Post your unpopular royal family opinions?

[DreamyPombear]

I will start
I prefer Harry to william

Yes, Catherine certainly seems to inspire a particularly demented sort of envy among some women who are desperately unhappy with their own lives.

The ones who dismiss her as "boring" are the most pitiful. "Boring" perhaps because she hasn't instigated a public feud with her in-laws? Or caused an international incident by weighing into some controversial issue that she knows little about? Or perhaps because she isn't taking advantage of her profile by sitting in the front row at Milan Fashion Week, and stumbling out into the clicking paparazzi in avant-garde couture?

I have a few friends and acquaintances who have met her - all people with very interesting, dare I say - aspirational - jobs and lives and every single one of them has praised her for her kindness and intelligence. She takes an interest in other people, in the arts, in the environment. She is an incredible ambassador for the UK and as those royal popularity polls continue to demonstrate, an overwhelming majority of people in this country admire and value her.

I think Diana would have been absolutely delighted her beloved son had found a lovely young woman who made his happy. I think she would have welcomed her into the family and loved having her around. I think she would have relished being a grandmother as she loved children and would have doted on them.

Diana scored an own goal with the "three of us in the marriage" line

Camilla wasn't in love with Charles (and very much wanted to marry her first husband) and she wasn't Charles only mistress in the run up to the marriage. Charles didn't appear to have any mistresses at all in the child-producing years of the marriage, and was telling the truth when he said he only started up again after Diana's first affair began.

Camilla and Charles both had bad marriages, and that plus shared history and fondness drew them together when they each gave up on their respective spouse. And that deepened (and the relentless negativity drew then together)

And the own goal is that it was Diana's words which let it be re-written as lifelong love.

I do think that they suit very well now, and that Camilla has a positive and stabilising influence.

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if Diana had lived, Kate wouldn’t have got a look in. Diana was an aristocrat through and through and she would have had her own ideas of a suitable match for a future king.

I agree. My opinion is that Diana would have been one of the biggest adopters of "Doors to manual", "the Wisteria Sisters" etc
I also think Meghan wouldn't have got the sniff of a look in either although the struggle would have been interesting.

Plus, imo, Diana would have been extremely jealous of any DiL, especially as she aged and was no longer the young beauty of the RF. I think she'd have been the classic MN MiL from hell.

I think he's beginning to look like portraits of Henry VIII

(Born a "spare", Henry VIII is remembered for his marital life, not his diplomatic and military successes (pulled off the first Brexit) and who is lodged in the public mind as the fat, ugly, capricious and cruel man of his later years, not the dashing young hero prince of his youth)

I think Kate made a decision before her engagement to be as boring and bland and anonymous as possible and I think it was incredibly shrewd of her given she was pretty young at the time. It's been very successful - none of us know anything really of her personality and the worst she can be criticised for is the nothingness.

I don't think her job should exist and it's not a decision I'd advocate for young women, but I think in her very particular situation it was a brilliant call and shows she's very smart.

Did she love children? She was roundly criticised in the press in the summer before she died for dumping her own kids with a nanny and spending all the school holidays partying with a series of boyfriends (all the yacht photos). It’s only after she died that the media decided she was a saint.

I absolutely agree with your first paragraph LaMarschallin. Posters are definitely playing fast and loose with the definition of “unpopular opinions”

As to your point about Andrew, I also agree that he does not fit the definition of a paedophile and that throwing the term around diminishes its very real meaning. Andrew is indeed very arrogant and full of his own self importance. I have a friend who has worked in the palace who said Andrew was universally loathed (and this was before the interview) due to his rude, boorish and entitled behaviour

My friend said that Prince Philip was friendly, well liked and always spoke to them and joked about with them. That is probably an unpopular opinion

Agree with everything bar the Meghan bit - I think if Diana had lived, Harry would be a completely different person without nearly as much hurt. I think he would have married a naice English aristocrat and lived a very different life.

