German documentary about Meghan

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www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

Because she wants to paint Kate as the devil incarnate and herself as the huggy, warm, earth mother (but at the same time the beautiful, downtrodden saviour of a poor, poor boy, and a philanthropic Hollywood icon)

Slightly off topic but this “huggy, warm earth mother thing” really makes my teeth itch. Why do you have to be “huggy” to be warm and loving. Especially when it involves hugging people you have never met. I’ve said before, my ND son doesn’t do hugging, but he’s warm, loving and friendly. I suspect Meghan’s huggy thing is performative

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I suspect Meghan’s huggy thing is performative

Totally.

And, I will say this in Meghan's defence: she was brought up around Hollywood film sets. I suspect that her whole childhood and youth was influenced by the kind of performative, showy, OTT behaviour that's absolutely standard in that world. She would have learned very early on that it's not about what you're actually like as a person, it's about behaving in a particular way, always having a fixed smile, looking for the camera, simpering and, of course, hugging.

I guess the English equivalent would be the theatrical use of 'darling'!

Why do people even care?

It’s not just performative, it’s a power move. She gets into people’s personal space and crosses boundaries. She does it in situations where the other person is taken by surprise and/or feels a social obligation to play along. She often touches people on the back to ‘guide’ them when it’s unnecessary, and she hugs, and holds hugs unnaturally long, as a way of crossing boundaries as well as creating little set pieces and photo opportunities showing her being ‘warm’ ‘natural’ etc. Most people are polite and will not make a fuss, but it’s an extremely rude and aggressive behaviour trait (disclaimer - I’m sure some members of the public are delighted to have received a hug from her - that doesn’t negate the wider point)

Anyone remember Heather Mills McCartney? The press sat on her back story out of respect for Paul, but the moment he separated from her they published.

He said the British secret services removed stuff that was in the public domain

Well if that’s true, so much for the institution not looking out for Meghan 🤷‍♀️

No one 'cares'.

And boy was she happy to dish the dirt on everyone else. I have zero sympathy for the pair of them.

And have they condemned the attacks on her?

The abuse she gets is unrelenting.

No-one short of a child abuser or murderer should be subjected to this sort of scale of scrutiny.

Equally I don't think W & K should either. Taking sides as if it's a football team is repugnant. These are people's lives and constantly speculating if someone is going to get divorced, has a personality disorder, is generally a bitch is enough to send anyone over the edge. It's quite disgusting and I don't know how they're allowed to print this stuff.

About what? I'd like to answer your question, but I don't understand it.

I mean her and Harry have been happy enough to profit off of speaking about the lives of others, unfortunately if you give it seems reasonable to be aware you might have to also take it one day. I do agree the rubbish that's printed and the unrelenting nature of it is vile, but if they're actually fact checking this then that sounds quite refreshing.

I doubt most people will care enough to watch it, if they do bar something truly awful ie something illegal which won't be the case then I doubt even many of those who watch it will care what these 'hidden truths' are.

Equally I don't think W & K should either. Taking sides as if it's a football team is repugnant. These are people's lives and constantly speculating if someone is going to get divorced, has a personality disorder, is generally a bitch is enough to send anyone over the edge. It's quite disgusting and I don't know how they're allowed to print this stuff.

I suppose those topics are speculated on in other forums (which I don't participate in) but I've not seen them brought up on MN. I don't speculate about M's marriage on here. I'm aware of some of the rumours, but they don't really concern me - I'm not interested in their intimate lives, only the effect they have on the UK and the RF, and certain individuals they've seemed to target.

What tends to happen on here, and I think it's reasonable, is that people comment on Meghan's (and Harry's) behaviour and utterances (both orally and in print). So - not gossip, not speculation, not 'making things up', but based on their actual conduct and what they've said. If you make yourself a very public figure - even a publicity-hungry figure - then that's fair enough. People are allowed to have an opinion and make reasonable comment.

I wouldn't support speculation about very personal aspects of their lives, but I've never come across that on MN in the time I've been here.

Really? I'd have thought it quite obvious.
Why do people care about Meghan?

Read the responses here. The answer is there for you, if you want to understand it. If you still don't get it after that, formulate a more precise question and I promise I'll try to answer it.

Why do people care about, or comment on, the lives and behaviour of any celebrities or public figures? I imagine there are lots of reasons.

im with @CoffeeCantata in that I’m not interested in speculation about divorce, im also not interested in the children, and im not really interested in any dirt from the past, although I’m certainly not above reading it if it appears.

I find H&M fascinating because of their own behaviour. I find their supporters interesting too. It’s not a crime to be interested in public figures and quite honestly, H&M are the gift that keeps on giving. For as long as they are putting themselves in the public eye, I’ll be watching!

Are you normally so abrasive?
Have a pleasant weekend. 😁

She's seems to be okay with putting others mistakes out their

For as long as they are putting themselves in the public eye, I’ll be watching!

An interesting point, the only way now they can maintain relevance really is by relying on the media to promote their 'brand' and share pictures of them at their events, but whilst they're actively using the media for their own ends it makes it harder to want to control it rather than ask them to leave them alone altogether. This is why the Royals have always had a sort of relationship with the press and lots of celebs do to; they realise they need the media for certain things, and the media benefits by making £££ off of them.

I've heard/read quite dreadful rumours about both H&M, I haven't repeated them on here and haven't seen anyone else do so. This is unlike those quite happy to post the most scurrilous things against W&K, especially around the time she was first out of action because of her illness.

I've also never seen a "pro" RF poster (for want of a better descriptor) say anything negative about Archie and Lili (except the choice of name and that's not about her but her parents)

There is no Kate and William "squad" on MN determined to undermine and tear down Meghan and Harry. There are however people who have opinions on the conduct and words of the latter pair over several years now. There is enough there without the need to make things up or repeat slander.

There's always people who will muck stir and it's often best not to comment. It's like this event which has reared its head again.

Pressed post too soon. Meghan has not responded to it and that is probably the right thing to do but it has brought to attention again to that visit to troops and another awkward stage presence.

Uricon2 · Today 12:26

Completely agree. It's very one-sided, at least on MN. The nastiness comes overwhelmingly on here from H & M supporters.

If only their supporters would actually support them with reasoned arguments! But they never really engage.

I suspect M & H are getting impossible to defend nowadays.

I don't think it helps H&M that they seem to have reframed Britain as a racist, dangerous country, where H is afraid to bring his wife. Has he missed that M is American - land of the one drop rule and guns?
I think the British public on the whole were very happy for H when he met M, there was a genuine pleasure in him having met someone and a lot of public sympathy and good will on account of his mother.
That's not to say there was no racism, but it certainly wasn't from the vast majority of the public. I think it pisses people off that they appear to rewritten their lives here.

He's like the divorced husband who rewrites his previous life to convince himself he is doing the right thing and not to feel guilty.

BirdsEye, that's exactly why they bother me so much. It's because what they've done has (unfairly, in my view) branded this country as racist and bad in so many ways. The UK may be far from perfect, but we're a lot better some - France, in particular, can be quite shockingly tolerant of racism sometimes.

Meghan and Harry might be silly bits of fluff in one sense, but with the power of social media and fake news, they damage they've done, and could do, is not a joke.

The fact that they've gone back on most of their accusations is ironic, but doesn't really erase the damage. It suits many people's agenda to believe the UK and the RF are racist and they're not going to let that one go.

Thanks, Harry.