Duke of Sussex : "potentially initiate a partial return to the royal fold"

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Duke of Sussex asks former aides to help plot RETURN from his US exile in first stage of 'rehabilitation' strategy: Prince's friends vow to help smooth path back and dub it 'Operation Bring Harry In From The Cold' | Daily Mail Online

After everything he has said and done........

^This

The extra £45m is to pay for the Buckingham Palace renovations, and was decided by the government, not the Royal Family.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c880mg120jjo.amp

The Sovereign Grant which covers the cost of the monarchy is usually 25% of the Crown Estate profits but this has been reduced to 12% because of the increase in anticipated income. That means the tax payer will be receiving 88% of net profits from the Crown Estate.

As usual, the headline doesn’t tell the full story!

He's vulnerable, hurt and traumatised because he lost his DM in a tragic accident when he was 12 years old. When something really traumatic happens to a DC, they can become sort of stuck at that stage of development and unable to move on. I once went out with a guy whose DM had died (cancer) when he was about the same age. The trauma was still really evident in the adult man. If you have kids, imagine them losing you at age 12 - it's really painful to even imagine. A DC of 12 needs their DM a huge amount and their sudden loss is devastating. I'm a huge critic of everything Harry has done since 2020, but in this regard I do think he's rather a tragic figure.

He’s supposed to have had therapy to help him deal with all that though. And William lost his mother too. Not everyone is defined by a childhood trauma. I suspect Harry would have turned out the same regardless of whether Diana died or not 🤷‍♀️

What nobody's addressed though is how this would work for Meghan and the children. I don't see her ever living in the UK again, so while it's not something I like to dwell on surely Harry moving back would mean a separation?

Meghan isn't mentioned at all and I don't think Meghan has any interest in ever setting foot in the UK again (she's too hated by too many people), so if this is true then it's all about Harry. Remember Meghan is living up the road from where she grew up. But it clearly says in the article that it's not about Harry moving back - it's about Harry being able to come and go happily and comfortably from his own country: But rather than secretly slipping in and out of the country, fugitive-like, as he does now, the hope is that Harry will be able to spend what the source called ‘quality time’ in the UK.

Yet Harry was brought up in a uniquely fucked up situation, suffered the sudden death of his mother in very traumatic circumstances and yet he gets a roasting for how he turned out. He’s a person full of adverse childhood experiences.

Unfortunately for this argument, Harry has a brother who was brought up in the same environment and also lost his mother, and yet is managing to live his life without trashing his family in public.

Therapy doesn't help everybody and William thinks therapy has done more harm than good with Harry. I know not everyone is defined by their childhood trauma, but the way Harry talks about his DM constantly I think it's fair enough to say that he is quite possibly defined by her loss and the impact that had on his life.

I thought this too!

Definitely agree they'll have realised their only real source of income is the family associations @smilesy, and I could easily see Charles being weak enough to allow some new version of half in/half out, but as we've seen there's already nothing to stop Harry coming and going as he pleases and the "security" claims have been trashed by his own choices

The real money shots would surely depend on him being seen to be welcomed by the family though, and I'm not sure how far they'd go in risking that, knowing that Meghan would be in his ear assessing every opportunity, influencing his choices and possibly even resenting him receiving advice from those she clearly detests

There's also what it might do to his mental state if he felt the family weren't serving him enough of the sausages fatted calf and he was missing his own family, but as ever time will tell

This.

I still can't believe what they impulsively threw away. For what? He probably sits around watching American television and playing with the kids. Bored and grumpy and burning through money like there is no tomorrow.

No one will ever trust hm again after Spare. He's done.

"Bored and grumpy and burning through money like there is no tomorrow".

Just like his dad then.

I think gossip is human nature. Some like it, some do not.
I’m not sure celebrities wouldn’t have any inclination to read the DM. They would be fools if they did.
Tiktok, like any other media outlet, has positives and negatives. I am more disturbed by people who don’t fact check and take things as gospel.
I admit I like a bit of gossip, I don’t take it as factual.

I don't disagree with this at all.

