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German documentary about Meghan

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sausawyee · 26/07/2024 09:03

www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/every-detail-will-be-checked-bombshell-meghan-markle-documentary-delayed-while-producers-seek-legal-advice/news-story/e56d56d3e60f37af6a31da01b455f0b2?amp

I have seen several newspapers referring to this German documentary. It's the first I've heard of it.

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Iwasafool · 13/08/2024 17:31

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2024 17:19

Bit of a mixed bag, I mean the red dress is only similar because it is a red dress, can't see any other connection. The navy dresses have different necklines, different sleeve lengths, Meghan's dress is different at the bottom.

Yes the white outfit is very very similar but some of the rest of it is just silly in my opinion.

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2024 17:34

images.app.goo.gl/6ad6p8oLNNkNUNr2A

And these .

InsomniacIda · 13/08/2024 17:35

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2024 17:34

She’s very clearly imitating Wallis Simpson. When she isn’t doing that she’s imitating Diana.

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2024 17:39

www.vanityfair.it/gallery/meghan-markle-come-wallis-simpson-vestiti-look

Vanity fair Italy has noticed too!

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2024 17:42

nypost.com/2022/10/05/meghan-markle-photos-draw-comparisons-to-wallis-simpson/

And nypost so not just U.K. media .

Iwasafool · 13/08/2024 17:49

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2024 17:42

Look at the yellow dresses, yes they are both yellow and they are both dresses, neckline different, one sleeveless one with little cap sleeves, one is longer than the other, one has a big black band at the bottom. I mean other than they are both yellow dresses what is the similarity? I'm no Meghan fan but honestly she's going to have a hard life is she can never wear anything in a colour the DoW ever wore, so far we have had white/black/plain/pattered/red/blue/yellow all seemingly out of bounds.

Gorgonemilezola · 13/08/2024 17:53

Iwasafool · 13/08/2024 17:49

Look at the yellow dresses, yes they are both yellow and they are both dresses, neckline different, one sleeveless one with little cap sleeves, one is longer than the other, one has a big black band at the bottom. I mean other than they are both yellow dresses what is the similarity? I'm no Meghan fan but honestly she's going to have a hard life is she can never wear anything in a colour the DoW ever wore, so far we have had white/black/plain/pattered/red/blue/yellow all seemingly out of bounds.

I agree with you.

wordler · 13/08/2024 17:55

I don't think Meghan planned a whole 'become royal, then hotfoot it back to America with the title' campaign - because she's clearly not that strategic.

I do think she was either misled/badly informed or ignored what Harry and other people were telling her about the life within the Royal Family.

A lot of her misconceptions come from being American and ignorant of the level of protocol and 'rules' that the royal family and the wider aristocratic circles run their life by.

She said a line in the Oprah interview that I thought was very telling "it's not like you expect / see in the movies".

And there was also the incredulity that Oprah expressed at the size of Nottingham Cottage.

From the outside (to an American) being a member of the royal family looks like being an A list Celebrity on acid.

But it's a very different day to day life than Hollywood A listers - look at the type of house Meghan and Harry bought when they had their freedom.

She preferred the private jet to Elton John's villa rather than muddy walks and group parlour games in rainy Balmoral.

The glossy tiara events are few and far between - and even then you have to sit next to and entertain the Polish foreign minister's spouse for several hours after you've had your glamourous photo taken.

I really think she (and Oprah) thought life was like The Princess Diaries - montages of fabulous outfit and jewelry changes, huge fancy castles etc. But the royals don't really 'live' in the fancy parts of the castles and palaces - they keep those reception rooms for official business and live down the hall in cosy, dog haired covered, homey spaces. Or those who love art and fine furniture live with very formal, irreplaceable antiques that can be traced back for generations.

Look at how much grief the Middleton's got for their 'middle class' tastes - Carole was accused of being twee and bourgeoisie in her house decorating style and blamed for doing up Anmer Hall to be like that.

I'm sure Meghan experienced even more snobbery about her American tastes.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 13/08/2024 18:05

Well maybe that's where a little humility and accepting the help of Sophie, Lady Hussey and/or the Queen's equerry, Nana Kofi Twumasi-Ankrah (instead of rejecting him because he was black because the optics didn't please MM - Omid Scobie) would have come in handy; maybe that's where taking an extended honeymoon to adjust, as the Queen had suggested, should have been taken up. Why did this woman who claimed she didn't know how to bow, didn't know the British national anthem, didn't know who core members of the RF were (Andrew the butler), didn't even know who her bf was and basically didn't know anything, simultaneously claim that she could hit the ground running and do service better than any royal? Hit the ground, period, more like it. She's an arrogant idiot who thought cos playing her way through the RF was going to work.

friendlycat · 13/08/2024 18:08

Iwasafool · 13/08/2024 17:49

Look at the yellow dresses, yes they are both yellow and they are both dresses, neckline different, one sleeveless one with little cap sleeves, one is longer than the other, one has a big black band at the bottom. I mean other than they are both yellow dresses what is the similarity? I'm no Meghan fan but honestly she's going to have a hard life is she can never wear anything in a colour the DoW ever wore, so far we have had white/black/plain/pattered/red/blue/yellow all seemingly out of bounds.

