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The Columbia Tour

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ThePoshUns · 16/08/2024 09:37

2 threads deleted. Sabotaged by the Squad?
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EdithWeston · 20/08/2024 14:37

Vespanest · 20/08/2024 14:17

If Meghan wants to promote her voice she’d do much better if she stopped the fashion influencer role at the same time, she can do both but not on the same day. The press will pick a lane to promote and even on this site her fashion choices are a large part of discussion. The biggest drowning out of meghans speech is their own PR of how good she looks, how many outfits, what jewellery and how much. Its an area she could learn something from how Angelina Jolie combined two roles.

I doubt she would want to learn from Angela Jolie, whose existing royal association is with the Duchess of Edinburgh (they appear together at VAWG events)

Josephinesnapoleon · 20/08/2024 14:44

EdithWeston · 20/08/2024 14:37

I doubt she would want to learn from Angela Jolie, whose existing royal association is with the Duchess of Edinburgh (they appear together at VAWG events)

Angelina is proper a list. Megan would likely offer up her right arm to be in any way associated with her.

smilesy · 20/08/2024 14:45

Josephinesnapoleon · 20/08/2024 14:44

Angelina is proper a list. Megan would likely offer up her right arm to be in any way associated with her.

Maybe she is trying to offer Harry’s arm as she clings on to it so much? 😂

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2024 14:54

hepsitemiz · 20/08/2024 12:30

Ooof... "Rhiannon, don't behave like this"

Who the hell???

He's a prince of the realm, hepsitemiz, and apparently thinks that he stands at the apex of society and is therefore in a position to instruct "lesser beings" in behaviour

I agree this example was especially ugly, but what he really forgot is that manners have nothing to do with position, which is why the truly well bred use the same ones with everybody

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/08/2024 15:00

Can’t find the actual Friends clip but this made me laugh!

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CoffeeCantata · 20/08/2024 15:02

But he strikes me very much as someone who don’t really know what he wants out of life, only that he doesn’t want whatever is suggested or offered to him. Silly boy.

He seems utterly consumed with jealousy of William, and Meghan similarly with Catherine. It's bizarre (at least on H's side - I can sort of see why someone like Meghan would not tolerate a rival).

I suspect he would have been like this anyway, but when he met Meghan she managed to weaponise his insecurities and jealousies to create an absolute hurricane of anger and spite which has come close to destroying his family relationships. I see no possible way back for them. If they split, he'll be allowed to slink back quietly and live in a tiny cottage somewhere, but his old life is gone. Some relations might be kind, but I think William and Catherine have been so traumatised by what Harry and Meghan have done that there can be no hope of reconciliation. The RF health crisis is the last straw, too. Someone described his behaviour towards his family as 'scorched earth', and I think they're right.

And his children will be US-based, I'm sure, so that's going to be a problem. What a prat he's been, and all because he was jealous of his big brother.

viques · 20/08/2024 15:04

Thedom · 20/08/2024 14:31

@smilesy Have you ever seen the video of her meeting mothers2mothers on the South Africa tour, the one where she invites the parents to sit on the floor, there are lots of small snippets on youtube, but the full video of her is quite shocking, she is so disinterested while one of the mothers is recounting her story with HIV and losing a baby.

I went to look for this. It is horrendous, the rudeness and disrespect M shows to these women is off the scale. Here’s a tip, when you are invited to discuss things with a group of women and listen to them - women who are already comfortably seated on chairs - don’t invite them to sit on the floor and pretend to play with their babies Here’s another tip, when a woman tells you about how she was infected with HIV, only found out when she was pregnant and her baby subsequently died , you need to have a more adequate response in your toolbox than “mmm”. Scroll past the bit with the hiker at the start.

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garlicandsapphires · 20/08/2024 15:23

viques · 20/08/2024 15:04

I went to look for this. It is horrendous, the rudeness and disrespect M shows to these women is off the scale. Here’s a tip, when you are invited to discuss things with a group of women and listen to them - women who are already comfortably seated on chairs - don’t invite them to sit on the floor and pretend to play with their babies Here’s another tip, when a woman tells you about how she was infected with HIV, only found out when she was pregnant and her baby subsequently died , you need to have a more adequate response in your toolbox than “mmm”. Scroll past the bit with the hiker at the start.

she is awful in that video!! I can't understand as she must've known the cameras were on her Confused

SidekickSylvia · 20/08/2024 15:42

Wow, thanks for linking that Viques. That poor woman, opening her soul and telling Meghan about the loss of her baby and Meghan's body language is 'Shut up, there needs to be photos of me playing on the floor with the babies, not of my profile while I'm listening to you.' While the bereaved mother told Meghan about her HIV diagnosis, M actually turns away, looks at a baby and smiles. Very uncomfortable viewing, and as the video ends I realised I had my hand over my mouth.

