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GB News is losing the plot!

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LimeBiscuit · 23/08/2024 21:10

I really don’t think there is a ‘contest’ other than in the minds of parts of the media. One brother will be King in time and the other brother wants to leave a meaningful legacy in his own right. So far both are doing a great job in carving out their own lives. I hope the brothers come to a point in time where they can be friends again. Life is too short to hold on to anger. The media doesn’t help by embroiling itself in their relationship - or lack thereof currently. I think many people in many countries would love to see a sense of family togetherness again with all of the current King’s grandchildren getting to know one another. It would show how a public facing family can overcome its own difficulties if KCIII could bring both brothers into line again. It’s time to stop painting Harry as the black sheep of the family. It hasn’t worked, it just drives more dissent and anti monarchy feeling in the younger generation. If we are to have a King William and a King George then the younger generation do need to see the institution as worth holding onto. As Harry is clearly active on the world stage harnessing his global appeal would be an advantageous move by the current King.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

Princess Kate and Prince William lose contest to Meghan Markle and Prince Harry

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex stepped back as working royals four years ago

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

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PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 16:57

@Puzzledandpissedoff indeed. I do wonder what Meghan told Harry about her Dad, bearing in mind that he was so lauded by her on The Tig.

IAmATorturedPoet · 25/08/2024 17:06

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 16:51

@IAmATorturedPoet No Omid Scobie did not say that.

According to a new book about the couple, Finding Freedom, the leak came from someone who works for Harry's cousin Princess Eugenie and her dad Prince Andrew

From Authors Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand:

“The Sunday Express was going to run with the story of their relationship - and the tabloid was rumoured to have been tipped off by an employee of none other than Eugenie and her father, Prince Andrew."

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:17

bitesthedust · 25/08/2024 09:09

oh did it touch a nerve?

Not in the slightest!! Why on earth would it?!

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:31

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 13:21

I think Harry has a long history of the Palace leaking stories about him to the press. So he simply wrote about everything that the Palace knew and that they might leak. It removes their power.

OMG I am quite certain that a LOT of shit would hit the fan if his family ever chose to retaliate in kind - far more damaging than anything in the public domain now!! Don't make me laugh - "removes their power" my eye!

Far from leaking - they protected him so that we didn't get to see the bitter, jealous, petty man he really is!

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:34

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 13:47

The Palace don't have to leak stories, they just have to threaten Harry that they will leak a story.
And the attack by William could easily have been leaked by the Palace with a very different spin.
The first rule of PR is if you think someone is going to leak a story about you, you give your version first.

Bullshit at its finest! And which is it? First you said the palace leaked stories; now you say they threatened to!

I very much doubt the dispute between the brothers would ever have been leaked. To what purpose?

Evidence???

smilesy · 25/08/2024 17:37

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:34

Bullshit at its finest! And which is it? First you said the palace leaked stories; now you say they threatened to!

I very much doubt the dispute between the brothers would ever have been leaked. To what purpose?

Evidence???

@Runnerinthenight I appreciate that you are catching up on the thread, but you will notice that posters have repeatedly asked for evidence of this and none has been forthcoming. I wouldn’t waste your finger energy 😂😂

Gorgonemilezola · 25/08/2024 17:40

There would be precisely zero reasons for the palace to 'leak' a story about Harry's new girlfriend. Meghan took great delight in the early press interest in her - using public instead of private entrances to ensure she was noticed, walking backwards and forwards in front of newspaper office in the hope that someone would pap her. It's very plausible that she was behind any leak to the press about her relationship with Harry, whether using Eugenie or a Canadian friend as the conduit.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:45

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 13:55

No I did not say what you are claiming.
I said there is a long history of the Palace leaking stories. Read about Harry's court case. I am not going to do the work for you if you do not read ordinary newspapers which have covered this.
I said the Palace have leaked stories, and that the Palace do not have to leak all stories, they can just threaten Harry that they will leak a story. The two actions are not mutually exclusive.

You literally just totally contradicted yourself again, and the post is even on the same page as this one!!!

Nadeed · Today 13:21
I think Harry has a long history of the Palace leaking stories about him to the press.

You don't know what you're talking about and that is why you refuse to reference!

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:46

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 14:02

Why are you quoting that line?
Yes the Palace have a long history of leaking stores to the press. That includes about Harry.
And I argued that the Palace does not have to leak every story it knows about Harry, simply threaten Harry that they will.
Do I really have to write a pedantic thesis to be understood?

You need to stop contradicting yourself completely, and you need to backup what you say if you want to be taken seriously.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:47

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 14:09

Which conversations? Which text messages? Please be more explicit.

Now that is what I call irony...!!

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 17:48

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:45

You literally just totally contradicted yourself again, and the post is even on the same page as this one!!!

Nadeed · Today 13:21
I think Harry has a long history of the Palace leaking stories about him to the press.

You don't know what you're talking about and that is why you refuse to reference!

Why are you quoting old posts?
I have explained many times.

  1. The Palace leaks stories. The Palace has leaked stories about Harry.
  2. I said in reply to a particular comment. The Palace could also threaten to leak other stories.

Do you understand that the Palace could leak some stories and threaten to leak others?
I have talked about leaks in this thread.

jeffgoldblum · 25/08/2024 17:49

Where is the proof the palace leaked stories?

