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GB News is losing the plot!

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LimeBiscuit · 23/08/2024 21:10

I really don’t think there is a ‘contest’ other than in the minds of parts of the media. One brother will be King in time and the other brother wants to leave a meaningful legacy in his own right. So far both are doing a great job in carving out their own lives. I hope the brothers come to a point in time where they can be friends again. Life is too short to hold on to anger. The media doesn’t help by embroiling itself in their relationship - or lack thereof currently. I think many people in many countries would love to see a sense of family togetherness again with all of the current King’s grandchildren getting to know one another. It would show how a public facing family can overcome its own difficulties if KCIII could bring both brothers into line again. It’s time to stop painting Harry as the black sheep of the family. It hasn’t worked, it just drives more dissent and anti monarchy feeling in the younger generation. If we are to have a King William and a King George then the younger generation do need to see the institution as worth holding onto. As Harry is clearly active on the world stage harnessing his global appeal would be an advantageous move by the current King.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

Princess Kate and Prince William lose contest to Meghan Markle and Prince Harry

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex stepped back as working royals four years ago

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/kate-middleton-prince-william-news-meghan-markle-prince-harry-contest

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Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:20

@smilesy Is that likely given that Camilla Tominey's links are with the Royal Family rather than American actors? Tominey covered Catherine and Williams wedding, Diamond Jubilee and other Royal stories long before Meghan had met Harry.
Tominey also threatened to sue Harry for describing her in negative terms in his book.
The world exclusive leak clearly came from the Royal Family side of the couple.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:22

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:12

@Serenster Camilla Tominey obviously has good sources at the Palace. She broke the world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan Markle.

Tominey had a long history of covering the Royal Family before Harry had even met Meghan. All her sources were via the Royal Family.

Serenster · 25/08/2024 15:23

It’s hardly surprising that Camilla Tominey didn’t have a Canadian source before Harry started dating someone based in Canada! She’s not psychic. 🤣

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:26

@Serenster You are right Tominey is not psychic. She broke a world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan Markle. Her sources were via the British Royal Family.

smilesy · 25/08/2024 15:27

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:22

Tominey had a long history of covering the Royal Family before Harry had even met Meghan. All her sources were via the Royal Family.

Then it would seem logical that if someone wanted their information about the engagement to be taken seriously, they would contact CT. They don’t have to have been at the palace. Wasn’t Meghan wearing a necklace with her and Harry’s initials on it or something as well? No reason the leak couldn’t have come from her side

Serenster · 25/08/2024 15:33

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:26

@Serenster You are right Tominey is not psychic. She broke a world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan Markle. Her sources were via the British Royal Family.

But how do you know that someone in Canada didn’t contact a UK-based royal journalist with the story under the (almost certainly correct) assumption that a UK broadsheet paper (rather than a tabloid or celebrity magazine) would create a huge splash and definitely be believed?

hepsitemiz · 25/08/2024 15:34

Serenster · 25/08/2024 15:16

Smilesy I’ve always thought it was most likely that that scoop did indeed come from someone close to Meghan. Very close indeed, perhaps. She was dropping enough hints on her instagram…

That's absolutely correct - Meghan was desperate for the story to come out.

Also, Tominey has said that while she had sources at the Palace, she also relied on other sources that were unrelated to the RF. What is more, she hints heavily - in the quote given by a pp upthread - that in fact, in the case of the story being discussed, her source was indeed not from the Palace.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:34

@smilesy you are really asking people to believe that an actress based in Canada who starts dating a British Royal Prince decides to leak that fact to the British press? And she chooses to leak that fact to a journalist who has a long history of being close to sources of that British Royal family?

It does not stand up to the sniff test. Your premise is obvious nonsense.

An actress based in Canada who leaked a story like this would have quickly been ostracised by the British Royal family. No Royal Family would want anything to do with a non-Royal who would so easily leak private information.
Secondly, journalists protect their sources. Tominey's sources at the Palace are valuable to her. She would be incredibly stupid to publish a leak about the Royal Family without their approval. And if she did she would have been side lined as untrustworthy. That has not happened.

The ONLY logical scenario is that Tominey obtained her world exclusive about Harry dating Meghan from the Palace.

I wish schools taught critical thinking.

Serenster · 25/08/2024 15:37

I’d also point out that the photographer who took the photos of Meghan in Toronto wearing the “M&H” necklace had worked with Meghan previously at her own request. And he was the first person to get a photo of Meghan and Harry in London together as a couple as they walked from a cab into Soho House for dinner. He openly posted on twitter that he “magically knew” where they would be that evening. Thus raising the profile of Meghan and Soho House at the same time. Funny, that!

If Meghan wanted the story to get out, she could easily have managed to get the story to Camilla Tominey.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:40

Yeah okay. An actress leaked a story to a reporter close to the Royal Family. And yet no one in the Royal Family cared that this new woman leaked feely to the press.
If you believe that, you will believe anything.

hepsitemiz · 25/08/2024 15:41

Oh boy, Nadeed, where to begin...