Thedom · 20/08/2024 15:49

viques · 20/08/2024 15:04

I went to look for this. It is horrendous, the rudeness and disrespect M shows to these women is off the scale. Here’s a tip, when you are invited to discuss things with a group of women and listen to them - women who are already comfortably seated on chairs - don’t invite them to sit on the floor and pretend to play with their babies Here’s another tip, when a woman tells you about how she was infected with HIV, only found out when she was pregnant and her baby subsequently died , you need to have a more adequate response in your toolbox than “mmm”. Scroll past the bit with the hiker at the start.

Yes, thats the video, @Viques. Apparently it's really hard to find the full video now, other than on this youtubers' channel.

Princessfluffy · 20/08/2024 15:50

That video of Meghan is repulsive.

Uricon2 · 20/08/2024 16:13

Thanks @viques

That video is just....I was actually cringing. She wants to be Diana. I cannot imagine that Diana, for all her faults, on her very worst day, would have been so shallow, disengaged and unempathetic on hearing that brave woman tell her story.

Actually, I'm wrong. She just wants the love and adulation that Diana got, without understanding for a second why it was given to her.

Vabenejulio · 20/08/2024 16:14

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/08/2024 09:23

@Vabenejulio

Harry’s visa: this is about diplomacy, nothing to do with Harry the man. They’ll do the same for Rishi Sunak when he inevitably moves to Malibu. They would and do do the same for anyone it benefits them to stay the right side of (in this case, the British royal family). It doesn’t take much. It’s all a red herring anyway: Homeland Security have enormous discretion. They’ll do whatever is expedient whenever they want. It’s a joke to think Harry would be treated like a non-royal in terms of taxes, visas etc. From Guantanamo Bay to Montecito, there are different rules for special cases.

A sealed, ex parte order been issued by the judge in the case. The rumour is that Harry is on an A1 Head of State visa. How or why would he have received this? And if he is on this visa, he's been breaching it, hasn't he, in working and earning as a private citizen, not to mention undermining the state he's purporting to be the head of. Also, shouldn't he be registered as a foreign agent or whatever when he's doing work encouraging Americans to vote (democrat)? It's all so strange! Have you heard anything locally?

Nobody is saying anything about Harry's visa situation because (1) nobody cares about him (2) on the long, long, long list of things going on in this country right now, even if there's irregularity this isn't remotely interesting (3) everyone knows the rich get special treatment. I can't emphasize enough: it really doesn't matter if he's broken rules and isn't complying with the letter of the law etc. There are different rules for them. Look at Hunter Biden. Look at Donald Trump and his 34 felonies! Harry simply isn't important.

I don't think the USA is unique in this respect. The UK is the same if not worse. How is it possible that so many ultra ultra HNW individuals - and corporations - pay such little tax? They have preferential treatment, because they bring commensurate opportunities or because it suits diplomatically.

Harry is the same. He's the son of the king of the UK and GB. Unless he goes into the street and there's CCTV footage of him shooting someone dead, nothing is going to happen to him (and even then I suspect excuses will be made).

For all their bleating about being private citizens, they know full well that they're not. They will always be outside normal society. With Archie and Lilibet Prince and Princess, they've guaranteed the same will go for their children too. Consider it generational nepotism (in addition to generational wealth).

Twistybranch · 20/08/2024 16:16

Just think what that money could have done for those towns/schools they visited.

Vabenejulio · 20/08/2024 16:19

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/08/2024 09:32

Also, @Vabenejulio It's one thing for the DHS to overlook things that would result in the removal of an ordinary worker's visa, eg the drug taking. The George Gibney's visa/FOI case that was cited in Harry's case shows that they play favorites with some fairly nefarious characters if they can get support from bodies with influence. But a head of state of state visa being allowed to continue in the face of some patent breaches (and when there are clear, alternative paths for Harry via his marriage or under one of the "genius" visas) seems an extreme form of protection. Do you think the British government has pulled strings for him?

Yes. The sort of string that doesn't even need to be mentioned. He's not a borderline case like eg the Linley fellow of the furniture making. He's the son of the monarch of the UK. Special relationship and all that. He's totally unimportant as an individual (in fact, I think they all are here, people don't really know anything about them other than that they're royalty, some weird and magical thing from the olden days that looks amazing and fairytale on TV). It's his position that's relevant.

Crumpledfrock · 20/08/2024 16:24

Princessfluffy · 20/08/2024 15:50

That video of Meghan is repulsive.

Isn't it just, I'm speechless at how rude and unsympathetic she was, I didn't care for her much before I saw this but now....

