Royal family should consider paying H & M off by way of an NDA?

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Harry and Meghan had difficult childhoods. I liked Diana but she was unstable, didn't see much of them and they witnessed her being unstable or with a recent boyfriend during the rare times in the holidays they saw her. They grew up in a lot of tension and under the spotlight. Not saying it was all bad but it clearly affected Harry and i think he was troubled by the time she sadly died.

He then had issues with drink and drugs which seem quite entrenched. He was sent to Africa to get him away and off drink and drugs to no avail. Then years of therapy to no avail. I suspect he may have a personality disorder which are near impossible to treat.

The palace over the years have covered up for him and done a fabulous if a little dishonest, PR job, which i think Harry owes them for, but also the palace and family situation were in many ways had some culpability for the state he was in. They kept him well under the wing of William and Kate for example.
I also feel like they sort of should have protected him more from meeting someone with not great intentions who was also damaged.

Meghan has a really strange family who don't seem that nice and Doria was apparently in prison for many years which must have been so hard. I saw a clip of her when she was about 11 and i see a child so very unhappy.
She also owes the palace who scrubbed her internet past and no doubt organised some NDS to give her a fresh start but again some blame here on the palace as this sort of now feels a bit of a cover up as i think there was rather a lot to cover up and its one thing deleting a few pictures but another to blank this woman's past completely.

Anyway the palace knew and tried their best to manage the pair of them.
They now have both of them using their titles to tour the world and take part in charity work which is really questionable.
Harry in particular is an embarrassing wrecking ball who has the publics interest.
Apparently the palace are worried about Spare 2 and God knows what else when they run out of money.
I think they are right to be worried. At the moment it is an embarrassing car crash after car crash, Africa parks, new York taxis, cringe trip to Nigeria and on and on.

I have no doubt the RF are hurt and angry with them and a NDA would be a very hard pill to swallow but if they want them to go and live quietly and stop embarrassing the royal family i think they are going to have to pay for it to the tune of a few million a year in exchange for some clear rules.

Was Doria in prison? Why?
Did the palace scrub Meghan’s internet past? I thought that was pretty much impossible. What evidence is there of this?

what would be the point of an NDA knowing that if it was broken it would result in a court case the exact thing they would not want to do.

That's a really good point. Harry thinks nothing of spending millions on unwinnable cases. Again he is ripe for exploitation. I am also sure that the palace would have considered all options and if they abandoned this one then there must have been good reasons. So they are left with the option of sitting around waiting for him to run out of money and write Spare 2 and get bashed with that.

I am not sure this is the answer . I think Harry and Meghan were asked not to trade off the Royal titles . Well , not sure there. I think the RF are better off just playing a long game and I think H&M will end up just looking more Ruritanian ( have I got that right ? ) So more like Austrian , German , Italian other European etc people who inherited titles but which are are meaningless. Given I think Harry doesn't have a lot to offer apart from dissing the RF if I were them I would say publish and be damned . I think his USP is becoming slightly boring.

How could the Palace have prevented Harry, in his ,30s, from forming a relationship ?

Let him.

What more really is there to be said? William got more chips at lunch? Kate wouldn't let Meghan drink out of her coffee cup?

With every year that passes where he is no longer at any royal events or in contact with the family, his 'brand' becomes more and more stale. I agree with at @BasiliskStare that it won't be long before he and his wife are basically Eurotrash. Whatever damage he could do to his family has already been done, but for the most part, it's rebounded on him.

So they are left with the option of sitting around waiting for him to run out of money and write Spare 2 and get bashed with that.

The RF war-gamed the top 100 potential adverse revelations for the 2022 NF documentary. 'Spare' was published in January 2023. No sign of the paperback (due two months ago) and reports it didn't make back Harold's advance.

Harold appears to be a toothless tiger...

@ilovemoney - Good point I don't care how much of his own money he spends on litigation - what I do not want is him spending taxpayers money trying to be a ViiP - I look forward to the final judgment and if he loses I hope he pays it back very quickly. Quick to look at he can earn - very determined to get other people to pay for things for him. I am not sure what goes through his head but as a non working Royal he should not have Royal protection as a matter of course. If he is visiting his father then of course that will be covered when he is with them but other than that I think he thinks he is more important than he is.

