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AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 11:13

ThereAreNoSloesOnThere · 13/06/2024 11:04

Ive just gone again onto the insta and website of ARO. Still nothing at all is there other than the title. But I found this fairly recent article. From what I can see (and I am not processing things well as I am ill) someone has ripped the brand off and selling stuff on shopify. And trademarked it!

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/news/meghan-markle-american-riviera-orchard-colouring-book-b2561746.html

It says they are sold out but I think that site was downloadable ones!! Print your own coloring book. What next?

sweetnessandlighter · 13/06/2024 11:24

I'm really surprised how few followers the ARO page on instagram has - around 600k I think? I know they haven't published anything yet but I'd have expected several million.

sweetnessandlighter · 13/06/2024 11:26

The Prince and Princess of Wales' official page has 16 million followers, by contrast

MrsFinkelstein · 13/06/2024 11:26

sweetnessandlighter · 13/06/2024 11:24

I'm really surprised how few followers the ARO page on instagram has - around 600k I think? I know they haven't published anything yet but I'd have expected several million.

ARO expected the same.

All a bit of a damp squib really.
Such a wasted opportunity, if they'd marketed and promoted this even just a bit better then they would have millions.

Vignetta · 13/06/2024 11:47

It's a wasted opportunity in one way but in another way I have no interest in buying jam crafted by Meghan Markle. It has felt from the start like a weird grab for income (and I know Charles always had his line of Duchy stuff, plus there are loads of US examples like Paul Newman) like someone reselling tat on Amazon for a mark-up. Also selling things can make you a lot of money but it's a bit tacky unless it's for a good cause. I think they don't know what to do or where to position themselves. Is Meghan an actress/producer? A Royal? A savvy businesswoman? A leader of thought? A children's author? She hasn't picked a lane - they seem to chase after other people's successes without much thought about what they actually have to offer. And they were given a lot of opportunities - they jumped to the head of all the queues in TV and publishing and podcasting - but that just gave them a higher profile for their failures, even if they've learned from them.

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 11:50

So far I think summer of PR is a bust, and they should go back to the drawing board. The quality of content on SM is declining, suspect they are running out of $.

BemusedAmerican · 13/06/2024 11:55

@@AliceOlive I would be very careful with any downloads from an ARO wannabe site. Not worth the risk.

Blackcats7 · 13/06/2024 12:24

CremeFresh · 07/06/2024 06:18

I love Greg Davies and this was very funny

Thank you for this. I laughed out loud at the foot man bit!

MummyJ12 · 13/06/2024 12:27

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 11:50

So far I think summer of PR is a bust, and they should go back to the drawing board. The quality of content on SM is declining, suspect they are running out of $.

All of the leaky PR is looking desperate and hypocritical too.
I think WME are getting weary and they’re not even half way through the contract yet.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/06/2024 12:29

sweetnessandlighter · 13/06/2024 11:24

I'm really surprised how few followers the ARO page on instagram has - around 600k I think? I know they haven't published anything yet but I'd have expected several million.

I think it peaking around 617k . Today it’s down to 614 k .
I thought she was going to make squillions in the first 6 months ??
It must have been disappointing that so few “ celebrities “ posted their baskets of lemons with a jar of jam .

Thedom · 13/06/2024 12:41

their PR announced to People magazine , they would be launching towards late spring, if it didn’t launch then wonder if they have a new launch date.

Vespanest · 13/06/2024 12:57

I don’t normally have much sympathy but no matter what they do it seems to clash with other stuff. They are going to be livid if summer of love coincides with Catherine’s return. Worse Catherine and Meghan will then both be horrendously mocked on twitter.

ThereAreNoSloesOnThere · 13/06/2024 12:59

I agree with a PP that they jump around from idea to idea and never settle or put the hard work in. It's erratic and incoherent and baffling.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/06/2024 12:59

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 11:13

It says they are sold out but I think that site was downloadable ones!! Print your own coloring book. What next?

