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Royal family should consider paying H & M off by way of an NDA?

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ilovemoney · 07/08/2024 20:06

Harry and Meghan had difficult childhoods. I liked Diana but she was unstable, didn't see much of them and they witnessed her being unstable or with a recent boyfriend during the rare times in the holidays they saw her. They grew up in a lot of tension and under the spotlight. Not saying it was all bad but it clearly affected Harry and i think he was troubled by the time she sadly died.

He then had issues with drink and drugs which seem quite entrenched. He was sent to Africa to get him away and off drink and drugs to no avail. Then years of therapy to no avail. I suspect he may have a personality disorder which are near impossible to treat.

The palace over the years have covered up for him and done a fabulous if a little dishonest, PR job, which i think Harry owes them for, but also the palace and family situation were in many ways had some culpability for the state he was in. They kept him well under the wing of William and Kate for example.
I also feel like they sort of should have protected him more from meeting someone with not great intentions who was also damaged.

Meghan has a really strange family who don't seem that nice and Doria was apparently in prison for many years which must have been so hard. I saw a clip of her when she was about 11 and i see a child so very unhappy.
She also owes the palace who scrubbed her internet past and no doubt organised some NDS to give her a fresh start but again some blame here on the palace as this sort of now feels a bit of a cover up as i think there was rather a lot to cover up and its one thing deleting a few pictures but another to blank this woman's past completely.

Anyway the palace knew and tried their best to manage the pair of them.
They now have both of them using their titles to tour the world and take part in charity work which is really questionable.
Harry in particular is an embarrassing wrecking ball who has the publics interest.
Apparently the palace are worried about Spare 2 and God knows what else when they run out of money.
I think they are right to be worried. At the moment it is an embarrassing car crash after car crash, Africa parks, new York taxis, cringe trip to Nigeria and on and on.

I have no doubt the RF are hurt and angry with them and a NDA would be a very hard pill to swallow but if they want them to go and live quietly and stop embarrassing the royal family i think they are going to have to pay for it to the tune of a few million a year in exchange for some clear rules.

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ilovemoney · 07/08/2024 22:50

DuchessOfPort · 07/08/2024 22:43

I don’t know of a single credible source that says Doria was in prison - it’s rubbish. She’s the only classy thing in Meghan’s life. There is a theory (again no credible source) that she was a flight attendant which is why Meghan lived with her father due to the unsociable hours which is much more likely. Either way, she is the one side of that mess of a family (I heartily include Harry in this) who has behaved with any sense or dignity.

It has been a persistent rumour. I have no idea if it is true or not. Doria was very welcomed by the RF. She repaid them by including herself in a really explosive and vile documentary trashing them and the queens legacy, so yeah, go Doria, classy.....

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EmpressOfTheThread · 07/08/2024 22:50

I am not deliberately misunderstanding. You need to be clearer.
I don't know what you mean by "a bit more proactive"?
Are you saying that the RF should have stopped Harry marrying Meghan?

NeverMindTheBackProblems · 07/08/2024 22:57

So the RF offer to pay H&M off in return for an NDA - and they refuse and go public about it. Imagine the headlines!

Kelly51 · 07/08/2024 23:01

Doris wasnt in prison, Meghan lived with her dad whilst her mother went to university. The utter tosh people believe.

bouncybouncingboobies · 07/08/2024 23:05

Utterly bonkers!

Rhaidimiddim · 07/08/2024 23:17

Such a move would set a precedent. Who would be next to demand an NDA?

BasiliskStare · 07/08/2024 23:20

In my opinion ( and other opinions are available ) the WRF should not pay Harry off -he already has £££££££££m in inheritance . & why should they sign an NDA when a lot of what H& indeed M have said has been proven to be untrue or trivial.

If I blew out my birthday candle and I could have a quick wish - I would love to see H&M interviewed by Jeremy Paxman in his prime ( is that naughty ? ) , but of course would never happen - they like soft interviews

I suspect the RF were a little concerned by how quickly Harry got married , but whilst I suspect ( I don't know) that Meghan had Harry really quickly wrapped her little finger and was keen to get the title and ring - I suspect for different reasons Harry was equally keen to get married quickly. & How do you stop someone doing that . You can't. Any advice he had seemed to go right over his head and then turned around on the people giving it.

I am not one who hopes it all falls apart and they get divorced . I hope it was a coup de foundre and they are happy together. I do think them being appreciative of what they have and perhaps warmer towards the wider family would be something which they could think about. But - not my circus

Thedom · 07/08/2024 23:31

I don't think there is much more they can say that would have any impact, , they have lost any leverage they may have had during those early days, they have nothing to hold over the RF anymore, because a) no one believes much of what they say, b) anything they do say is seen as coming from a vengeful and spiteful stance.

