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German documentary about Meghan

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sausawyee · 26/07/2024 09:03

www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

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wordler · 13/08/2024 20:02

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 19:52

@wordler I don't think that one is a bizarre coincidence at all- just women wearing perfectly usual casual clothes....

Women who both just happened to be in an African country on a humanitarian visit, posing for photographers to publicise their visit?

Wearing the exact same outfit, doing exactly the same pose? For the same type of charity visit?

Again it was either on purpose or a bizarre coincidence.

JudgeJ · 13/08/2024 20:09

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 19:06

@wordler I am perfectly prepared to believe that both K and M role play Diana on occasion- but I'm pretty sure that most of us have a picture of ourselves wearing dark bottoms and tied or tucked white shirt with sunglasses?

Exactly what I was thinking, my photo is probably about 60 years ago so they were both channelling me, obviously!

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 20:09

Fair enough. Personally, I think the "designer" examples are much more telling....

smilesy · 13/08/2024 20:13

wordler · 13/08/2024 20:02

Women who both just happened to be in an African country on a humanitarian visit, posing for photographers to publicise their visit?

Wearing the exact same outfit, doing exactly the same pose? For the same type of charity visit?

Again it was either on purpose or a bizarre coincidence.

I agree. I think the point being missed is not so much just what she was wearing as how and where she was styling and wearing it

AnnieMcFanny · 13/08/2024 20:43

Mylovelygreendress · 12/08/2024 22:43

I always thought that Meghan assumed that 2 brothers would be treated equally and that she and Harry would have equal status to William and Catherine . For reasons we don’t know , she has a deep dislike of Catherine and wasn’t willing to walk behind her or have second choice of tiara etc .

That’s it in a nutshell.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2024 21:53

Gorgonemilezola · 13/08/2024 19:56

Do people wear their sunglasses like that? I would have thought it's far more usual to wear them on your head - especially for Meghan with long hair. I don't think I've ever seen anyone irl tuck them into the top of their shirt.

She wears sunglasses a lot but never seen them hanging of her shirt since that picture!

InsomniacIda · 13/08/2024 21:58

AnnieMcFanny · 13/08/2024 20:43

That’s it in a nutshell.

How stupid she must be if she doesn’t realise one of the brothers is going to be King and the other isn’t. It isn’t hard to understand . Even if she knows nothing about the Monarchy, children’s story books should have taught her that at least.

wordler · 13/08/2024 22:01

InsomniacIda · 13/08/2024 21:58

How stupid she must be if she doesn’t realise one of the brothers is going to be King and the other isn’t. It isn’t hard to understand . Even if she knows nothing about the Monarchy, children’s story books should have taught her that at least.

Well to be fair Harry might have sold it to her as William gets to be the trapped dutiful one and Harry gets to be the glamorous sibling like Margaret or the sibling who exploits the system for his own pleasure and advantage like Andrew.

What she didn’t realize is just how cash poor Harry was compared to his surroundings.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 13/08/2024 22:09

wordler · 13/08/2024 18:35

I think before the wedding she was carried away with all the positive publicity and the novelty of being married to a Prince and the cachet it was giving her. Also I'm fairly sure Harry exaggerated what would happen after the marriage - or perhaps he didn't remember / fully understand the situation himself.

He probably vaguely remembered Kate and William living in Nott Cottage and then getting Anmer and the big KP apartment after they were married. It probably didn't sink in that they did three years including a period after George was born between Nott Cottage and the Welsh farm house they were renting.

They were given Anmer Hall as a wedding gift but it took a while for them to renovate and move there during William's Air Ambulance stint.

If Harry and Meghan had stayed and followed the same timeline they would have lived in Nott Cottage from 2018 until 2020. Taken a country residence as a wedding gift from the Queen, and then after three years upgraded their London residence or commuting distance residence.

So all that moaning in Space about how shocked Harry was seeing William's big KP apartment and comparing it to Nott Cott rang very false because

  1. The first time he noticed the difference between the size of Nott Cott and William's apartment was the day he visited with Meghan. They moved into the apartment in 2013. Harry was photographed inside it when the Obamas visited in 2016.
  2. He should have known that Kate and William managed in Nott Cott for three years and that he was going to move on eventually to something better too.

That scene describing how it felt to look around at W&K's apartment furnished with antiques etc sounds like it came straight from Meghan - she might have been shocked at the difference in William and Harry's homes but Harry can't have been he's been in and out of residences like that his whole life.

