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GorgeousTulips · 05/09/2024 09:04

Thebellofstclements · 05/09/2024 08:51

Did he grow up feeling second best? He always seemed to be having a great time, free of the responsibilities that William will have. The second best issue has only cropped up since Megan arrived and seemed rather put out that Harry wasn't likely to be King and that they have to defer to the Wales family. Harry seemed absolutely fine with it before that.

How thick would you have to be not to realise the monarchy has a hierarchy and is hereditary?

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/09/2024 09:11

Ellerby83 · 05/09/2024 08:51

Must be weird being married to an actor, you would never know whether they are being genuine

You don’t need acting training to fake emotions. It’s actually the complete opposite and not weird at all. Acting training is all about releasing the self and being the person you’re portraying otherwise you would not be believable. Meghan seems false because she watches herself. She hasn’t learned to let go. This is big no no in acting.

Petlover9 · 05/09/2024 09:12

Imanontoday · 05/09/2024 08:17

I suspect that was rooted in she didn’t want to do it. The sort of petty rebellion and complaint made when you don’t want to do something. She only wanted to do the glamourous stuff that she decided she wished to do. She knew they were paid another way. I think Charles gave them 3 million a year, frogmore fully renovated was being provided, full security. I mean they had everything they needed. And more.

Nothing was enough for Megsie, she is greedy, grabby and self important, a narcissist with huge delusions of grandeur. I would love to know what Anne (in private) had to say about her behaviour . She may even have told her to "naff off".😁

BunnyLake · 05/09/2024 09:16

smilesy · 05/09/2024 08:13

I find it telling that she reportedly couldn’t believe that she wasn’t getting paid for public appearances when on tour etc. She actually didn’t seem to realise that she didn’t need to be paid because being part of the RF transcends all that. It is a key that opens many doors, giving access to things money cannot buy. For some reason she seemed to want to downgrade this to getting a wage 🤷‍♀️

Because she’s not as bright as she’d like us to think she is. Doesn’t she realise that money is just a bartering tool, it has no value in itself. Being in the RF is like having one giant solid gold coin that buys you, or gives you, access to pretty much whatever you want. On top of that particular privilege they were still getting actual cash from KC.

SadOrWickedFairy · 05/09/2024 09:41

I may be remembering incorrectly but wasn't there an interview early on where Harry and Meghan were enthusing about how they were going to change and modernise the Royal Family, going to sweep away a lot of the restrictions and traditions and how Meghan was the ideal and only person who would be able to do this and that the public and everyone would absolutely love and adore them for doing so? They were going to show the rest of the Royal Family how it should be done.

I think Meghan thought that the Royal Family would be, or should be, American President, particularly the JFK era, like.

Imanontoday · 05/09/2024 09:45

SadOrWickedFairy · 05/09/2024 09:41

I may be remembering incorrectly but wasn't there an interview early on where Harry and Meghan were enthusing about how they were going to change and modernise the Royal Family, going to sweep away a lot of the restrictions and traditions and how Meghan was the ideal and only person who would be able to do this and that the public and everyone would absolutely love and adore them for doing so? They were going to show the rest of the Royal Family how it should be done.

I think Meghan thought that the Royal Family would be, or should be, American President, particularly the JFK era, like.

Yes harry said that, that Megan was going to revitalise it, show them how it was done and throw out all the old ways, which apparently was basically monetise it.

SadOrWickedFairy · 05/09/2024 09:48

Thanks Imanontoday.

Hughs · 05/09/2024 09:55

There was also the "we're single-handedly modernising the monarchy" moment, bit of a slap in the face for the Queen I thought 😬

They also said at that time that the palace team didn't understand how to "harness their value" 🤦‍♀️

Originally in the telegraph but here's the Mail because it's free

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600917/amp/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-say-modernised-monarchy.html

Baital · 05/09/2024 10:01

'harness their value' 😂

I think think their 'value' has become very obvious, and the Palace team got it spot on!

SidekickSylvia · 05/09/2024 10:07

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/09/2024 09:11

You don’t need acting training to fake emotions. It’s actually the complete opposite and not weird at all. Acting training is all about releasing the self and being the person you’re portraying otherwise you would not be believable. Meghan seems false because she watches herself. She hasn’t learned to let go. This is big no no in acting.

Yes, everything she does looks contrived and you don't get that impression with someone who can act.

Imanontoday · 05/09/2024 10:10

BunnyLake · 05/09/2024 09:16

Because she’s not as bright as she’d like us to think she is. Doesn’t she realise that money is just a bartering tool, it has no value in itself. Being in the RF is like having one giant solid gold coin that buys you, or gives you, access to pretty much whatever you want. On top of that particular privilege they were still getting actual cash from KC.

