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C5 Documentary: Harry and Meghan, Rise and Fall

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IsoldeWagner · 18/08/2024 12:10

Anyone watching this? It's on My5. I thought the first episode was interesting. I was reminded of how popular they were and how much support they got.

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jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 15:45

Who said they were bigger than the whole rf though?
The pair of them were just a minor blip on my radar !
I didn't watch the wedding, I didn't follow the news , I was getting on with life as I'm sure many were , I was only aware of them when all the interviews and unpleasant complaints from them started.

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 22/08/2024 15:50

I didn't watch the wedding

I didn't either - and did for the Wale's - we were out for the day. Did look for images later to see what she'd worn - both MIL and I were interested very disappointed. MIL worked in textile industry and couldn't believe such a poor fit was let out the door - so followed the bridesmaid dress controversy later and thought that fashion house badly let them down.

First time I though the was something was not right - was that African tour and the tone deaf comments Meghan made.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/08/2024 16:00

When they went off to Canada for 5 weeks, my thought was - this is where she isolates him from his family

Definitely with you on that, @Rhaidimiddim; despite the flannel issued at the time I thought the chances of them ever come back afterwards were nil, but then I'm another who never believed Meghan had the least intention of staying in the UK in the first place

IsoldeWagner · 22/08/2024 16:20

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 15:45

Who said they were bigger than the whole rf though?
The pair of them were just a minor blip on my radar !
I didn't watch the wedding, I didn't follow the news , I was getting on with life as I'm sure many were , I was only aware of them when all the interviews and unpleasant complaints from them started.

Nobody did, Jeff. Not one person suggested that they were "bigger" or more important than any royals. Unless it came from the couple themselves. They were popular because they were royalty. I think they believed it was all about themselves. They were wrong.

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hepsitemiz · 22/08/2024 16:22

Ah, those "relentless" attacks were "relentless!", were they, LAW?

How terribly, terribly relentless they must have been.

Never mind, she's safe now.

IsoldeWagner · 22/08/2024 16:31

"relentless attacks" - such hyperbole.
The evidence for "relentless attacks" is sometimes people commented on her cradling her bump. 🙄

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jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 16:41

Indeed @IsoldeWagner !
Fed up with lack of knowledge about the royal family's role in the U.K. .
They are not celebrities, thier function now is ceremonial and to serve us .
There is no popularity contest, it's a monarchy.
The taxpayers pay ( a small percentage) for the privilege.
We do not want sensation or scandal, we want them to do the job we expect, they are funded accordingly.

IsoldeWagner · 22/08/2024 16:47

Spot on, @jeffgoldblum . I can't for the life of me work out why there is so much willful ignorance.

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jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 16:50

🤷‍♀️ Isolde!

Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 16:52

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 18:13

But there were lots of excuses about why Charles does not see his son Harry, or their grandchildren.
I agree, he has chosen not to. He could, but does not want to see them.

Don't be daft - do you think the king can drop everything and fly off to the US just like that???!

To meet with a son who will sell anything he says to him to the highest bidder?

Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 16:55

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 18:21

@smilesy he was saying that. It is crazy ex wife territory. Diana has often been dismissed by critics as the crazy ex wife.

That's ridiculous.

Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 16:59

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 18:40

You were obviously not alive during the War of the Waleses.
Charles painted Diana as a flighty crazy ex wife. Charles gave a TV interview, had an authorised book written, and leaked lots of stories about Diana and their marriage.

I was, and that's nonsense.

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 17:00

@Runnerinthenight , some people don't seem to understand that the king is HOS and can't suddenly go to another country without informing the leaders of that country, the USA would be responsible for his security and have to fund it because the king is entitled to ip status .

This is even before the fact that Charles is recovering from cancer.

IsoldeWagner · 22/08/2024 17:05

....and anything he says to Harry will appear in a book/Netflix/magazine/People. Possibly somewhat embellished and twisted.

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Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 17:09

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 22:51

@LimeBiscuit Even the tabloids talked about the Wars of the Waleses. Everyone knew both Charles and Diana were both briefing the press. And yes most people took Diana's side.
Now Diana is dead, history is being rewritten. For example, outright denial that Charles was briefing Diana was a crazy ex-wife.
Charles was painting Diana as a crazy ex-wife. Diana was painting Charles as an uncaring husband who had an affair with Camilla all through his marriage.

Queen Elizabeth eventually had enough of the public war and told them they had to divorce.

For the love of god, if you are going to continue with your allegations, could you actually provide some evidence to support them???! And yes, you are coming across as obsessed and irrational.

Uricon2 · 22/08/2024 17:20

In Brokeback Brexit Britain
Some posters with Meghan are smitten
They worship the pair
And say it's not fair
That the RF think history rewritten.

Sorry.

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 17:23

There's that too @IsoldeWagner !
But I don't understand how people can't see how unfeasable it is for the king of the U.K. to hop on a plane and visit the USA at a moments notice!

Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 17:24

LAW2010 · 22/08/2024 14:46

The first part was great. Harry & Meghan are certainly besotted with each other!

After the tour of South Africa, they were bigger than the rest of the royal family put together!

This is when the problems started and the relentless attacks against Meghan were relentless!

This is when the problems started and the relentless attacks against Meghan were relentless!

Excellent observation there...

IsoldeWagner · 22/08/2024 17:24

Uricon2 · 22/08/2024 17:20

In Brokeback Brexit Britain
Some posters with Meghan are smitten
They worship the pair
And say it's not fair
That the RF think history rewritten.

Sorry.

Brilliant 👍 😂

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Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 17:28

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 17:00

@Runnerinthenight , some people don't seem to understand that the king is HOS and can't suddenly go to another country without informing the leaders of that country, the USA would be responsible for his security and have to fund it because the king is entitled to ip status .

This is even before the fact that Charles is recovering from cancer.

Some people seem to understand very little!

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 17:29

I find it very sad @Runnerinthenight !

Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 17:31

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 17:29

I find it very sad @Runnerinthenight !

You're more patient than I am @jeffgoldblum - it just irritates me!!

jeffgoldblum · 22/08/2024 17:33

I was attempting to be polite @Runnerinthenight ! 🤣🤣 , can't say my real opinion!

Runnerinthenight · 22/08/2024 17:45

😂😂😂

Vespanest · 22/08/2024 17:59

I try to get my head around arguing that Charles is an horrific arsehole and arguing he should visit his grandchildren. Surely you think people with them views would actually be happy that he doesn’t hop on to a plane, even though we have no idea if he’d be welcome and ignoring the logistics of a King

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