Does it ever in the world in space occur to him that the money , the privileges , the titles he has which get him eg some of these awards , Netflix etc money , patronages are only because he is the 2nd son of the King. I am struggling to see his innate skills . OK he isn't the heir but whilst we have our monarchy - that's how it works Harry.

I am increasingly getting more frustrated with his woe is me narrative. & also with dabbling in things he has no proper expertise in.

@IcedPurple h ha - is is verging on Eurotrash - I agree.

Whatever your views on H & M, it is entirely wrong to speculate about Doria's past. She has not sought publicity at any point.

apparently she served about 10 years for drug offences and Meghan was brought up during that time by her father.
There are very very few pictures or stories about Meghan from her past. The royal family are very PR savvy. She was marrying into them. Vetting and cleaning up is PR par for the course as they knew there would be global scrutiny.

This. It's just a bit pathetic now.

I meant it in the context of Meghans troubled past. It is widely reported for some time. I am not getting at Doria. Doria did appear in their netflix documentary in support of Meghan so she has entered the fray to be fair.

@BasiliskStare - you're right, all the criticisms and attacks on the RF - where would Harry be without his title? He's the son of the king and the son of Diana. Nothing on merit.

yes this is a good point but they knew he was struggling with addiction and mental health issues for a long time so was vulnerable so perhaps could have been more proactive in supporting him. To be fair William did have the conversation with him early on about his concerns about Meghan and said he had had his arm around his brother etc etc

I think the royals are doing a splendid job by ignoring the tantrums. Eventually they’ll run out of steam.

Charles has already given them millions. Harry has millions from his late mother and, apparently, from other relatives.
He wants more. He wants limitless taxpayer funded protection on his whim.
I don't see why Charles should pay even more.

How do you know they weren't proactive in supporting him?

The RF war-gamed the top 100 potential adverse revelations for the 2022 NF documentary. 'Spare' was published in January 2023.
What does this mean? There were 100 possible secrets the RF were worried Harry would reveal?

😂more sausage based drama, probably!

I believe they were supporting him proactively. What i have written above is that perhaps they could have anticipated this situation and been more proactive. It appears that Harry is a mentally unstable addict. They are the royal family. Perhaps should have been paying closer attention to who he was going to get into a relationship with and God forbid marry.

So. You think that the RF should have somehow prevented Harry from marrying Meghan. Even though that would go against his human and civil rights? 🙄

@EmpressOfTheThread Charles has already given them millions. Harry has millions from his late mother and, apparently, from other relatives.
He wants more. He wants limitless taxpayer funded protection on his whim.
I don't see why Charles should pay even more

I agree but Harry and Meghan care about money and need more than a few million. They are a risk to the royal family. It would be galling for the Royal family to pay them off but i wonder should they just suck it up and pay them off to get rid of the risk.

I don’t know of a single credible source that says Doria was in prison - it’s rubbish. She’s the only classy thing in Meghan’s life. There is a theory (again no credible source) that she was a flight attendant which is why Meghan lived with her father due to the unsociable hours which is much more likely. Either way, she is the one side of that mess of a family (I heartily include Harry in this) who has behaved with any sense or dignity.

@DuchessOfPort I agree. Meghan was brought up by her father, but Doria could have been out of the picture for many reasons, probably her job.

@EmpressOfTheThread So. You think that the RF should have somehow prevented Harry from marrying Meghan. Even though that would go against his human and civil rights? 🙄

You are sort of perhaps deliberately misunderstanding what i have written. I will try again. The RF knew that Harry was a mentally unwell addict. He was a risk. Perhaps they should have better anticipated Harry getting into a relationship with someone really exploitative and unsuitable because of Harrys position in life. He is the son of the Monarch and the brother and the eventual uncle to the Monarch. Perhaps a bit more pro active, considering his vulnerability.