenged my claim that NF have never confirmed the existence of either of the alleged 'shows'. But what I wrote is correct. There has been no official announcement from NF.

Maybe either or both shoes is in production. Maybe either or both will appear on NF. But given the Sussexes' history of projects which failed to launch, it seems reasonable to be sceptical.

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/09/2024 17:53

IcedPurple · 06/09/2024 17:43

Whether the rather vague information is 'true' or not is not my point.

You challenged my claim that NF have never confirmed the existence of either of the alleged 'shows'. But what I wrote is correct. There has been no official announcement from NF.

Maybe either or both shoes is in production. Maybe either or both will appear on NF. But given the Sussexes' history of projects which failed to launch, it seems reasonable to be sceptical.

I share your scepticism about whether either will emerge!

I take the hosting of the statement about the shows on the Netflix site to be adequate endorsement.
(Especially given the absence of anything on cancelled shows, or ones which don't seem to be doing anything)

I think the shows are under development, that they are part of the Archewell/Netflix deal, and that they may or may not actually launch

Twistybranch · 06/09/2024 18:07

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/09/2024 17:34

Yes, I get that it's chat.

But it's hosted on the Netflix official website and is an avowed official partner

And would Netflix allow content they knew to be untrue be published by its official partner on its own website? Really?

(Contrast with Meet Me At The Lake - nothing, rumoured Miss Havisham/Bad Manners - nothing)

Lack of further updates, or information on imdb, on either show just indicates that there is clearly some way to go before anything is ready.

10/10 for effort

But people ain’t buying it

Twistybranch · 06/09/2024 18:08

Twistybranch · 06/09/2024 18:07

10/10 for effort

But people ain’t buying it

Sorry, ignore! Wrong reply

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.