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:51

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 14:39

@Uricon2 I was not commenting on whether this PR tactic worked or not. I was simply answering the question about why would Harry reveal so much personal detail. And I have repeatedly explained that this is a common PR tactic where the individual fears the stories will be leaked or there will be threats to leak the stories.
In this case the Palace leaking stories about Harry or threatening to leak stories.
Harry has simply carried out a dump of everything he thinks might be leaked by the Palace or they might threaten to leak. And sold a lot of books and made a lot of money in the process.

That's such a load of old bollocks!

Rhaidimiddim · 25/08/2024 17:52

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:58

The H and M necklace was commissioned at the same time Tominey published her world exclusive. Tominey's article came first.

How do you know this so certsinly? Did a source tell you?

Uricon2 · 25/08/2024 17:54

Even if BP is a veritable colander, I don't think Harry's virginity loss is exactly what you'd call the scoop of the century. He chose to talk about that (in embarrassing detail) and the fellow teen (at the time) involved had to more or less out herself to save bigger hassle down the line, as the Press which he despises so much were undoubtedly on her case.

What do you think of his actions there and of course with the matron story, @Nadeed ? Would be very interested in your opinion.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:57

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:34

@smilesy you are really asking people to believe that an actress based in Canada who starts dating a British Royal Prince decides to leak that fact to the British press? And she chooses to leak that fact to a journalist who has a long history of being close to sources of that British Royal family?

It does not stand up to the sniff test. Your premise is obvious nonsense.

An actress based in Canada who leaked a story like this would have quickly been ostracised by the British Royal family. No Royal Family would want anything to do with a non-Royal who would so easily leak private information.
Secondly, journalists protect their sources. Tominey's sources at the Palace are valuable to her. She would be incredibly stupid to publish a leak about the Royal Family without their approval. And if she did she would have been side lined as untrustworthy. That has not happened.

The ONLY logical scenario is that Tominey obtained her world exclusive about Harry dating Meghan from the Palace.

I wish schools taught critical thinking.

I wish your school had!!

The rudeness and audacity of you stating someone else's points are "obvious nonsense" given the utter piffle you have posted is staggering.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:58

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:41

It is quite clear that the Palace gave Tominey her world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan.

No. it's not.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:01

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:51

I explained logically why it was clear that the world exclusive Tominey published that Harry was dating Meghan could only have come from the Palace.
No one else has put a logical case of why it could have come from Meghan - except she wanted everyone to know she was dating Harry.

It is clear if Meghan who was based in Canada, or one of her friends had leaked this to a British journalist:

  1. The Royal Family would have retaliated to a new comer on the scene leaking to the press
  2. Tominey who has close ties to the Palace would have been very unlikely to publish the leak from an outsider.
  3. If Tominey had published the Palace would have side lined her. They have not.
  4. If Meghan or a friend of hers had leaked to the press, we would have heard about it by now.

The British Royal Family quite rightly would not take kindly to a new comer leaking to the press. Meghan was not engaged to Harry, she was simply dating him.
It does feel on this thread that some people will argue black is white if it supports the Royal Family.

Which is precisely what you are doing my dear, arguing that "black is white"!

Rhaidimiddim · 25/08/2024 18:02

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 17:58

No. it's not.

Is this a five-minute argument, or the full half hour?

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:05

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 16:02

No, Tominey got the dating information from elsewhere.
Why would the Palace leak about Meghan? At that point she was just another girlfriend. What did Meghan have to gain? Fame, headlines and pictures. Click click.
Who benefits most?

Exactly, and moreover, wasn't it stated/rumoured that Meghan threatened to finish with Harry if he didn't go public? Harry had no reason to want to go public, and the palace had no beef in the game!

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:08

smilesy · 25/08/2024 17:37

@Runnerinthenight I appreciate that you are catching up on the thread, but you will notice that posters have repeatedly asked for evidence of this and none has been forthcoming. I wouldn’t waste your finger energy 😂😂

Yeah, I know that now lol - just catching up and couldn't quite fathom what bullshit I was reading!!!

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 18:10

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:05

Exactly, and moreover, wasn't it stated/rumoured that Meghan threatened to finish with Harry if he didn't go public? Harry had no reason to want to go public, and the palace had no beef in the game!

Yes, she threatened to end it if Harry didn't refer to her publicly as his girlfriend. This is from Tom Bower, who repeatedly asks them to sue if any facts in his book are incorrect.
Tumbleweed.

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 18:10

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:08

Yeah, I know that now lol - just catching up and couldn't quite fathom what bullshit I was reading!!!

Answer: quite a lot 😁

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:11

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 17:48

Why are you quoting old posts?
I have explained many times.

  1. The Palace leaks stories. The Palace has leaked stories about Harry.
  2. I said in reply to a particular comment. The Palace could also threaten to leak other stories.

Do you understand that the Palace could leak some stories and threaten to leak others?
I have talked about leaks in this thread.

I was catching up with the thread and demonstrating how you completely contradicted yourself and lied about it, all within a couple of posts of each other - when it was there in black and white. Then I noticed that other posters had already very ably called you out on it, to no avail. You don't answer anything you're asked, and I actually don't think you understand any of it, nothwithstanding your superior skill in critical thinking.

Runnerinthenight · 25/08/2024 18:13

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 18:10

Answer: quite a lot 😁

Veritable mountains of it!!

It's as clear as the nose on your face that Meghan was behind the leak! She'd tried to pressure Harry into going public and when he didn't, she took matters into her own hands. He should have known then she would be trouble.

Though with his critical thinking clearly an issue for him, he probably didn't believe that she would betray him in that way!