What does not stand the sniff test is the idea that an obscure Canadian actress might worry about being "ostracised" by the BRF... as if they were living in hope of being invited one day to the garden party.

Another thing that doesn't stand the sniff test is why would the Palace be so keen to release news of Prince Harry's latest squeeze. They had seen them come and seen them go. They would have had no interest in leaking such a story.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:41

It is quite clear that the Palace gave Tominey her world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan.

jeffgoldblum · 25/08/2024 15:41

They did care I imagine, probably why Harry was advised to slow down by many family members.

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 15:42

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:41

It is quite clear that the Palace gave Tominey her world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan.

It is quite clear from Tominey herself that she got it from non royal sources.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:43

Okay you are all going to believe something that literally makes zero sense just because it supports your narrative.

hepsitemiz · 25/08/2024 15:44

hepsitemiz · 25/08/2024 15:41

Oh boy, Nadeed, where to begin...

What does not stand the sniff test is the idea that an obscure Canadian actress might worry about being "ostracised" by the BRF... as if they were living in hope of being invited one day to the garden party.

Another thing that doesn't stand the sniff test is why would the Palace be so keen to release news of Prince Harry's latest squeeze. They had seen them come and seen them go. They would have had no interest in leaking such a story.

That obscure Canadian actress being, not Meghan, but one of her friends. Just to clarify.

jeffgoldblum · 25/08/2024 15:45

Yes , because it does make sense to the majority of us here , whereas your argument is of your opinion only and has no actual proof apart from " the sniff test"

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 15:45

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 13:47

The Palace don't have to leak stories, they just have to threaten Harry that they will leak a story.
And the attack by William could easily have been leaked by the Palace with a very different spin.
The first rule of PR is if you think someone is going to leak a story about you, you give your version first.

So - according to you - Harry leaked intimate, personal, private details about his loved ones... in case they leaked it first?!
Bizarre.

jeffgoldblum · 25/08/2024 15:46

I'm sure William was desperate to leak stories about his penis!

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 15:47

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/08/2024 14:22

Save your breath, smilesy; surely we all know by now that this kind of allegation's never clarified, and that if it's pushed the narrative will simply swap to something else?

It's only a personal view I know, but I've always believed this comes back to Jason Knauf revealing the proof that Meghan had lied - an action for which some will clearly never forgive him. I'm not sure that counts as a "palace leak" exactly, but no matter; even if it wasn't there'll be those who'll say (and have) that he was put up to it

Exactly. Once the evidence was clear about Meghan lying, Harry just got desperate.

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 15:51

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 14:39

@Uricon2 I was not commenting on whether this PR tactic worked or not. I was simply answering the question about why would Harry reveal so much personal detail. And I have repeatedly explained that this is a common PR tactic where the individual fears the stories will be leaked or there will be threats to leak the stories.
In this case the Palace leaking stories about Harry or threatening to leak stories.
Harry has simply carried out a dump of everything he thinks might be leaked by the Palace or they might threaten to leak. And sold a lot of books and made a lot of money in the process.

Why would BP leak details about William's circumcision?
Harry losing his virginity?
Harry thinking the bin spoke to him?
Harry getting high on entonox in the labour suite?
Harry wrote all this... because the Palace was going to leak it?...🤔

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:51

jeffgoldblum · 25/08/2024 15:45

Yes , because it does make sense to the majority of us here , whereas your argument is of your opinion only and has no actual proof apart from " the sniff test"

I explained logically why it was clear that the world exclusive Tominey published that Harry was dating Meghan could only have come from the Palace.
No one else has put a logical case of why it could have come from Meghan - except she wanted everyone to know she was dating Harry.

It is clear if Meghan who was based in Canada, or one of her friends had leaked this to a British journalist:

  1. The Royal Family would have retaliated to a new comer on the scene leaking to the press
  2. Tominey who has close ties to the Palace would have been very unlikely to publish the leak from an outsider.
  3. If Tominey had published the Palace would have side lined her. They have not.
  4. If Meghan or a friend of hers had leaked to the press, we would have heard about it by now.

The British Royal Family quite rightly would not take kindly to a new comer leaking to the press. Meghan was not engaged to Harry, she was simply dating him.
It does feel on this thread that some people will argue black is white if it supports the Royal Family.

Uricon2 · 25/08/2024 15:51

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:41

It is quite clear that the Palace gave Tominey her world exclusive that Harry was dating Meghan.

Not clear at all. As you are sniffily reminding us about "critical thinking" try imagining who actually benefitted from that story breaking.

Clue-not the BRF.

PoppysAunt · 25/08/2024 15:52

Serenster · 25/08/2024 15:16

Smilesy I’ve always thought it was most likely that that scoop did indeed come from someone close to Meghan. Very close indeed, perhaps. She was dropping enough hints on her instagram…

It was very clear on her Instagram. Also why she was papped with the H necklace, and why she was majorly pissed off that the Palace suggested she didn't drop clues, like wearing the H necklace.

Nadeed · 25/08/2024 15:53

@Uricon2 I have no idea why the Palace leaked the story. Perhaps to distract from a story that would have been critical of the Royal family?