GB News is losing the plot!

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I really don’t think there is a ‘contest’ other than in the minds of parts of the media. One brother will be King in time and the other brother wants to leave a meaningful legacy in his own right. So far both are doing a great job in carving out their own lives. I hope the brothers come to a point in time where they can be friends again. Life is too short to hold on to anger. The media doesn’t help by embroiling itself in their relationship - or lack thereof currently. I think many people in many countries would love to see a sense of family togetherness again with all of the current King’s grandchildren getting to know one another. It would show how a public facing family can overcome its own difficulties if KCIII could bring both brothers into line again. It’s time to stop painting Harry as the black sheep of the family. It hasn’t worked, it just drives more dissent and anti monarchy feeling in the younger generation. If we are to have a King William and a King George then the younger generation do need to see the institution as worth holding onto. As Harry is clearly active on the world stage harnessing his global appeal would be an advantageous move by the current King.

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We Will Never Know 😂

Such nonsense, Nadeem! Harry was an adult, and was able to freely who he dated. The press had covered dating him potentially dating Jenna Coleman, Florence Brudenell- Bruce and a private citizen who worked for a charity before he met Meghan. He’d had several rumoured flings, As no-one at the time knew he was going to marry Meghan Markle, I can’t see why the Palace would care that he had a new girlfriend.

As for that new girlfriend though, being revealed as Prince Harry’s girlfriend would have caused Meghan Markle’s stock to absolutely rocket. As indeed it did. She must have been delighted! If you’re looking at who stood to benefit most from the exposure, ther’s only one person in the frame.

And as for the Palace ostracising her for going public with their relationship, firstly how would the place have known who Camilla Tominey’s source was? You also must have missed Meghan’s Vanity fair Cover shoot and article, titled “Wild About Harry, that she did before they were engaged. That clearly didn’t stand in the way of their engagement and marriage, did it?

No one else has put a logical case of why it could have come from Meghan - except she wanted everyone to know she was dating Harry.

And there we have the very best reason of all! 🤣

Why not Meghan? She was the one who wanted the press coverage. See the details above

The H and M necklace was commissioned at the same time Tominey published her world exclusive. Tominey's article came first.

Or perhaps not. Again, who was the all round winner when it came out? If Harry remained devoted and the relationship continued (which as we know was the outcome) win. If he got cold feet and finished things, well an actress with a fairly modest resume got a huge PR boost, so win.

There are stories that are critical of other members of the RF all the time. Obviously all the "leaking" they do isn't terribly successful.

Tominey also threatened to sue Harry for describing her in negative terms in his book.

What utter nonsense. Here’s what she actually said about that in an interview in the Press Gazette:

Is Telegraph journalist Camilla Tominey tempted to sue Prince Harry after being disparaged in his book Spare?
She is clearly identifiable as “this execrable woman” and a royal correspondent who “had always made me ill” and who “always, always got stuff wrong”.
“God, no,” she says. “I mean, that way madness lies. Everyone, myself included, in the past has got things wrong. He’s got things wrong. Everybody involved in this sorry saga, I think, has got things wrong. So, no, I certainly wouldn’t be doing that.”

Yes, and the Palace, in an attempt to protect Meghan's privacy advised her to stop those pap walks wearing the H necklace. She was cross about that!

I’m getting a little bit bored of your sniping now 😊

Why is it unlikely that someone who wanted to get a story out would not contact a broadsheet newspaper, wherever they were based in the world? Global village and all that. And who asks for approval to publish an anonymous leak? You claim the palace leak all the time. Do they ask for approval?

I wish some would take Point Evidence Explain more seriously and produce evidence when asked 🙄

Meghan’s Vanity fair Cover shoot and article, titled “Wild About Harry, was after Tominey's article with her world exclusive.
You all keep throwing out photos and interviews Meghan gave that happened after Camilla Tominey published her world exclusive that Harry and Meghan were dating. It is quite clear this came from Palace sources.

No, Tominey got the dating information from elsewhere.
Why would the Palace leak about Meghan? At that point she was just another girlfriend. What did Meghan have to gain? Fame, headlines and pictures. Click click.
Who benefits most?