Did anyone see the Josh Widdicombe, fascinating ‘who do you think you are’ episode? He has a direct line from the Tudors. If Royalty is hereditary, the current one is pretty weak, short and not very direct.

I believe that Meghan has a past that she would rather leave behind and this is why she has little connection to her family. This photo was of a time when she and Doria were visiting a cousin in jail. It is also allegedly showing a young teen pregnant Meghan with her now famous post.

Goodness, her face looks completely different!

Just picking up on what another pp said yesterday (can't find the post - sorry)

I'm a mild royalist and posts critical of the RF don't bother me at all but I'm always really uncomfortable with insulting people's physical appearance. I just don't understand the mentality of saying cruel things about people being 'ugly'.

Do we have to do that? Some people are better-looking than others - who knew? Great, if you win the looks lottery, but the impression I get that some pps judge not just royals but everyone on whether they're pretty or not does give me the creeps.

Like KC, Camilla and Anne or loathe them - but do we have to say they're ugly or look like horses (seen that on this thread)? They do that on Celebitchy and it's really horrible.

It's true that the Wales kids are a lucky lot in the looks dept and at least that will protect them from the cruel jibes Charles and Ann have had to put up with all their lives about their less-than-supermodel looks.

@halloumifry Beatrice and Eugenie are undoubtedly very privileged but I actually quite like them.

They have worked - not sure if they do at the moment - they do charity work, even though they aren't "working royals" and don't have to ( in contrast to some of the allegedly "working" royals), they seem happy to assist and not precious about being excluded from "working" royal status, they handled the hat stuff with good humour.

She absolutely loved children. She was a nanny before she got married and worked in a nursery, she broke royal protocol by having the children with her instead of with nannies. It was unheard of at the time for royal mums to be seen carrying and hugging their children. She absolutely doted on her boys, they had a very close relationship.

I meant to say " famous pose" of course!

I think she loved her children in a very detached upper class way. I remember reading an account of how much she'd seen her children in the year she died and being shocked at how little it was. Charles too.

Should just say that there've been some heart-rending posts on MN over the years from people who've been called ugly all their lives. OK, they're not royals or celebrities but even so, being insulted for something you can't help or control is awful.

Leave people's looks alone unless you're saying something positive. What does it matter if Camilla or Charles don't look like George and Amal Clooney? We know the answer to that - they'd probably be cut a lot more slack if they did! It's known as 'pretty privilege'..

The way William gets flak because he dared to lose his hair! Honestly, people - what's that got to do with anything?

Agree with what you're saying @CoffeeCantata. But I also think it's fair to say that if Diana and Camilla had swapped faces, they would have both had very very different treatment in the press.

Absolutely not. She was besotted with them. I very much doubt she rarely saw her children before she died. She was always taking them places and hugging them. She was a great mum and would have been a wonderful grandmother.

Did you know her, or are you taking all this from press cuttings? We don't know these people at all. Their servants probably didn't even know them. Even Paul Burrell, no matter how much mileage he thinks he has in his Diana stories. No one knows how she would have been after the shackles of her marriage had been removed. Her children were at boarding school for a start so she would have barely seen them, then she had 50/50 custody

The thread title is 'unpopular' opinions, so why do people feel the need to police comments so much?

The RF want the media/population at large to be interested in them so given the free press in the UK that's bound to shade into unwanted attention too. Given their doubtful relevance, no wonder they're treated as a soap opera.

I don’t think she’s pregnant there but she definitely had a nose job.

I watched her marry at 19, I saw her pregnant and having her children. I saw photos of her taking her children places and carrying them and hugging them, which was unprecedented at the time. Their relationship was lovely. I saw the way she was with all children, she absolutely adored them. She came across as a very kind and loving mother. It's obvious from the way her son's talk about her, how loved she was.

It seems to be very trendy to throw mud at Diana. People should check their misogyny.

Harry looked better without a beard...