This is a very key point. You have to be smart , skilled and very talented to achieve what they set out to achieve, creating content is a congested market. And you have to be willing to graft. And if you’re going to employ people to do what you can’t, then treat tnem with respect.

they have none of this, they aren’t bright, they didn’t want to graft. They don’t treat people with respect. They aren’t skilled and they have no talent. Meghan is arguably a good actress, but that is an irrelevant skillset here.

what was it a former employee said, they seemed very surprised anyone expected them to actually work?

yhey were both so out of their depth, and five years later , still are, look at the mess of aro. That brand is dead, it can’t be used.they killed it before it even started due to complete ineptitude.

JSMill · 05/09/2024 10:11

Hughs · 05/09/2024 09:55

There was also the "we're single-handedly modernising the monarchy" moment, bit of a slap in the face for the Queen I thought 😬

They also said at that time that the palace team didn't understand how to "harness their value" 🤦‍♀️

Originally in the telegraph but here's the Mail because it's free

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600917/amp/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-say-modernised-monarchy.html

Thanks for sharing that. The level of delusion is hilarious but it's also interesting to read the article when we now know how everything panned out. It also shows what hypocrites they are to complain of leaking and briefing by the grey suits when they were doing exactly that. They did the RF a massive favour in leaving. They are a pair of spoiled brats who were incapable of serving in the RF.

Imanontoday · 05/09/2024 10:31

Hughs · 05/09/2024 09:55

There was also the "we're single-handedly modernising the monarchy" moment, bit of a slap in the face for the Queen I thought 😬

They also said at that time that the palace team didn't understand how to "harness their value" 🤦‍♀️

Originally in the telegraph but here's the Mail because it's free

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7600917/amp/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-say-modernised-monarchy.html

That didn’t age well . And goes to show just what their mind set was from day 1.

it started before day 1. They were showing Oprah how small the little cottage was just before the wedding. Telling her how hard done by they were. And to be fair Oprah egged them on, I can’t believe they make you stay here, knowing what a scoop she was going to get. Good for her. She’s now distanced herself totally.

you can even see in that interview Oprah isn’t aligned, she’s letting them hang them selves, but the “what the fuck are you doing” is written all over her face at times during it. Especially on the skin colour segment. She’s not looking at them horrified the royal family would do what they are saying, she’s looking at them like they are the biggest fools to walk the planet.

SadOrWickedFairy · 05/09/2024 10:32

I struggle to articulate just how deluded, arrogant and so far up their own arses H&M are.

Thedom · 05/09/2024 10:41

Thebellofstclements · 05/09/2024 08:44

I suspect she's just a good actress; she always looks enthralled with everyone, which can't be the case. If she genuinely still thinks he's the bees knees, despite all evidence to the contrary, then she's deluded as well as enthralled.

There are some memes doing the rounds of her, even just the recent trip in Colombia, and she really cannot act out being enthralled with Harry (or anyone) at all, it seems like she has two different forced expressions and 'smile' which she relies on all the time, particularly when the camera is on her, it's actually amusing to see her putting on 'her face'.

I think she rarely has a genuine smile or expression.

SadOrWickedFairy · 05/09/2024 10:42

it started before day 1. They were showing Oprah how small the little cottage was just before the wedding. Telling her how hard done by they were. And to be fair Oprah egged them on, I can’t believe they make you stay here, knowing what a scoop she was going to get.

The small cottage that William and Catherine lived in from 2011 to 2013 and was George's first home.

Harry knew that post marriage they would be given a different residence, a large apartment in Kensington Palace was vacated in readiness for them, other properties on the Royal Estates were also being made available/offered.

They were not being treated any differently to William and Catherine.

coolmum123 · 05/09/2024 11:04

Imanontoday · 05/09/2024 10:10

This is a very key point. You have to be smart , skilled and very talented to achieve what they set out to achieve, creating content is a congested market. And you have to be willing to graft. And if you’re going to employ people to do what you can’t, then treat tnem with respect.

they have none of this, they aren’t bright, they didn’t want to graft. They don’t treat people with respect. They aren’t skilled and they have no talent. Meghan is arguably a good actress, but that is an irrelevant skillset here.

what was it a former employee said, they seemed very surprised anyone expected them to actually work?

yhey were both so out of their depth, and five years later , still are, look at the mess of aro. That brand is dead, it can’t be used.they killed it before it even started due to complete ineptitude.