Yes, we know, because as soon after the article was published Meghan was photographed in Toronto (by one of her favourite paparazzi photographers ) wearing it. Looking very chic and by a happy coincidence carrying two big bunches of colourful flowers! Some girls have all the luck…

That photograph! Could it be more obvious?!

I know. But you said:

An actress based in Canada who leaked a story like this would have quickly been ostracised by the British Royal family. No Royal Family would want anything to do with a non-Royal who would so easily leak private information.

I pointed out that Meghan, while still only dating Harry, did a hell of a lot more than “just” leaking that they were in a relationship. She did a whole front cover and photoshoot plus article with Vanity Fair explicitly linking herself to Harry and talking about their relationship and how much they loved each other.

If you were right that self-publicising off the back of a relationship would cause someone to be ostracised by the Royal family, then the Vanity Fair article would have been viewed a hell of a lot more seriously by the Palace than simply a leak of a fledgling relationship. And yet, as we know, it was not an issue. So your thesis here is disproved.

It is clear if Meghan who was based in Canada, or one of her friends had leaked this to a British journalist:
The Royal Family would have retaliated to a new comer on the scene leaking to the press
Tominey who has close ties to the Palace would have been very unlikely to publish the leak from an outsider.
If Tominey had published the Palace would have side lined her. They have not.
If Meghan or a friend of hers had leaked to the press, we would have heard about it by now.

The British Royal Family quite rightly would not take kindly to a new comer leaking to the press. Meghan was not engaged to Harry, she was simply dating him.

After Tominey's world exclusive was published, Meghan wore a necklace with the initials H and M. Later still she gave interviews about her and Harry.
But the original story came from Tominey via Royal Family sources.

No. The story came from Canada. The RF had nothing to gain from leaking details about some woman Harry was dating. Pointless.
An unknown, ambitious actress? Everything to gain. Critical thinking? Cui Bono.
Meghan.

@Serenster I have already stated that article and photo shoot was quite a while after Tominey's world exclusive article. So I do not understand why you are repeating this inaccurate information?

The Royal Family would have retaliated to a new comer on the scene leaking to the press

Please do give us an example if where this has happened previously? Because it sounds like rubbish to me.

(I’d also point out that the Royal family took no action when just a couple of months after the romance was revealed Meghan leaked a story that Kate had snobbishly refused to give her a lift to the shops to a Toronto gossip site. So I can see no evidence at all for your confident assertion here).

Maybe use your critical thinking skills and actually read my post…?

But the original story came from Tominey via Royal Family sources.

You do not know this to be a fact. You are guessing and assuming. You have no evidence. You have still not produced any evidence that the palace leak

Are you applying your much vaunted critical
thinking skills? Or just clinging to something that you want to be true with not a shred of evidence that it is?

You are completely discounting several other posters who have put forward reasonable arguments as to why it is likely that the story came from Meghan’s side of the fence. That is not critical thinking

@Nadeed can you explain why Harry wrote all that stuff in Spare that the Palace couldn't have known about, never mind leaked?

I also struggle to understand why the awful, cold, unfriendly, racist RF and their dreadful Palace machinery, so opposed to M from the outset (the M&H version) would have risked giving validation to a relationship which at that point could well have fizzled out.

Didn’t Omid Scobie say in his book Finding Freedom that Camilla Tominey got her tip off from a ‘staff member’ of Eugenie’s (who as we know is a good friend of Meghan’s and was even at a Halloween party with the couple the night before the story broke).

What made a staff member of Eugenie's suddenly decide to pick up the phone to Camilla?

C’mon, of course it was orchestrated by Meghan. She had her friends and media sources primed and ready to go.

@IAmATorturedPoet No Omid Scobie did not say that.

No Royal Family would want anything to do with a non-Royal who would so easily leak private information

Finally a statement I agree with, except the tense is perhaps a bit wonky

As it turned out they didn't want anything to do with such a person, especially once the real deluge of private information kicked off when H&M failed to get everything they wanted

And yes, @PoppysAunt, Harry very possibly did get deperate when Knauf showed his wife to be a liar. After all he'd already thrown a lot into the relationship at that point, and any normal person might well have wondered what else she'd lied about - not to mention what her father might have revealed if only he'd managed to meet him