I completely agree that it doesn’t ring true in Harry’s case. I think he also says in Spare that (pre Meghan) he waited and waited for William and Catherine to invite him over but they never did. I thought that all sounded very unlikely.

The reality is that the Sussexes expected to bypass the “hard yards” (hardly hard, when it’s free, Central London real estate) of modest living and go straight in at the same level as William and Catherine, both in terms of accommodation and standing within the hierarchy. And Meghan clearly was not prepared to play second fiddle to Catherine when that status was baked into her role.

InsomniacIda · 13/08/2024 22:10

I think he has exploited the system for his own pleasure and advantage. He has none of the obligation or expectation now, lots of money and freedom to live how he wants to. Yet he still whines on …

friendlycat · 13/08/2024 22:20

I should imagine there’s lots that Harry didn’t explicitly explain to her. In the throes of heady love a lot can also be assumed, quite incorrectly as well when blinkered love goggles give a distorted impression. Throw in cultural differences and it was always going to be a bit of a tough ride. Add in their two personalities and it becomes almost impossible.

Harry seems to disregard lots of things such as William and Kate living in a small cottage for a number of years without the splendour of their current residences. He also seems to have rewritten certain parts of his past and his views and expectations of his future.

But their current lifestyle is the rub here as the enormous amounts of money required to maintain this year in year out costs mega money. They need to constantly make money to life this lifestyle and the money isn’t just rolling in. The A list American celebrity pack have hundreds of millions banked and future revenue streams. This just doesn’t apply to H and M. The perceived injustice that perhaps they feel due to William and Catherine having a revenue stream and that of Charles must add to the victim hood that Harry has.

But as their “star factor” depletes the money making process is just going to get worse. I should imagine this is something his father and brother are only too well aware of.

JaneJeffer · 13/08/2024 23:57

What I think any time someone posts a picture of Wallis

German documentary about Meghan
German documentary about Meghan
CatrionaBalfour · 14/08/2024 05:39

InsomniacIda · 13/08/2024 22:10

I think he has exploited the system for his own pleasure and advantage. He has none of the obligation or expectation now, lots of money and freedom to live how he wants to. Yet he still whines on …

It'll never stop, because the whining, complaining and victimhood has become his lifestyle and income stream.

BalloonSlayer · 14/08/2024 06:56

No fan of Meghan but surely if you are a stylist given the remit of dressing a royal for an occasion you look for inspiration from past successes. Given that Meghan has lots of criticism every time she "gets it wrong" clothes-wise (and otherwise!) any stylist/designer is going to look at what worked for others in the past and work from there.

I reckon you could find many more similarities between Kate's outfits and Wallis Simpson's than Meghan's and Wallis's. She wore an outfit to Pippa's wedding that i thought wasn't very nice (possibly deliberately not to upstage) which looked very WS to me.

The Diana one wasn't that way before Meghan and Harry met? I could imagine me doing the same, ooh I am doing a photoshoot with children in a hot country, what should I wear to look the part? Quick google and hey presto.

Baital · 14/08/2024 07:43

I don't have a stylist, as is perfectly obvious from first glance! But isn't a stylist supposed to help their client with a style that works for them?

Yes, they would need to understand iconic looks from other people, plus what is currently fashionable, but then put that together with their client's individual characteristics and the needs of the occasion.

Not just recreate a look for a different person in a different context?

But a lot of the Wallis outfits shown are not iconic, and have very little similarity to M's supposedly equivalent outfit 😂 the Diana comparisons are more obvious, and then there are all the references to talking to her grave, putting the pregnancy test by a lock.of her hair, messages from Xmas ornaments etc

InsomniacIda · 14/08/2024 07:46

BalloonSlayer · 14/08/2024 06:56

No fan of Meghan but surely if you are a stylist given the remit of dressing a royal for an occasion you look for inspiration from past successes. Given that Meghan has lots of criticism every time she "gets it wrong" clothes-wise (and otherwise!) any stylist/designer is going to look at what worked for others in the past and work from there.

I reckon you could find many more similarities between Kate's outfits and Wallis Simpson's than Meghan's and Wallis's. She wore an outfit to Pippa's wedding that i thought wasn't very nice (possibly deliberately not to upstage) which looked very WS to me.

