Sussex Whiplash

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Sometimes, all the different media outlets who purport to know the inner workings of all things Sussex can give me whiplash. One moment the Sussex duo are on the outs with everyone, hemorrhaging or devoid of influential friends, making no headway with Netflix, losing money, can’t afford their mortgage and claimed to no longer be relevant. Then Suits saw an upsurge in viewers - fantastic ratings on Netflix, the BBC buys Suits, Invictus is being promoted via Harry’s award and trips, he receives a heartfelt standing ovation, Meghan finishes filming a new Netflix series purportedly linked to a nascent commercial venture and a new podcast is set for next year.

‘Lonely’ Harry, as some will insist on writing, is also not something that rings true for me. He has too much charisma, energy, interests, causes and is a people person. I also cannot think of anyone who needs to say I am friends with x, y, and z on a regular basis for the benefit or not of strangers. We don’t know who they are friends with, really. Meanwhile, pundits continue to engage those interested in the couple with whatever they can attributing the information to some made up mysterious ‘sources’. I suspect their real friends are quietly keeping their own counsel. Especially, now they have seen the mutual pathological loathing that Harry and the tabloids have towards one another. Can’t say I blame them either.

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Considering Whoopi G had less than favourable words for the couple I’d like to have been a fly on the wall at any meetings held. No doubt ‘netizens’ will have their microscopes to the ready to give us all their ‘insights’ regarding the events of the evening. No doubt I’ll get whiplash again when all their combined fingers hit the keyboards.

They’ve been real fools to attempt to tear down something they both want the benefit of enjoying. Cutting noses off to spite face, indeed. And now we have reports that they are “confused” and “ready to forgive”.

They thought the RF couldn’t manage without them and would be begging for them to come back on any terms . How wrong they were.

I actually think they should keep their titles because, firstly it highlights how hypocritical they are in criticising the “toxic” institution when they don’t seem to want to remove themselves from it. They are just showing people how hollow their words are and they are making themselves look ridiculous . Secondly, removing their titles only feeds in to their perpetual victim hood narrative.

“ Hopefully the British government and Charles will have the courage to follow in the steps of the European Royals, sooner rather than later.”

I am not sure that Charles will do that . Clearly he loves his son. But I do think that William is a completely different person and Harry could be in for a shock !

😂they're so funny! "ready to forgive"!

Agree, I expect William will let Harry keep his titles but will remove the titles from the children following the Danish Queen’s lead, hopefully he will go further and change letters patent that anyone with a title has to reside and be educated in the UK. I also think only George’s children should be styled as Prince and Princess but not Charlotte and Louis and their children should have no titles the same as Peter and Zara going forward.

Completely agree with you.
I think Charles would welcome Harry back but unfortunately I don’t think that welcome would extend to Meghan.
Once William ascends, there will be no way back for either of them and I think that they may even be stripped of their Royal titles. William will do anything to protect his family and I think that he is right to want to protect them from his own brother and sister-in-law.

I agree.

He has a position in the organisation, so I think he should be doing

Is that better or worse than someone being called a coward for doing nothing other than passing on the concern (well after many other bodies had done the same)?

He appears to be utterly supine in this. Which is unfortunate, as he could have been a force for good, for transparency ad for fair and open dealing, and the ending of current injustices.

Instead it seems he would be right to be put of by entirely hypothetical criticism of jusy one of the possible courses of action that are open to someone who has chosen to accept a position within the organisation.

(I think he's expecting his current equivalent of grey suits to fix it simply because he's mentioned it, and has failed to grasp that now, as an individual, he is the one who needs to pursue that fix).

That’s right. Quite unhinged at times. 😉

I don't think Harry's unhinged. We know he has history with drinking and drugs, so he's probably very unreliable and has problems related to that, perhaps. Maybe memory?.It's more that he's just not very truthful and somewhat into self promotion and money.

Please stop the personal attacks. Unless your intent is to get the thread pulled, then continue on. 🍿🥤🫒

Oh, right. I wouldn’t describe Harry as unhinged.

I suspect you understood correctly the first time

No - it's a very cruel term. As much as I think Harry has many unpleasant behavioural and personal characteristics, I certainly wouldn't apply that awful term to him. Or anyone else, really.

That's just another inconsistency.

If they were concerned about the DC's "birthright" titles, then from birth they would have been Lord Archie (or the Earl of Dumbarton) and Lady Lili Mountbatten-Winsdor.

I remember Omid Scobie announcing this when Archie was born - that the Sussexes wanted no titles for their children.

Disagree that Charles would 'welcome' Harry back. I think he's done with him, at the very least as a member of the RF. I think he would support him in e.g. a nasty divorce, but with dustance. Look at how he's treated him on his (Harry's) last two trips over.

Quite. They wanted Prince and Princess. Otherwise, what was the faux “the
children won’t get security without titles” nonsense all about 🤷‍♀️

I doubt it would be worth the hassle - lilibet can't pass on any title, and Archie won't pass on HRH. He could pass on the dukedom, but by then it will a fairly remote connection, like the Duke of Fife.

What utter nonsense that was, as well they knew. More lying.

While also blighting the chidrens' lives, if the titles are insisted upon.

I don’t think William will mind a bit of hassle at all, he’s survived far worse than removing pointless titles, and, as he wants a more modern slimmed down monarchy a good place to start is to remove the two titles of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom from two American children who have barely set foot in the country and who will never serve as working royals.

I think William might have to revisit the current LPs, so that Charlotte's (putative) future DC get titles that are not outranked by those of Louis (further down the succession). I suspect that those already born will keep the versions they were entitled to at birth, but there will be changes going forward. With either all DGC of a monarch being entitled to HRH (whether in male or female line) but a caveat that these are used only if they become working royals; or that only those in the direct line get them (so George, Charlotte and Louis get them as DC of direct heir, but only George passes it on, as he's the next heir in the direct line).

Needs to be done before any of that generation couple up, so none of them can take it personally (though as Harry took LPs affecting only the direct line and that were issued back in 2011 as some sort of personal affront as his DC weren't covered by them, then who knows who might get ruffled!)

And those changes

Not to mention not knowing any of the RF themselves.