Meghan is arguably a good actress,

Personally I don't think she is. We watched Suits way before she became Harry's girlfriend - I knew nothing about her but I do remember at the time thinking she wasn't very good. Even there she came across to me as fake. That's compared against the others who weren't that great either!! Lol

coolmum123 · 05/09/2024 11:07

Thedom · 05/09/2024 10:41

There are some memes doing the rounds of her, even just the recent trip in Colombia, and she really cannot act out being enthralled with Harry (or anyone) at all, it seems like she has two different forced expressions and 'smile' which she relies on all the time, particularly when the camera is on her, it's actually amusing to see her putting on 'her face'.

I think she rarely has a genuine smile or expression.

Did anyone see the video doing the rounds on TIkTok when they were at the airport on return from their Nigeria trip? They spent the whole trip hanging off one another then at the airport she is striding way ahead of him and he is bringing up the rear! That was eye opening.

Lifestooshort71 · 05/09/2024 11:11

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 05/09/2024 08:21

I think she failed to realise that the RF pay for their clothes, handbags etc. They return unsolicited goods

But she surely must have realised that she was now in receipt of a hugely generous clothing allowance from her FIL and that she could buy or have made bespoke pretty much anything she wants.

But she wanted the wealth and adulation to be about her and not as a plus one, the only way that could be achieved would be by making Harry the spare (ironic really) - she knew this would never be allowed in the UK so, off they scampered to set up The Court of the Duchess of Sussex (plus one).

upinaballoon · 05/09/2024 11:23

Petlover9 · 05/09/2024 09:01

BunnyLake that made me laugh! I had visions of Hazno with a tape measure in his pocket ( possibly next to his Eliz Arden todger cream) 😂

It's not the size of the sausage which counts. It's what's inside it.

Imanontoday · 05/09/2024 11:24

coolmum123 · 05/09/2024 11:04

Meghan is arguably a good actress,

Personally I don't think she is. We watched Suits way before she became Harry's girlfriend - I knew nothing about her but I do remember at the time thinking she wasn't very good. Even there she came across to me as fake. That's compared against the others who weren't that great either!! Lol

Don’t get me wrong she’s no meryl. But she’s a decent actress for a cable show. I also think all the hanging off Harry can’t keep her hands off him, knee touching,back stroking, swooning, is an act. Very few couples, if any, several years down the line, with a couple of kids, can’t keep their hands off each other like that and act like newly weds. I’m one hundred percent sure she does it for the cameras.

on the flip side, if a man was treating a woman like that, we’d all think he was some weird possessive controlling twat.

cheezncrackers · 05/09/2024 11:35

Thedom · 03/09/2024 16:55

So American Riveria Orchard has had their trademark rejected for various reasons, this being one of them 🙄

"In their consideration of her trademark bid, Meghan was also told she needed to cough up another $700 (£532) if she wanted to proceed after failing to pay the correct fee initially."

I mean, what the actual FK, do they have inexperienced overworked interns burning the midnight oil and making these kind of simple blunders.,

So much for her 'freakish eye for detail'.

Edited

Let's face it, the launch of ARO has been an absolute disaster! She launched the website back in when - April? May? She had no products to sell at that point and hadn't even trademarked the name, got licensing and trademarking agreements in place for the products she wanted to sell, or even got her marketing materials in place. Why on earth she rushed the launch of the website I'll never know, but she and 'H' have form for rushing things, don't they?!

Anyway, at the time it was promised that she'd have products etc, 'in the spring'. Well, it was already the spring and now it's the autumn and there hasn't been any movement at all on the brand in months. She sent a few jars of jam to celeb influencers and she's apparently filmed a cookery show that seems to have flopped with test audiences and there is no date or information about when, which channel, or even IF it will ever air. The whole thing is an amateurish balls-up. Attention to detail, my arse! She couldn't run a fucking bath.

SadOrWickedFairy · 05/09/2024 11:37

I also think all the hanging off Harry can’t keep her hands off him, knee touching, back stroking, swooning, is an act.

I agree, it looks forced, for show not genuine affection.

thenightsky · 05/09/2024 11:39

coolmum123 · 05/09/2024 11:07

Did anyone see the video doing the rounds on TIkTok when they were at the airport on return from their Nigeria trip? They spent the whole trip hanging off one another then at the airport she is striding way ahead of him and he is bringing up the rear! That was eye opening.

Yes. Different Meghan completely.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/09/2024 11:48

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 05/09/2024 07:25

And another thought - Harry grew up feeling second best to his brother, so I suppose replicating that dynamic in his marriage is actually very comfortable for him, although he probably isn't aware of this.

I don't know about "comfortable"?

It's obviously true Harry ranked lower than the more senior royals, but at any occasion where none of them were present he'd always be "IT" - and now he's relegated to the sidelines by his wife

Of course he might welcome this, but with someone who's shown flashes of arrogance so often I do sometimes wonder ...

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