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Sussex Whiplash

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ConstantGarden1 · 17/07/2024 23:14

Sometimes, all the different media outlets who purport to know the inner workings of all things Sussex can give me whiplash. One moment the Sussex duo are on the outs with everyone, hemorrhaging or devoid of influential friends, making no headway with Netflix, losing money, can’t afford their mortgage and claimed to no longer be relevant. Then Suits saw an upsurge in viewers - fantastic ratings on Netflix, the BBC buys Suits, Invictus is being promoted via Harry’s award and trips, he receives a heartfelt standing ovation, Meghan finishes filming a new Netflix series purportedly linked to a nascent commercial venture and a new podcast is set for next year.

‘Lonely’ Harry, as some will insist on writing, is also not something that rings true for me. He has too much charisma, energy, interests, causes and is a people person. I also cannot think of anyone who needs to say I am friends with x, y, and z on a regular basis for the benefit or not of strangers. We don’t know who they are friends with, really. Meanwhile, pundits continue to engage those interested in the couple with whatever they can attributing the information to some made up mysterious ‘sources’. I suspect their real friends are quietly keeping their own counsel. Especially, now they have seen the mutual pathological loathing that Harry and the tabloids have towards one another. Can’t say I blame them either.

Now there is this:

https://www.paleycenter.org/join-us/support-us/paleyhonors/

Frank A. Bennack, Jr., Chairman, Maureen J. Reidy, President & CEO

and

Tribute Chairs

Ariel Emanuel, Jon Feltheimer, Whoopi Goldberg, Taraji P. Henson, Matt Johnson, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Gayle King, Debra L. Lee, Mellody Hobson and George Lucas, Scott Mills, The Honorable Nicole Avant and Ted Sarandos, Kerry Washington, Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

Invite You to

Cocktail Reception 6:30 pm
Dinner & Program 7:30 pm

The Beverly Wilshire Hotel
9500 Wilshire Blvd. Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Cocktail Attire

Considering Whoopi G had less than favourable words for the couple I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at any meetings held. No doubt ‘netizens’ will have their microscopes to the ready to give us all their ‘insights’ regarding the events of the evening. No doubt I’ll get whiplash again when all their combined fingers hit the keyboards.

The Paley Honors Fall 2024

    Frank A. Bennack, Jr. , Chairman, Maureen J. Reidy , President & CEO   and Tribute Chairs Ariel Emanuel ,  Jon Feltheimer ,  Whoopi Goldberg ,  Taraji P. Henson ,  Matt Johnson ,  Jeffrey Katzenberg ,  Gayle King ,  Debra L....

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Nosummerontheagenda · 21/07/2024 22:33

Rhaidimiddim · 21/07/2024 21:04

While also blighting the chidrens' lives, if the titles are insisted upon.

Imagine those children announcing at school that they are a Prince and Princess. They’ll be bullied relentlessly for it and I shouldn’t think their teachers will be too impressed either.

Rhaidimiddim · 21/07/2024 22:52

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/07/2024 21:22

I don’t think William will mind a bit of hassle at all, he’s survived far worse than removing pointless titles, and, as he wants a more modern slimmed down monarchy a good place to start is to remove the two titles of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom from two American children who have barely set foot in the country and who will never serve as working royals.

Gotta say, the situation Harry has created actually invites that kind of revisionist scrutiny.
The UK really does want a person raised in America to be in the line of succession and take on Head-of-State duties they have not been raised to rise to.

InvictusForever · 22/07/2024 00:09

IsoldeWagner · 21/07/2024 19:15

I don't think Harry's unhinged. We know he has history with drinking and drugs, so he's probably very unreliable and has problems related to that, perhaps. Maybe memory?.It's more that he's just not very truthful and somewhat into self promotion and money.

Harry is far from unhinged but some of the hysterical hype on here regarding him is at times unhinged.

Morethanafeelingbutbesmart · 22/07/2024 00:24

LactoseDeservesTolerance · 21/07/2024 14:08

They’ve been real fools to attempt to tear down something they both want the benefit of enjoying. Cutting noses off to spite face, indeed. And now we have reports that they are “confused” and “ready to forgive”.

Again, factually incorrect.

