Post your unpopular royal family opinions?

[DreamyPombear]

I will start
I prefer Harry to william

@Longdueachange

I also loved Meghans wedding dress/outfit. Thought it was much nicer than the safe dull dress Catherine had on. Catherine's I expect to see a version of in most wedding shops. Meghans was more unique I liked that.

(Didn't like the way either of the had their hair)

When I saw Meghan for the first time in the car enroute to the wedding I thought wisps hanging down any old way? And when she exited I thought …meh. Solid bland dress uninspired minimal makeup center parted flat hair just nothing elegant and special about her wedding look . Don't like most of her married royal looks. the white hat white coat outfit where she looks like a war time nurse is absolutely the worst. Yet I have never seen Kate in a single outfit I didn’t love. She or whoever inspires her fashions finds the color and cut to make her look fabulous again and again. Have never seen anyone able to wear the rainbow like Kate does and look good in every single color

Whoever made those children go out and look at the flowers and then walk behind their mother's coffin should have been instantly sacked. And before anyone says "but they wanted to", children often don't know what's good for them.

Does it matter which particular flavour of racism she faced?

I agree with you. It was as if their grief was paraded, it should not have happened.

I believe what Harry said in his book, and I think other members of the RF threw him under the bus with the tabloids to protect themselves from bad press.

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The RF was strong armed into performative grief by Tony Blair and a baying mob of Diana fans. The children should never have been greeting the public, taking their bloody flowers and listening to their hysteria, never mind walking behind her coffin. I wish the queen had told Blair to sod off.

@Theinflictuswithrictusgames "I wish the queen had told Blair to sod off."

She couldn't do that. The RF wouldn't have survived. The boys were collateral damage.

The coffin thing is culturally interesting to me. I'm Irish and the same age as Harry and I remember feeling desperately sorry for them, but also thinking that of course they did it.

As an adult I do think they should have been better protected but I think I still don't have the visceral reaction to it that English culture seems to.

Of course, the boys were English so it's a moot point! But interesting to me anyway.

That's very interesting to me as well, @CelesteCunningham because we do the same in my culture and children are always present at funerals, it's thought to be an important part of grieving, so I felt the same. This was in front of millions though, and must have been additionally stressful.

I think they should definitely have been at the funeral but seated beforehand, no procession, and the press told to avoid lingering shots of them.

What I found strange about the funeral was that it almost felt like she was still married to Charles - with Charles and Philip in the procession, it's not normal for your ex husband and ex FIL to be treated as key mourners

I think children should be present at funerals too. But surely people can see the difference here? Under the eyes of millions. Walking 6 feet away from the nearest remotely supportive adult. Probably having been told not to cry. Disgraceful.

Have skimmed the thread.

I agree with this. It's so easy to blame the royals for the spectacle that was Diana's funeral. The public and the press are equally to blame for what happened. The pressure on the family to publically mourn was immense and I think decisions were made in that pressure cooker that in retrospect would probably not have been made had they had time and space to consider. But they didn't have time and space and they were facing a unique situation without precedent to follow.

I think it was tricky because she had her royal status, and her position in life due her marriage and motherhood. I suppose if her sons were walking, it would be best to walk with their father and grandfather and uncle.

I think you have a point. The late Queen wanted to keep them up at Balmoral, there was huge pressure to present themselves.

Yes I think Charles and Philip were there for the boys rather than Diana. I imagine most parents in Charles' position would refuse to sit away from their children at the other parent's funeral, even if they were estranged. You'd want to be with them and it would be a very cynical person who'd refuse a bereaved child the comfort of their remaining parent.

I find people who obsess over the royals, follow them in the fawning press, buy similar clothes for their kids or camp in the streets overnight to catch a glimpse of them a bit sad and pathetic.

Prince Philip did tell Tony Blair (or his team, anyway) to fuck off.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-philip-tony-blair-alastair-campbell-princess-diana-funeral-prince-william-prince-harry-a7903186.html

To be fair, @TheCadoganArms that happens with fans of all sorts of people, celebrities and music fans. I think it's a harmless hobby, like being a follower of Taylor Swift.
I was in Windsor at the time of Harry and Meghan's wedding, and mostly people weren't too crazy, seemed just about the a nice day out, there was a great atmosphere and it was all positive and happy. They were obviously royal fans to an extent, but it was a spectacle.
I suppose if you want to go out and cheer people like Meghan and Harry you're bound to be a royalist, though.

@MrsLeonFarrell "I agree with this. It's so easy to blame the royals for the spectacle that was Diana's funeral"

It is easy. Because it was their responsibility. A completely cynical decision to appease the mob.

We walked behind our mums for about half a mile, it was really comforting and lovely. But I was 50! And nobody was howling at us - totally different

Yes, let's blame the family completely, because that way we, the public and the press, don't have to take accountability for what happened and our part in it. (This is something I agree with Harry on).

The family was in shock and in grief, real grief unlike the performative mass hysteria that gripped large sections of the public. I will always give grieving people the benefit of the doubt when they make decisions that, in retrospect, may not have been the best.

And if they didn’t appease the mob, if they didn’t give her the royal funeral, they would have been accused of thumbing their noses to the will of the people - the “people” always a minority who make a loud noise like the empty vessels they are, but who always grab the attention of the press and opportunistic politicians. They were in, as pp has said, an unprecedented situation and a no win one.

Absolutely. A cynical and disgusting decision. Because the Queen was so far removed from engaging with people she acquiesised and gave in to a baying mob. If she had put out a heartfelt statement about how traumatised the boys were and they will be fiercely protected and looked after in the best possible way at Balmoral until the funeral where the cameras will be off them and they will be allowed to grieve in peace and attend the funeral privately.

But no, for fear of the RF losing popularity, she gave in. I blame Blair the media and particularly the Queen forcing those boys out in the glare of cameras and footage being shown all over the world. Apparently Prince Philip said he'd do it if they would do it. The boys knew no better and gave in.