Does it come with user instructions for the squaddies about colouring inside the lines?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/06/2024 13:03

Thedom · 13/06/2024 12:41

their PR announced to People magazine , they would be launching towards late spring, if it didn’t launch then wonder if they have a new launch date.

Like the Lemonada podcasts, which have reportedly now been delayed until "at least 2025"?

It's said that Lemonada didn't want their launch to clash with that of ARO - which seems a bit ironic now - and also not with the Netflix cooking show, which might or might not end up being broadcast

Hard not to wonder if this is just another thing that'll fizzle out after being "launched" in a blaze of mediocrity and word salad

MummyJ12 · 13/06/2024 13:06

I’ve read (complete gossip and rumour) that Meghan hasn’t even been turning up for filming.
She is only used to putting in a one hour week though for Archewell so she is probably just exhausted.

JSMill · 13/06/2024 13:54

@Vignetta interesting that you bring up Paul Newman. Didn't he start selling his salad dressing to raise money for children's summer camps? He's a proper philanthropist not a grifter pretending to be a humanitarian. Plus his product was actually good.

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 14:44

JSMill · 13/06/2024 13:54

@Vignetta interesting that you bring up Paul Newman. Didn't he start selling his salad dressing to raise money for children's summer camps? He's a proper philanthropist not a grifter pretending to be a humanitarian. Plus his product was actually good.

Huge product line still exists today.

Vignetta · 13/06/2024 15:38

Yes, Paul Newman started with a philanthropic cause and that combined with his celebrity and a genuinely good line of products made it a hit. Someone like Gwyneth Paltrow used her celebrity to draw readers to her newsletter, created a community and then sold them products in line with the values of that community - not for charity, but all in line with her beliefs and the way of life she was demonstrating, and none of that clashed with who she is or what she stands for. Prince Charles (as he was then) was promoting organic food, which again was completely in line with his stated interests and values. Duchy Originals was set up to share goods made from produce grown on his land and developed into a range of British luxury food items - but slowly. So in all of those cases there was always an ethos, a cultivated audience, a clear aim and a slow building of brand loyalty over time. ARO has none of that. There's no hinterland of values and community apart from people who like Meghan, which is a shifting and very varied group that's geographically scattered. Meghan and Harry talk a lot about vague concepts like service and empowerment and battling unfairness but there isn't any core proposal in what they say - there's nothing to stand behind. And it fundamentally doesn't go with jam! I think their two problems are that they are in too much of a hurry to throw themselves into new projects, and with ARO they've started at the wrong end where they've behaved as if it's already a billion-dollar merchandising business and are working back from that idea to find a market for it. I feel as if more time and thought went into designing the logo than defining what the business actually is.

JamieFraserSporran · 13/06/2024 15:39

JSMill · 13/06/2024 13:54

@Vignetta interesting that you bring up Paul Newman. Didn't he start selling his salad dressing to raise money for children's summer camps? He's a proper philanthropist not a grifter pretending to be a humanitarian. Plus his product was actually good.

His chipotle ranch is one of my favorite dressings!

JamieFraserSporran · 13/06/2024 15:43

@AliceOlive I had to Google an adult colouring book and got this!

Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2
CoffeeCantata · 13/06/2024 15:49

ThereAreNoSloesOnThere · Today 11:04
Ive just gone again onto the insta and website of ARO. Still nothing at all is there other than the title.

Reminds me of what V. Woolf said about E M Forster's books: he warms the pot very nicely, but there isn't going to be any tea.

CoffeeCantata · 13/06/2024 15:50

JSMill · Today 13:54

And it was actually HIS recipe for salad dressing.

MrsFinkelstein · 13/06/2024 15:58

Thedom · 13/06/2024 12:41

their PR announced to People magazine , they would be launching towards late spring, if it didn’t launch then wonder if they have a new launch date.

Interestingly (or not, depending on your POV), People changed their May 27 cover. From an H&M exclusive, to Kate Hudson (and its the KH cover that's being used to promote the magazine). I don't know if that's a common thing or not?

And William was on the cover the week before.

Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2
Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2
Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2
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