OlympicWomen · 20/08/2024 16:28

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/08/2024 15:00

Can’t find the actual Friends clip but this made me laugh!

That's hilarious!

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 16:29

Crumpledfrock · 20/08/2024 16:24

Isn't it just, I'm speechless at how rude and unsympathetic she was, I didn't care for her much before I saw this but now....

I wonder if the Meghan lovers are watching this, and if any of them would like to try to justify it??!

Vabenejulio · 20/08/2024 16:38

Does it ever feel good to use your voice and no one hears you. That's not ideal.
So for us and the work that we do with our Archewell Foundation, certainly the work that we do as parents, as I do as a mother, is ensuring that young girls feel as though their voices are being heard, and also that young boys are being raised to listen and to hear those young women as well.
And the same goes for adult women and men. This isn't something that can be solely responsible and in the hands of just women.
Yes, we work incredibly well together as a team, but as my husband, is great testament to the role of men in this of empowering women, of allowing them to know that their voices are heard, starting at a young age all the way through adulthood, is key.
So at the Archewell Foundation, we are very, very dedicated to creating a sense of community, but also one in which women are heard and that their ideas are really felt and implemented in the programming that we do.
So we just recently launched a program called the parents network, which is for parents who have lost children or have encountered the worst possible challenges and level of grief as a result of online harms, and allowing those mothers, those parents, to be heard, is very key to the work that we're doing.

These words directly from MM encapsulate what's so awful about her endavours and the way she goes about them, and also demonstrates why she will never get anywhere with this chimera of do-gooding.

Setting aside the incoherence, the lack of logic, the non-sequiturs, it epitomizes identity politics which is what the right (Republicans, Tories, Reform etc) and imo a good chunk of the left also abhors. And on which the tides of turned and the backlash has already begun (it was always there for some of us).

It's one thing for a woman/girl not to be listened to BECAUSE she's a woman/girl. It's another thing for a woman/girl to be listened to JUST BECAUSE she's a woman/girl.

MM is the perfect poster girl for this: she doesn't have anything intelligent or meaningful or productive to say, but she wants the same attention as women who do, so she falls back on the victimhood of not "being heard" simply because she's a woman, and the right to "use her voice" to get ahead. It's only a matter of time before enough people realise - which they have - before she's busted.

It's not because she's a woman that she's not being listened to. It's because she talks bollocks. That's all there is to it.

With these words she's saying that she's raising her son to listen to and empower her daughter, regardless of substance and content, simply because she's a girl. That's what MM has found in Harry: a man who pays her heed because she's a pretty woman. And she feels vindicated because of it - she bagged a prince, after all. But it can't last. There has to be substance for people to care, and they've both demonstrated time and time and time again that they have none (except, perhaps, Harry with Invictus).

With people like MM, as soon as they're busted they move onto the next thing or next person and ghost whoever and whatever outed them. It's a pattern. The ex-husband; the family members; the job in the RF; the video spiels that went nowhere; the initiatives that withered and died; the charitable endeavours that were carried out once and never again; claims of racism against her unborn child.

Twistybranch · 20/08/2024 16:39

I don’t get how JLo and Blake lively can get cancelled over viral Tik toks but Meghan can’t - this video is much worse than Blake’s interview or the stories about JLOs diva demands

LaMarschallin · 20/08/2024 16:48

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 16:29

I wonder if the Meghan lovers are watching this, and if any of them would like to try to justify it??!

They just ignore anything like that and go on with the same old "Princess Meghan is soooo beautiful. I love her. Meghan and Harry are soooo happy and the most in-love couple ever😍😍😍" guff.

And I'm being kind by not including any massive SPAG mistakes or misused words there (I hope Grin).

DuchessOfPort · 20/08/2024 17:05

I don’t think I want to watch that video - I can’t imagine how much sadness those women have felt and I don’t think I could stand to watch someone who is so insistent she’s so marvellous, not give them her full undivided attention. She’s so SO bad at her job. Harry saying they’re all just jealous of her on tours is utterly bananas.

Every time I watch a video of her, I’m struck by how flattering the stills are. Her day in the life of Meghan in Toronto video from way before Harry, was also incredibly crap and self centred. She really is self obsessed in an extraordinary way.

Rhaidimiddim · 20/08/2024 17:14

Twistybranch · 20/08/2024 16:15

£1.5 million in security costs. I wonder how much the presidential plane ride cost too. All for publicity shots for the Archewell site.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13760873/Security-Harry-Meghan-royal-tour-cost-poverty-stricken-Colombia-million-claim-furious-official-slams-vice-president.html

And biggest threat turned out to be the moment when the VP got, er, agitated.

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