I have to agree and I'm certainly no fan of either of them.

Hughs · 13/08/2024 18:24

I agree - for me it's really only the platinum jubilee white coat dress and maybe the bird dropping Oprah one, the hair also v similar there.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2024 18:28

I don't think Meghan planned a whole 'become royal, then hotfoot it back to America with the title' campaign - because she's clearly not that strategic

I think she absolutely is strategic, she set out to bag a Brit, Ashley Cole was her number one choice until Lizzy Cundy warned her off, she managed to land dopey Harry and no doubt thought she could use this to her advantage in Hollywood.

I do think she was either misled/badly informed or ignored what Harry and other people were telling her about the life within the Royal Family.

Sophie offered her services to help Meghan, the Queen assigned an equerry, both refused by Meghan, it’s her own fault if she didn’t understand what royal life entailed, I don’t think she ever had any interest in staying or playing second fiddle to Catherine.

She said a line in the Oprah interview that I thought was very telling "it's not like you expect / see in the movies".

And yet we are told what an intelligent woman she supposedly is, a quick google on the royal website would tell her what royals do.

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 13/08/2024 18:33

Hughs · 13/08/2024 18:24

I agree - for me it's really only the platinum jubilee white coat dress and maybe the bird dropping Oprah one, the hair also v similar there.

I agree, but would also add this one. Diana is her main form of cosplay.

German documentary about Meghan
JADS · 13/08/2024 18:35

Hughs · 13/08/2024 18:24

I agree - for me it's really only the platinum jubilee white coat dress and maybe the bird dropping Oprah one, the hair also v similar there.

I agree. While the Dior Jubliee one is very Wallis, the rest are a bit spurious. I'm on the fence about the Oprah dress.

wordler · 13/08/2024 18:35

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 13/08/2024 18:05

Well maybe that's where a little humility and accepting the help of Sophie, Lady Hussey and/or the Queen's equerry, Nana Kofi Twumasi-Ankrah (instead of rejecting him because he was black because the optics didn't please MM - Omid Scobie) would have come in handy; maybe that's where taking an extended honeymoon to adjust, as the Queen had suggested, should have been taken up. Why did this woman who claimed she didn't know how to bow, didn't know the British national anthem, didn't know who core members of the RF were (Andrew the butler), didn't even know who her bf was and basically didn't know anything, simultaneously claim that she could hit the ground running and do service better than any royal? Hit the ground, period, more like it. She's an arrogant idiot who thought cos playing her way through the RF was going to work.

I think before the wedding she was carried away with all the positive publicity and the novelty of being married to a Prince and the cachet it was giving her. Also I'm fairly sure Harry exaggerated what would happen after the marriage - or perhaps he didn't remember / fully understand the situation himself.

He probably vaguely remembered Kate and William living in Nott Cottage and then getting Anmer and the big KP apartment after they were married. It probably didn't sink in that they did three years including a period after George was born between Nott Cottage and the Welsh farm house they were renting.

They were given Anmer Hall as a wedding gift but it took a while for them to renovate and move there during William's Air Ambulance stint.

If Harry and Meghan had stayed and followed the same timeline they would have lived in Nott Cottage from 2018 until 2020. Taken a country residence as a wedding gift from the Queen, and then after three years upgraded their London residence or commuting distance residence.

So all that moaning in Space about how shocked Harry was seeing William's big KP apartment and comparing it to Nott Cott rang very false because

  1. The first time he noticed the difference between the size of Nott Cott and William's apartment was the day he visited with Meghan. They moved into the apartment in 2013. Harry was photographed inside it when the Obamas visited in 2016.
  2. He should have known that Kate and William managed in Nott Cott for three years and that he was going to move on eventually to something better too.

That scene describing how it felt to look around at W&K's apartment furnished with antiques etc sounds like it came straight from Meghan - she might have been shocked at the difference in William and Harry's homes but Harry can't have been he's been in and out of residences like that his whole life.

Hughs · 13/08/2024 18:36

Oh I hadn't seen that before @Theinflictuswithrictusgames
That's definitely another one, even down to the earrings

I have seen quite a few Diana moments, also a very weird thing to do imo, to dress as your dead MIL 😬

Mylovelygreendress · 13/08/2024 18:38

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2024 18:28

I don't think Meghan planned a whole 'become royal, then hotfoot it back to America with the title' campaign - because she's clearly not that strategic

I think she absolutely is strategic, she set out to bag a Brit, Ashley Cole was her number one choice until Lizzy Cundy warned her off, she managed to land dopey Harry and no doubt thought she could use this to her advantage in Hollywood.

I do think she was either misled/badly informed or ignored what Harry and other people were telling her about the life within the Royal Family.