The Diana one wasn't that way before Meghan and Harry met? I could imagine me doing the same, ooh I am doing a photoshoot with children in a hot country, what should I wear to look the part? Quick google and hey presto.

Except that the fashions of the day in both women's time are very outdated now!

CoffeeCantata · 14/08/2024 07:52

I don't understand why anyone would choose to channel Wallis Simpson. Her reputation isn't good in any way, except perhaps for being severely chic. Perhaps Meghan doesn't know much about history?? And, elegant though Wallis was, I don't think anyone could have thought her beautiful.

But I don't think Meghan is a reader, is she?

InsomniacIda · 14/08/2024 07:54

I think she is deliberately aligning herself with a renegade fellow American without really understanding much more about Wallis than that.

Hughs · 14/08/2024 07:57

No fan of Meghan but surely if you are a stylist given the remit of dressing a royal for an occasion you look for inspiration from past successes.

Hmm.. past successes.. a Nazi sympathiser who destabilised the monarchy and was despised by the Queen's family. Referencing the DoW when choosing an outfit for the celebration of the Queen's platinum jubilee is very weird I think. It looks like Meghan is trying to upset the Queen and take the attention away from her.

I'm sure they could have found something without going to all the trouble and expense of having Dior copy a DoW outfit.

Can you post any examples of Kate having a copy of a DoW dress made especially for an event to honour the Queen?

MrsFinkelstein · 14/08/2024 07:59

I have always assumed a stylist will dress you in clothes that suits your body type and colouring.

They will have a look they want to go for and use new as well as vintage to achieve it. But generally don't they look to use what looks good on a person? I always thought they would create looks, not just carbon copy?

I have no idea as I've never had a stylist!

Citrusandginger · 14/08/2024 08:00

I can see how some might embrace the story of the wronged American Divorcee, marrying her prince and being cruelly treated by the wicked royal family. Though as someone once said, recollections may vary.

I'm less sure why a short, attractive woman with curves, would style herself on a tall androgynous shaped one? Wallis may have dressed well, but she was no beauty.

smilesy · 14/08/2024 08:12

Citrusandginger · 14/08/2024 08:00

I can see how some might embrace the story of the wronged American Divorcee, marrying her prince and being cruelly treated by the wicked royal family. Though as someone once said, recollections may vary.

I'm less sure why a short, attractive woman with curves, would style herself on a tall androgynous shaped one? Wallis may have dressed well, but she was no beauty.

Apparently, Meghan is 5’6” and Walllis was only 5’2”. I’m not sure why people seem to think that Meghan is short. She is well above average for a woman. Maybe it’s because she is compared to Catherine who is 5’8” 🤷‍♀️

Mylovelygreendress · 14/08/2024 08:15

@BalloonSlayer
“No fan of Meghan but surely if you are a stylist given the remit of dressing a royal for an occasion you look for inspiration from past successes. Given that Meghan has lots of criticism every time she "gets it wrong" clothes-wise (and otherwise!) any stylist/designer is going to look at what worked for others in the past and work from there.”

Not convinced that Meghan would listen to anyone . If she did she would never have worn that horrendous red thing .

smilesy · 14/08/2024 08:29

Mylovelygreendress · 14/08/2024 08:15

@BalloonSlayer
“No fan of Meghan but surely if you are a stylist given the remit of dressing a royal for an occasion you look for inspiration from past successes. Given that Meghan has lots of criticism every time she "gets it wrong" clothes-wise (and otherwise!) any stylist/designer is going to look at what worked for others in the past and work from there.”

Not convinced that Meghan would listen to anyone . If she did she would never have worn that horrendous red thing .

Didn’t she say she styles herself sometimes as well? Maybe that’s why she doesn’t look, ahem, quite on point all the time 🤷‍♀️

JADS · 14/08/2024 08:35

smilesy · 14/08/2024 08:12

Apparently, Meghan is 5’6” and Walllis was only 5’2”. I’m not sure why people seem to think that Meghan is short. She is well above average for a woman. Maybe it’s because she is compared to Catherine who is 5’8” 🤷‍♀️

I always thought that Wallis was tall, but what I didn't realise was that Edward VIII was only 5'7" so she always appeared tall alongside side him.

Meghan looks shorter than she is probably because you see her next to Wills and Harry who are well over 6 foot, plus Catherine in heels is also nearly 6 foot. Next to Bea and Eugenie, she would look average height.

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