ConstantGarden1 · 22/07/2024 01:09

Morethanafeelingbutbesmart · 20/07/2024 21:43

Other way round. Harry and Meghan were not treated well by the brother. We know he is a far more aggressive personality from many, many insiders. Harry confirmed it. Someone who thinks it okay to lecture Meghan whilst wagging his finger at her quite clearly does not know how to behave towards a woman who did not see herself as a ‘lesser mortal’ in his presence. Obviously, he likes telling others what to do and how to behave. How stupid is all the grovelling in that family, it’s not healthy in a modern world. The only way to modernise is to cut the whole sorry institution out like the canker it is on society. Head of State by merit and votes alone.

I like the monarchy and most of the royal family with one glaringly obvious exception. A Head of State can’t utilise all the lovely heirlooms so everything would just go on display somewhere which would be a shame. The pomp and pageantry is a way to bring the country together although it’s true the decline in popularity for the institution is ongoing. It probably won’t be around in a hundred years but William and Kate will be fine as King and Queen Consort. George, Charlotte and Louis may have far more freedoms and different lives to their parents as each generation should. I hope the children prosper and find meaningful undertakings outside of being a royal for ‘show’. I always thought that Charles made a fine heir as he really cared about the world. The Prince’s Trust has helped many youngsters, Charles’ support for environmental causes, the list is endless. I also liked the fact that his ‘spidery wrtitten letters’ were a pain in Whitehall. 😂

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LactoseDeservesTolerance · 22/07/2024 02:15

Morethanafeelingbutbesmart · 22/07/2024 00:24

Again, factually incorrect.

I am not sure how you could know that but it would be ideal if they do have a firm grasp on reality and are not truly confused about the safe distance their family is keeping.

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 05:19

@Morethanafeelingbutbesmart nobody, especially members of the RF treated Meghan as a "lesser mortal". You've jumped on that phrase created by a stupid journalist about something else entirely. If someone wagging a finger at her was the worst thing Meghan experienced, then things couldn't have been that bad. Imagine collapsing and being unable to cope because someone wagged a finger at you? Imagine trying to function in an adult world where you can't cope with any form of negativity?.
How immature, silly and petty. I'm sure everyone in Montecito shows due deference and curtseys at the right time.

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 05:23

InvictusForever · 22/07/2024 00:09

Harry is far from unhinged but some of the hysterical hype on here regarding him is at times unhinged.

You're right, I wouldn't be so offensive as to use the term "unhinged" of course. However "Global Harry" and "good King Harry" and the lavish praise heaped on a silly petulant, greedy, mendacious man is way over the top. If people admire him, I have no ideas why, that's ok, but it's excessive language of love and admiration is something else!
I would never use offensive language like "unhinged". Special Harry Fans maybe? Each to their own.

flapjackfairy · 22/07/2024 08:38

@IsoldeWagner
As someone commented up thread the blind adulation of the couple is akin to a cult !

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 08:57

Goodness me, @flapjackfairy it's extraordinary! Like when I was at school and some of the girls worshipped the Osmonds! Although at least they had some talent and worked hard.
The hero worship of Harry is inexplicable.

PrincessMee · 22/07/2024 10:23

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 05:19

@Morethanafeelingbutbesmart nobody, especially members of the RF treated Meghan as a "lesser mortal". You've jumped on that phrase created by a stupid journalist about something else entirely. If someone wagging a finger at her was the worst thing Meghan experienced, then things couldn't have been that bad. Imagine collapsing and being unable to cope because someone wagged a finger at you? Imagine trying to function in an adult world where you can't cope with any form of negativity?.
How immature, silly and petty. I'm sure everyone in Montecito shows due deference and curtseys at the right time.

She does seem to veer from extreme highs to lows doesn't she and doesn't she just love to show it off? Everyone in life has their shit to deal with and most get on with it in private. No one has a perfect life. She certainly seems to have exhibited some very odd behaviour in public and perhaps this does indeed suggest she has found her path to success a difficult one. Then again showbiz isn't showbiz without all the sob stories that are made public.

LactoseDeservesTolerance · 22/07/2024 12:43

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 05:19

@Morethanafeelingbutbesmart nobody, especially members of the RF treated Meghan as a "lesser mortal". You've jumped on that phrase created by a stupid journalist about something else entirely. If someone wagging a finger at her was the worst thing Meghan experienced, then things couldn't have been that bad. Imagine collapsing and being unable to cope because someone wagged a finger at you? Imagine trying to function in an adult world where you can't cope with any form of negativity?.
How immature, silly and petty. I'm sure everyone in Montecito shows due deference and curtseys at the right time.

