Post your unpopular royal family opinions?

[DreamyPombear]

I will start
I prefer Harry to william

... i really liked Beatrice's hat at William and Catherines wedding

😲

I'm probably not far from this.

I also think that the people who hunch sniggering over the mean-spirited royal threads, pouring more unhinged bollocks (usually about M&H) into the echo chamber are barrel-scrapingly pathetic.

And people who cite insane royal conspiracy theories as 'fact.'

Royalist or republican, I have no time whatsoever for that kind of nastiness or stupidity.

Its interesting... I was fully expecting a bloodbath around H an M but instead people are having a more of a crack at Catherine (someone even said she was aging badly). I guess the media are doing a good job at giving them good press.

My unpopular opinion is that I cannot for the life of me work out what Catherine has done to warrant so much hate.

Her worst crime seems to be that she’s considered boring.

She did a university degree and was hounded by the press when working at Jigsaw. She was still a youngster at that point - there are plenty of young women who haven’t quite found their feet at that age.

She moved into the “family business” of the Royals, and has birthed and raised three children. Multiple reports suggest her and W are hands-on parents who don’t have a huge army of staff.

Catherine was bullied into publicly talking about her health. Shes now going through treatment for cancer while trying to protect her three young children. All the money in the world can’t help when you think about your own mortality and potentially leaving your kids.

Is working for the royal family the hardest job in the world? Of course not! But Catherine seems to really care, and she’s created some thoughtful initiatives around children and parenting and has matured into the role. She’s engaging, a good sport - happy to get stuck into various sports/activities without worrying about her appearance.

Catherine has got three young kids, represents the royal family well, and has developed areas of speciality that she particularly supports. Shes never been caught being nasty and no one seems to have any inside gossip on her being anything other than ordinary and nice!

You don’t have to be a massive fan. You don’t have to think you’d be mates. But to direct hate at her because she’s got privilege and lots of money? The woman has done literally nothing wrong.

And I’m not even some mad-keen super fan of Catherine. I just think she gets a raw deal from other women for no reason at all other than “she’s boring” and “lazy” - even though she’s raising three kids and working (to some degree) and critics don’t ACTUALLY know how she spends her time. Much easier to slag another woman off though, and make assumptions. She can’t even catch a break now she’s having chemo for cancer!

It’s ridiculous.

Is she hated? That's a strong word.

This thread is trending, so it will get more than just 'royal thread' posters on it. I see quite a few comments that she's long been perceived as lazy and maybe a bit dull, but that's it. That's not 'hate.'

This thread is trending, so it will get more than just 'royal thread' posters on it. I see quite a few comments that she's long been perceived as lazy and maybe a bit dull, but that's it. That's not 'hate.'

I was wondering if it was trending because there are quite varied views in regard to the royal Family members. Much more varied than usually seen on the RF board.

I would say by some, yes. Theres real vitriol behind some comments. I don’t necessarily mean this post, but in general.

And even if some don’t “hate” her, she still receives a whole heap of criticism for more or less nothing.

There are plenty of celebrities that seem pretty dull but don’t attract the same criticism.

If she was a controversial, divisive figure I’d get it. But even on this thread she’s been singled out for criticism by multiple posters - and why??! And it’s not even an unpopular opinion because she’s frequently slated on threads.

I’ve never seen a woman get so much criticism for so little reason.

I couldn't agree more!

She has done fantastically whilst Charles & Kate are out.

William appears to get on well with her, too.

It’s not actually trending for me.

Oooh - aren't you quite the rebel 😆😆

I'm sure they will be devastated (or maybe you overestimate your importance)

We have absolutely no idea what any of them think or feel. They are ciphers we project onto.

The only benefit they offer is something for people to gossip about. A proper private life is not to be expected for people in the public eye.

This is true-someone pointed out their only real job is PR- maintaining public trust and using their influence to bring light to worthy causes.

I don't think if they all decided to call it quits the country would be worse off.

The current Jacobite king would be Franz von Bayern of the House Of Wittelsbach. His great-grandfather was the last king of Bavaria/Bayern.

that doesn’t seem any less German…

There's a kernel of truth in all Harry and Meghan say, if you look beyond the flowery, therapist language. They've been treated terribly even if they haven't helped themselves and have made some poor choices.

There did need to be a conversation about Archie's skin tone - if he'd been born with dark skin the racists would have had a field day, and they all needed to brace and plan for that. Harry has had 40 years of tittering over his parentage just because of his hair colour, can you imagine the vile things that would have been said if Archie looked more like Doria than anyone else. But this family seems universally terrible at communicating with each other.

I like William, Harry and Wallis Simpson.

Megan would trip you to win first place in the egg on a spoon race

I adored Diana but believe she was crackers

Oh one more thing

I think Sarah Ferguson was naturally more beautiful than Diana.

I think both Catherine and Meghan are lovely princesses (or was, briefly, in the latter case, not sure about the technicalities).
I think Harry and Meghan will, within the next decade, be welcomed back into the fold. The Oprah interview was no worse that what Princess Sophie said to the fake Sheik, and 20 years from now it, too, won't be remembered. Camilla was viscerally loathed by huge swathes of the public in the early 90s and at the time I assumed she'd never be able to appear at Charles' side, let alone marry him and become Queen. The Firm are very good at water under the bridge, and this too shall pass.