To be fair, there are not too many things that are worse than insisting someone is a racist, and while they claimed they would never disclose who supposedly mentioned what their future offspring might look like, stating it would be 'too damaging' , it barely caused a ripple when the two Royals were named because Harry and Meghan are so discredited. The only real impact it had was to garner more sympathy and support for Charles and Catherine, who are now more popular than ever and the reputation of Harry and Meghan is almost in the toilet.

They don't have any more games to play, they lost, it was a spectacular own goal.

An NDA would be pointless, although i do think if they wanted to spill the beans on Uncle Andrew they would likely get an interested audience for that, and another big pay day from Oprah, no doubt.

MadameMassiveSalad · 08/08/2024 05:59

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HamSad · 08/08/2024 06:19

So Doria was supposedly in jail for a decade and not single person - cell mate, staff member, whatever - has come forward to say they remember her being there? Come on. I'm no H&M fan but let's exercise a tiny bit of critical thought, please.

TemuSpecialBuy · 08/08/2024 06:25

Vespanest · 07/08/2024 20:16

what would be the point of an NDA knowing that if it was broken it would result in a court case the exact thing they would not want to do.

This.

Orrrrr they’d do an entire Netflix series about the fact they were offered an nda which is proof!!! Of something nefarious but they can’t say exactly what it’s proof of because they are keeping it classy, innit?

they should be embarrassed.
I think initially people were like “fair enough Harry. Go your own way.”
but it’s clear the pair of them are grifters.
their half truths, insinuations, implied comments, dining out on their royal status while claiming they hate it and don’t want it, the meandering navel gazing “charity” which has now been suspended, meghans imaginary “lifestyle brand” which seemingly is 50 jars of jam.
Trying to make the death of his grandmother all about him and his feels…again. Can you imagine how the queen must have been having spent decades trying to secure the monarchy only to have him and Andrew come along in the 11th hour trying to fuck it all up. His face is the last thing I’d have wanted to see on my death bed…

its the great grift.
the RF are playing the long game and giving him NOTHING and the lack of oxygen must be killing them as they can’t monetise it.
its 💯 the right thing to do.

MrsLeonFarrell · 08/08/2024 08:01

I thought the Doria was in prison rumour had finally died a death, apparently not. It isn't true. Let's not bring twitter rubbish here, again.

I'm not sure how the family was supposed to control who Harry married, he isn't a child. The culture of arranging marriages in the aristocracy and the Royal family died out years ago. And good thing too. I don't see evidence he is unhappy in his choice, if you ignore the photos taken from odd angles or artfully edited videos of course.

Harry will come into more money when he turns 40, from IIRC, the Queen Mother. He isn't short of cash at all as far as I can see.

I think if nothing else this whole sad saga has proved the value of never complain, never explain. Fires die without oxygen, gossip and varying recollections do as well.

MissMoneyFairy · 08/08/2024 08:15

Hi Megan

EdithWeston · 08/08/2024 08:32

I think it would show poor judgement by the Palace to change strategy when the current one is working well for them.

The Sussex reputation for accurate recollection of events is in tatters (and I don’t mean different weight on small details, but big things like not being alone when told of HMQM’s death) and I think any further revelations will garner amused attention but not necessarily be believed.

Meghan could however ruin Harry’s reputation in a myriad ways if she were so minded. But who would do that to the father of their DC?

Thinkingabouttherapy · 08/08/2024 08:33

MissMoneyFairy · 08/08/2024 08:15

Hi Megan

I was thinking Harry…

This smacks of the delusional ‘manifesting’ articles in People etc with quotes from Sussex ‘friends’ or ‘sources’… the references to Harry’s mental health and the ridiculous rumours about Doria are added to lend an ‘impartial’ air..