But, I also can't see how his therapy has actually benefitted him. He certainly presents as someone for whom therapy has not been particularly helpful.

But, to borrow the words of his mother - there were probably three people in the 'therapy relationship', not just two. And that is the problem.

I think it's only the assets belonging to the monarch that pass solely to the next heir. Other members that have money can leave it to whoever they like. William and Harry both inherited from Diana and I'm sure the QM left money to all the great-grandchildren. I'm sure I once read that Harry was left more than William because William would be King one day.

@QueenOfHiraeth - good piece of nanna wisdom. My nan used to say 'never wash your dirty knickers in public'. Harry has truly displayed all his dirty laundry for the world to see. I'm not surprised his brother can't bear to be around him....

I don't think Charles is bored - one of the things both his sons and his wife have mentioned over the years is that he's always working.

I think if therapy was going to help, it would have by now. Harry's 40 and sounds like he's had therapy for years.
Maybe he needs to find some other way of coping.
In the meantime, I don't think he's the best person to undertake royal duties which often involve talking to people probably a lot more vulnerable than he is.
I'm sure the RF don't want someone acting on their behalf asking "Have you given your prosthesis a name?" or, God forbid, Harry dolefully telling someone he's there to help that nobody's asked how he is.

To gather content for the next round of interviews? I wouldn't be able to forget what he's done.

I don't think Meghan has any interest in ever setting foot in the UK again (she's too hated by too many people)

Well, those people should ask themselves why they bother to invest so much negative emotion in someone they've never met and who impacts their life in no way whatsoever. I mean, she and Harry have behaved very badly towards both their families but they're not Putin or Trump.

Perhaps if they were to sign a NDA, Harry could serve the royal family in some way and Archie and Lilibet get to know their grandfather.

I'm looking forward to Kate feeling strong enough to return to the public eye - full of health, glamour and her joie de vivre and sense of duty. An antidote to the Sussexes and their supporters and their haters.

I remember reading somewhere that he played PlayStation for hours before he met Meghan.

He gets all the benefits of this situation, though, as does his son. It's easier to put up, shut up, and toe the line if the benefits are unlimited wealth for you and your family for the foreseeable future and an almost guaranteed top job not doing very much of much consequence. Harry, like all the 'spares fucked up by the Royal system only ever faced a life of becoming more and more irrelevant, scrabbling around for a role, relying on his dad, brother and possibly nephew for handouts. We don't need all these Royals, and this situation is part of the reason. The Royal role, titles etc should only be for the heir. The rest should be told from young that they will not be expected to work for the RF. Before anyone mentions Princess Anne, she was from a young age so far down the line of succession she knew she would have to make her own way. She had no choice but to jot have titles for her children because she was a woman. This should also apply to Louis as well as Charlotte. It should have been changed before Harry got married.

But it clearly says in the article that it's not about Harry moving back - it's about Harry being able to come and go happily and comfortably from his own country

There is absolutely nothing preventing him from doing that right now.

I guess to be comfortable he would need an apology so he could hold his head high.

I just cannot see that happening.

But why should they?

His behaviour towards them over the last four years has been atrocious. It's not like he's had one misguided lash out in the heat of the moment, he's slagged them off countless times, given away private family information and made some extremely damaging accusations when he knows they won't publicly contradict him. And he's not once accepted any fault or wrongdoing on his part, or apologised for his behaviour.

Now it seems like he might be starting to regret some of his choices, the family should forgive and forget, and welcome him back with open arms?

For what it's worth I think the family might be prepared to forgive him in time, but for that to happen I think he would need to let go of all his bitterness, resentment and entitlement, genuinely apologise for his behaviour and work hard to make amends. And I just can't see that happening. Harry wants everything to be on his terms and I don't think he's got the emotional maturity or intellect to self reflect and understand this.

And even if the RF did forgive him privately, I can't see him ever returning to his previous position, even if he did return to the U.K. full time in future. He's burned too many bridges to become an official representative of this country again.

Funny how he's coming crawling back now he's running out of money..... I wouldn't trust him. He totally savaged the royal family. What's to say he won't do the same again