I think Harry and Meghan were very badly treated by both the RF and the British media.

I also think that as the risk to their lives comes from Harry’s family background (and his military service which was encouraged by the RF), I think Charles (who is literally worth billions) should be paying for their security. Not the taxpayer, though - Charles should be paying privately like he does for Andrew.

A lot of what they have done to raise money is because their security bill runs to hundreds of thousands a year. Charles should have provided them with a guaranteed income in return for an agreement not to do certain things (like the book and Netflix documentary).

I further think Charles should either have evicted them from Frogmore or let them pay for renovations - not both. Charging them on the basis they are not working Royals so they need to pay for their accommodation then throwing them out anyway just looks petty and vengeful.

If you grow up in a family which is special - even knowing who your great great great great great grandma was is special - that you are part of history and have a choice of fabulous trinkets and land and contacts: well, it would go to your head, wouldn’t it? They must see “normies” as insignificant people while also having a sense of their own mortality.

The jewels aren’t yours, you can wear them for a little while but someone else will look after them because they are important and need to be looked after for the nation and the next generations.

it’s kind of a head fuck. I can’t work out exactly how it would mess with you, but I’m glad to have come from a line of people more like Caroline Aheren’s Royle family. We can do what we want and no one cares what we had for our dinner apart from our mum.

I don't know whether this is a popular or unpopular opinion but I think this thread has become (and/or was possibly intended to be) a space for repeating unpleasant, unproven and, in some cases, absolutely batshit rumours about the RF and H&M under the excuse that "It's just my opinion".

My definitely unpopular opinion is that Andrew is not a paedophile.
He seems to be a very unpleasant and incredibly arrogant man and, imo, neither knew nor would have cared if he had known, that Virginia Giuffre was trafficked. I also doubt he knew her age (again, probably wouldn't have cared as long as she was over 16 - I know the age of consent varies in different countries but I doubt Andrew does).
That doesn't make him a paedophile and ignorant people throwing the terms "pedo", "nonce" or whatever around detracts from what an appalling offence true paedophilia is.

Becsuse she's not 'raising 3 kids and working' in any meaningful way, yet both William and Kates narrative since they married is that they are just an ordinary working couple juggling work and childcare. I think their PR does them no favours. Everyone knows they are not an ordinary working couple holed up in a 4 bedroom house yet we get fed this nonsense about William juggling the kids single handedly, Kate being unable to do more than a mornings ' work' a month because she's a mum of 3 kids etc etc etc. If they didn't persist in the irritating ' just like you' act and just either did something more effective or did more traditional Royal stuff ( shaking hands and asking inane questions) then they wouldnt need to feed as many stupid and insulting puff pieces to the press about how busy and ordinary they are . They also seem to suddenly find enthusiasm and energy to do ' work' that involves going to film premieres and sporting events.

The way that some of H&M's fans have tried to frame them as some sort of freedom fighters or royals but in a like, leftist way, is hilarious. They are not your siblings in the class struggle. 'Linked not ranked'? You can't pull that while also pulling the 'but the titles are our kids' birthright!' whinge, or insisting on using your title in every possible context and doing events and getting jobs you have no credentials for bar your rank in the royal system. It's clear Harry's only issue with ranks is that he ranked no.2 rather than no.1, and forget about the millions that came after them.

Everything Harry does to try and paint his family in an awful light just ends up making him look worse. Why didn't a man who co-founded a mental health charity get his own wife treatment for her severe mental health problems during her first pregnancy? Why is a man of nearly 40 whinging on TV that his papá cut him off financially? Why didn't he better brief his wife on the bizarre intricacies and rituals of his family and instead left her to feel like a total fish out of water with the eyes of millions on her?

I can't roll my eyes hard enough seeing Kate hailed for her eco-friendly ways when she re-wears one cream coat dress once, as opposed to one of the other 500 identikit ones she's worn the other times. You're a princess fine, wear the fancy dresses (I would), but it's not being 'thrifty' to wear clothes twice.

I do wonder how e.g. Beatrice and Eugenie get over the cognitive dissonance of having done nothing, achieved nothing other than being born into the right family, but still having jobs that let them turn up once a year and be paid £££, titles, access to everything, carriage ride for your wedding waving at the peasants, sitting in the royal box at Wimbledon. At least William and Harry actually had a chance of becoming king, and Zara did the horse stuff.

arrogant man and, imo, neither knew nor would have cared if he had known, that Virginia Giuffre was trafficked. I also doubt he knew her age (again, probably wouldn't have cared as long as she was over 16 - I know the age of consent varies in different countries but I doubt Andrew does).
I agree. From his interview it was clear that anyone there was just there to service him. I believe he just couldn't have cared less. I also believe his mother and probably most of the Royals couldn't care less either. They care that their reputation has taken a bashing, but not about Andrews sleazy behaviour.

My unpopular opinion is that if Diana had lived, Kate wouldn’t have got a look in. Diana was an aristocrat through and through and she would have had her own ideas of a suitable match for a future king. I don’t think their relationship would have progressed to marriage because she would have discouraged it early on.