Bottom line: the gravy train is over & the royals won’t be bankrolling them or bailing them out again - their grifting tours of third world regimes are likely the only way ahead.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 08/08/2024 08:40

Fires die without oxygen, gossip and varying recollections do as well
Please let this also apply to the cottage Meghan and Harry industry of 'Royal commentators/ reporters/body lsnguage experts/lipreaders' who are making more money than they ever dreamed of out of every single movement they make. If people who say they hate them so much and want them to go away actually stop mentioning them at every opportunity, and even in things that are not about them, they would disappear. If people really thought they were irrelevant, they would disappear. They announce they are going to Colombia/Nigeria wherever. So what? Meghan selling some jam? So what? Let them be. The reason the press report on everything they do is because they know they will drive a mountain of traffic to their site. The reason they get given prizes and invited to events is because obscure prizes no one has heard of are suddenly mentioned worldwide, even if it is ' how dare Harry accept a prize he was awarded!' They are goldmine, and they are a goldmine because people who hate them are obsessed with talking about them at every opportunity.

stillavid · 08/08/2024 08:43

Personally I think some type of settlement agreement should have been negotiated when H&M stepped back but it is way too late now.

As others have said, what really is there left to say? I mean their staunch supporters will continue to believe them but a lot of people just find them irrelevant.

I mean, I like to watch the drama and enjoy seeing what Meghan wears but that's about it.

Rhaidimiddim · 08/08/2024 09:16

"But who would do that to the father of their DC?"

A narc. Children are there to serve the narc's needs, not vice versa.

CathyorClaire · 08/08/2024 09:51

DramaLlamaBangBang · 07/08/2024 22:35

The RF war-gamed the top 100 potential adverse revelations for the 2022 NF documentary. 'Spare' was published in January 2023.
What does this mean? There were 100 possible secrets the RF were worried Harry would reveal?

Yes.

Appalling that they could come up with more than 100 in the first place let alone rank them.

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1706713/royal-family-prince-harry-meghan-markle-documentary-netflix-dxus

Thedom · 08/08/2024 10:02

H&M are the ones driving and actively promoting the 'Cottage Industry" of interest. I don't think most people 'hate them', but people see through their tactics. it's good they are being called out for all their phony publicity stunts.

If they didn't make effusive public announcements about tours, paying for awards etc. or pay for TV segments, TV shows, books, magazine spreads, along with having their 'friends' promote the H&M brand,, the papers would have nothing to write about.

They have a global PR team working tirelessly to promote H&M, they have hired one of the biggest management companies in the entertainment industry, they are the ones obsessed with fame and publicity.

Rhaidimiddim · 08/08/2024 10:03

CathyorClaire · 08/08/2024 09:51

Yes.

Appalling that they could come up with more than 100 in the first place let alone rank them.

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1706713/royal-family-prince-harry-meghan-markle-documentary-netflix-dxus

But that article is all supposition - should, would, could - about a supposed crisis team that might have been hired (before, or because of the forthcoming revelations) to counter this supposed list of allegations the RF supposedly expected to be made.

All the supposition coming from "a reputation management, crisis management and digital marketing expert" - so someone touting his trade and explaining how he would handle the situation.

But the RF did - nothing. They grey rocked.

So, no evidence that they ever did have this list of 100 potentially adverse revelations in the first place.

BTW that same tabloid is now reporting that Meghan was very unhappy with the Pauley interview and bawled out the producers and productions staff (rather like her reported behaviour towards her KP staff - ironic after an interview about bullying, eh?). How do you feel about that report - reliable, or made-up hooey?

Edited for typos

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/08/2024 10:13

ilovemoney · 07/08/2024 22:26

apparently she served about 10 years for drug offences and Meghan was brought up during that time by her father.
There are very very few pictures or stories about Meghan from her past. The royal family are very PR savvy. She was marrying into them. Vetting and cleaning up is PR par for the course as they knew there would be global scrutiny.

I don't pretend to know whether the "Doria rumours" are true or not and don't tend to take much notice of rumours anyway, but I'm absolutely confident the palace will know, and as with Edward VIII things are sometimes learned years later which for varying reasons were withheld at the time

Otherwise I agree that the RF are right to play the long game on this whole mess, not least because there's not much else they can do without making the situation even worse and risking Harry's mental health further

Theunamedcat · 08/08/2024 10:31

I thought it was tax evasion she did a few months for and there was an agreement that Rachel/meghan was better off with dad for school because he was by better schools?

Less salacious but 🤷‍♀️

Theunamedcat · 08/08/2024 10:34

Personally I don't care about the prison part but the school rumour has a ring of truth to it? It seems more common in America to school with one parent and holiday with another also in the UK I have a friend who sent her children to their fathers almost every holiday

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/08/2024 10:40

‘An NDA would be pointless, although i do think if they wanted to spill the beans on Uncle Andrew they would likely get an interested audience for that, and another big pay day from Oprah, no doubt.’

why would Harry have any beans to spill on Andrew, though? He’s not especially close to him, and of a different generation….unless you are trying to imply they had shared pastimes ( don’t believe that personally)

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