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Mother of Pat Tillman has criticised the decision to give Prince Harry the memorial award at ESPY

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PrincessMee · 30/06/2024 08:58

Mary Tillman says " There are recipients far more fitting. He publicly disrespected his family , ran away from service to his country. He is unworthy of this award"

She feels there are recipients far more fitting.

I think she speaks for many.

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Uricon2 · 12/07/2024 20:29

Venus Williams face is a picture.

It's not the bloody Oscars Harry, you are not being given the award because you are a truly spectacular human being who has achieved from scratch on the basis of your own hard work, please wake up and realise that, for your own sake.

Fish out of water and it's sad.

CathyorClaire · 12/07/2024 20:57

PrincessMee · 12/07/2024 19:37

Venus

with seal

CathyorClaire · 12/07/2024 21:00

PrincessMee · 12/07/2024 19:30

Omg Harry and Meghan left the awards after he received his??? What on earth would prompt this?

I think he left for his bunker to dodge public approbrium.

Uricon2 · 12/07/2024 21:42

Musing on Diana a bit tonight after the speech. She had a LOT of issues, we know that, but by the end of her life I think she was working positively towards finding her niche on an international stage and she did it without a campaign against the entire RF, although I'm sure she would have had many axes to grind into perpetuity had she chosen to do so, rather sharper than Harrys. I've said before that I truly believe she would have been horrified by the rift between her sons and additionally by the attempt to undermine the one who is going to be King.

Harry would better off focusing on Diana the strong woman who made (lots of) mistakes but found a way of getting on with things, rather than Diana the Eternal Sainted Victim, because she wasn't, she was bigger than that.

ETA so many edits, rubbish typing

CremeFresh · 12/07/2024 21:49

I can't decide if Harry was filled with passion during his speech or anger.

AliceOlive · 12/07/2024 21:58

AliceOlive · 12/07/2024 14:45

Sounds like he was trying to create false intimacy and understanding with a massive audience watching on in order to make himself look empathetic. You don’t tell a mother who lost her child that you know what it feels like.

I have to take this back now. I watched his speech and think he addressed Pat’s mother in the best way possible, given her criticism. He didn’t make it about himself at all. Just acknowledged her respectfully.

I think he looked unusually stressed walking up to the stage. It’s worrisome if he left right after he spoke. Is that true?

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:06

CremeFresh · 12/07/2024 21:49

I can't decide if Harry was filled with passion during his speech or anger.

Or fighting off panic.

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:10

Here is the package ESPN put out today about Invictus.

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1811570207199990111

x.com

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1811570207199990111

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:20

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:10

Here is the package ESPN put out today about Invictus.

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1811570207199990111

The thread includes the following - thanks for the reminder:

Mother of Pat Tillman has criticised the decision to give Prince Harry the memorial award at ESPY
IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:21

PrincessMee · 12/07/2024 20:05

To me he looked very emotional. It is obvious that he feels strongly about Invictus but I am wondering if all the furore has got to him. He obviously realised that he had to keep the vets on the stage and to make it clear in his speech. I'm wondering if he now is beginning to realise that all the dramas they have created have indeed affected his role in Invictus in a negative way . Meghan was her usual oblivious self apart from her face showing one of those weird expressions when he jumped up to collect the award trying to drag himself away from her . She had to recollect herself but again for that split second the mask slipped.

"I can't get over the fact that Wills always got the extra sausage" 😞

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:23

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:20

The thread includes the following - thanks for the reminder:

Edited

Indeed. It would be nice if Harry would acknowledge that Invictus was given to him..

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:25

Good points about Diana, @Uricon2 and it would be much healthier if Harry found a way to accept that, and understood things a bit better.

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:28

Robert Griffin 111 apparrently a superstar ex NFL player and now sports commentator with 2.2 million followers on Twitter gives a shout out to Harry's speech which has now has 3.4 million views - looks like Invictus is a big winner from this as well it should be.

twitter.com/RGIII/status/1811577811645399125

Mother of Pat Tillman has criticised the decision to give Prince Harry the memorial award at ESPY
IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:32

That's just one person's opinion. Didn't about 75k people sign a petition against him being given it?
Is a football player's opinion worth more than Pat Tillman's mother?
I think not.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:34

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:28

Robert Griffin 111 apparrently a superstar ex NFL player and now sports commentator with 2.2 million followers on Twitter gives a shout out to Harry's speech which has now has 3.4 million views - looks like Invictus is a big winner from this as well it should be.

twitter.com/RGIII/status/1811577811645399125

The comments on his post make for really entertaining reading, if anyone is killing time before bed. He's got an intelligent bunch of followers.

My fabe so far:

" robbing his own charity to buy an award".

Edited to add the last two paras.

GOTBrienne · 12/07/2024 22:35

I wish he had attended with an Invictus athlete on his arm, it would have looked so much better.
Except the whole point was for the Netflix documentary and Meghan getting her photo taken though.

I read on Twitter they travelled separately.

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:38

I can't see them, @Rhaidimiddim - can you give an example?

AliceOlive · 12/07/2024 22:39

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:28

Robert Griffin 111 apparrently a superstar ex NFL player and now sports commentator with 2.2 million followers on Twitter gives a shout out to Harry's speech which has now has 3.4 million views - looks like Invictus is a big winner from this as well it should be.

twitter.com/RGIII/status/1811577811645399125

That’s a terrible photo with his tongue sticking out.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:39

GOTBrienne · 12/07/2024 22:35

I wish he had attended with an Invictus athlete on his arm, it would have looked so much better.
Except the whole point was for the Netflix documentary and Meghan getting her photo taken though.

I read on Twitter they travelled separately.

He turns 40 in Sept and gets the last tranche of his inheritance from Diana.

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:41

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:34

The comments on his post make for really entertaining reading, if anyone is killing time before bed. He's got an intelligent bunch of followers.

My fabe so far:

" robbing his own charity to buy an award".

Edited to add the last two paras.

Edited

Btw the way comments on 'X' are fed to you based on your interests and follows which the algo calculates so if you are pro-Harry then you are likely to see leading pro-Harry qoutes at the top of your feed and vice-versa.

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:43

AliceOlive · 12/07/2024 22:39

That’s a terrible photo with his tongue sticking out.

That's down to me a did a screen grab with the video playing and it froze that moment.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:47

"Harry's word salad isn't worth anyone's time"

" He bought the award"

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:48

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2024 22:47

"Harry's word salad isn't worth anyone's time"

" He bought the award"

Oh dear.

Makemydaypunk · 12/07/2024 22:50

“robbing his own charity to buy an award".

That comment sums it up in a nutshell.

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/07/2024 22:52

IsoldeWagner · 12/07/2024 22:32

That's just one person's opinion. Didn't about 75k people sign a petition against him being given it?
Is a football player's opinion worth more than Pat Tillman's mother?
I think not.

Aren't they now a dodgy foundation that trousers most of the donations as some seem to suggest and an online 'anyone can sign' petition of 75k is a gnat's bite in internet terms.

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