Imagine trying to function in an adult world where you can't cope with any form of negativity?.

It seems like their supports suffer from the same problem when it comes to Harry and Meghan. Any criticism is receive as an extreme attack.

TheRecollectionOfTheGhostsMayVary8 · 22/07/2024 13:01

And any believed flattery and puffy nonsense will only allow them to carry on in the manner in which they are and heighten ridicule and scorn.

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 13:03

LactoseDeservesTolerance · 22/07/2024 12:43

Imagine trying to function in an adult world where you can't cope with any form of negativity?.

It seems like their supports suffer from the same problem when it comes to Harry and Meghan. Any criticism is receive as an extreme attack.

I know! Then the unpleasant remarks start! How very dare we 😆

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 13:03

TheRecollectionOfTheGhostsMayVary8 · 22/07/2024 13:01

And any believed flattery and puffy nonsense will only allow them to carry on in the manner in which they are and heighten ridicule and scorn.

It's always a mistake to believe your own publicity. They obviously do.

TheRecollectionOfTheGhostsMayVary8 · 22/07/2024 13:07

And it is a shame.

But if they are fool enough to believe …

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 13:07

TheRecollectionOfTheGhostsMayVary8 · 22/07/2024 13:07

And it is a shame.

But if they are fool enough to believe …

That's the trouble. They're vain and foolish.

MummyJ12 · 22/07/2024 13:17

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 13:03

It's always a mistake to believe your own publicity. They obviously do.

They really do! But then they’ve usually paid for the story/publicity in the first place!

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 13:35

MummyJ12 · 22/07/2024 13:17

They really do! But then they’ve usually paid for the story/publicity in the first place!

Very true.

CathyorClaire · 22/07/2024 16:40

The RF gave this man legitimacy by befriending him and so publicly spending time with him.

Worth noting that the Honours Committee had reservations about awarding Savile a knighthood as far back as 1984 thanks to controversial interviews and admissions he'd made the previous year (hiding in plain sight). He didn't get the gong until 1990. The Honours Committe were further warned directly about his activities in 1998.

It's inconceivable that their concerns around him weren't passed on to those whose job it was to protect and advise the royals.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47576543

The Charles being duped just like everyone else narrative doesn't stand up to scrutiny IMO.

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 16:46

Charles didn't make decisions about who got knighthoods, however much it suits the anti Charles narrative.
Just made up, nasty rumours to taint him.
The S fans should find something else to deflect from H&M, this one is a bit desperate.

PrincessMee · 22/07/2024 16:46

In an anonymous letter?

CathyorClaire · 22/07/2024 17:03

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 16:46

Charles didn't make decisions about who got knighthoods, however much it suits the anti Charles narrative.
Just made up, nasty rumours to taint him.
The S fans should find something else to deflect from H&M, this one is a bit desperate.

Yes I know.

The point is his advisors wouldn't have been left in the dark by the Civil servants whose job it was to approve the honours. Unlikely too that they were left unaware of the rumours known to be swirling around concerning Savile's activities yet inexplicably saw fit to keep Charles in the dark concerning said controversies.

Not a Sussex fan BTW. Not a fan of any of them. They all deserve scrutiny and the public deserves far more transparency than we get.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 22/07/2024 17:13

I’m not sure Charles had anything to do with it given he wasn’t the monarch at the time. The Queen was unlikely to have had the right to refuse to go through with a ceremony bestowing an honour deemed appropriate by the elected government. I assume any refusal on her part would have created a minor constitutional crisis. Presumably it was Margaret Thatcher, who was a great friend of Saville, who had the one and only choice in the matter.

IsoldeWagner · 22/07/2024 17:17

I agree with you about scrutiny. The whole Savile episode makes me shudder. I once worked with someone who was convicted of downloading certain images. It makes me sick to think that we chatted as friends and had coffee together. I had no idea and I berate myself for not knowing, but I genuinely didn't.
I think with Savile, Rolf Harris et al, certain people either protected or turned a blind eye. It's an absolute scandal. Savile duped Diana, and I feel vexed that she trusted him because she was vulnerable. Awful.

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