Sophie offered her services to help Meghan, the Queen assigned an equerry, both refused by Meghan, it’s her own fault if she didn’t understand what royal life entailed, I don’t think she ever had any interest in staying or playing second fiddle to Catherine.

She said a line in the Oprah interview that I thought was very telling "it's not like you expect / see in the movies".

And yet we are told what an intelligent woman she supposedly is, a quick google on the royal website would tell her what royals do.

Let’s not forget the dossier Meghan was given to help her find her feet ( never opened apparently), Camilla offered to take her for lunch and help her which was also refused . Yet she was angry/ hurt that Catherine didn’t take her shopping !

wordler · 13/08/2024 18:40

Hughs · 13/08/2024 18:36

Oh I hadn't seen that before @Theinflictuswithrictusgames
That's definitely another one, even down to the earrings

I have seen quite a few Diana moments, also a very weird thing to do imo, to dress as your dead MIL 😬

I'm never usually on board with all the sweet nods etc to Diana that both Kate and Meghan are supposedly doing with their outfits because Diana wore so many different outfits that it would be hard to not find a colour, spotty, stripy, etc style that she didn't wear.

However.....

This photo makes Meghan look insane.

German documentary about Meghan
wordler · 13/08/2024 19:02

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2024 18:28

I don't think Meghan planned a whole 'become royal, then hotfoot it back to America with the title' campaign - because she's clearly not that strategic

I think she absolutely is strategic, she set out to bag a Brit, Ashley Cole was her number one choice until Lizzy Cundy warned her off, she managed to land dopey Harry and no doubt thought she could use this to her advantage in Hollywood.

I do think she was either misled/badly informed or ignored what Harry and other people were telling her about the life within the Royal Family.

Sophie offered her services to help Meghan, the Queen assigned an equerry, both refused by Meghan, it’s her own fault if she didn’t understand what royal life entailed, I don’t think she ever had any interest in staying or playing second fiddle to Catherine.

She said a line in the Oprah interview that I thought was very telling "it's not like you expect / see in the movies".

And yet we are told what an intelligent woman she supposedly is, a quick google on the royal website would tell her what royals do.

I think she's a planner and a hustler but she's not strategic she's incredibly impulsive - or has very very poor advisors - or potentially a combination of the two.

Strategic is being able to assess the situation and act long term to your own advantage. Meghan seems to be unable to resist reacting to everything that makes her angry or upset.

Running away to Canada, fleeing from there to LA, blurting out about her hurt feelings on the Africa tour, releasing an actual press release to rebuke the Queen about use of the word royal.

There were several points during 2020-21 when I think they could have fixed the mess and got almost what they wanted with the half in half out - not official royal tours but enough royal adjacency to improve their reputations in UK and abroad.

There was even a possibility although it would have been a tough journey to reverse the damage the Oprah interview did.

But the Netflix documentary and Spare are when it became unfixable in my opinion.

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 19:06

@wordler I am perfectly prepared to believe that both K and M role play Diana on occasion- but I'm pretty sure that most of us have a picture of ourselves wearing dark bottoms and tied or tucked white shirt with sunglasses?

wordler · 13/08/2024 19:17

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 19:06

@wordler I am perfectly prepared to believe that both K and M role play Diana on occasion- but I'm pretty sure that most of us have a picture of ourselves wearing dark bottoms and tied or tucked white shirt with sunglasses?

I've never tucked sunglasses there, I guess it may be popular with us - but I've never worn that combination and done that exact pose while on a humanitarian visit to Africa. It's very possibly a bizarre coincidence but it very much looks like Diana cosplay.

I think Kate does it a little too with outfits - wearing the red dress with white collar for Louis (second son) hospital steps.

Iwasafool · 13/08/2024 19:20

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 19:06

@wordler I am perfectly prepared to believe that both K and M role play Diana on occasion- but I'm pretty sure that most of us have a picture of ourselves wearing dark bottoms and tied or tucked white shirt with sunglasses?

Yes and whilst dressing I've never given either of them a thought. I often wear my glasses like that, does nothing for my eyesight so probably more sensible with sunglasses.

CurlewKate · 13/08/2024 19:52

@wordler I don't think that one is a bizarre coincidence at all- just women wearing perfectly usual casual clothes....

Theinflictuswithrictusgames · 13/08/2024 19:56

@wordler There is a really good Vintage Read video where she looks into the possibility that Meghan met Harry much earlier than the "official" version (which they can't seem to get straight anyway); and that she did that visit to Africa (for a pay to play charity used by actors wanting to raise their profiles) and did that pose to go up on SM, in an attempt to plant an online profile that reminded Harry of his mother. If I can find it I will link it.

Gorgonemilezola · 13/08/2024 19:56

Do people wear their sunglasses like that? I would have thought it's far more usual to wear them on your head - especially for Meghan with long hair. I don't think I've ever seen anyone irl tuck them into the top of their shirt.