Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

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First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

Yes, there’s a very face saving article in the DM from the Sussex camp about why Harry couldn’t attend the Westminster wedding. Among the excuses given, he could potentially have been shown to his seat by William who is an usher.

Edited to add, could well be the usual DM spin on this.

Why are they making a statement to People about the invite, or lack of, to the society wedding of the year!

interesting how they need to spin things, no matter how irrelevant it is, if it appears they are slighted in any way.

After looking at the extensive D Day coverage it reinforced how awful Meghan would have been at an event like this. I shudder to think.,

Seemingly many former friends who will be at the wedding no longer speak to Harry as well.

I wonder what inappropriate outfit she would have worn ?
Harry might do his own commemoration- complete with camera crew !

All those cameras and all that attention and not on her! she'd have had to be scraped off whatever floor she was lying on and sobbing.

Interesting how they have their PR release the sympathetic pieces/articles in the press when they haven’t been included in Royal Calendar events, (the entitlement is off the scale IMO that they would even anticipate an invite to anything Royal).
“Meghan and Harry not invited to Trooping the Colour” for example.
Then, they plant stories such as Lillibet’s 3rd Birthday party, and leak through sources that they didn’t invite any of the Royal Family to “avoid drama”. Are they trying to detract here?
(Errr, who would they invite anyway?!)
The hypocrisy of them and their PR planting and leaking stories and the constant need for attention and sympathy is unrelenting.

It's all a bit 'well I'm not invited but even if I was I wouldn't go so there!'

I’m waiting for the next attention seeking headline to interrupt the D Day commemoration or the Trooping of the Colour or whatever. It’s almost boringly predictable isn’t it?

I think if Harry could stop releasing a statement or commenting through a source every single time he doesn't attend something, he would be a lot happier and the press attention would die down a bit.

Yes she wouldn’t make liked having to schmooze with old people instead of Cali millionaires.

I totally agree with this - I think she thought it would be like a Hollywood red carpet whereby the most glamorous and interesting gets the most attention and praise. Whereas the RF as so different, there’s a literal hierarchy and it’s based on date of birth rather than glamour

I thought this as well - I don't rate levin as a good source of information and thought idea was Netflix show to launch the shop. Clarkson's Diddly Squat Farm shop benefits massively from amazon TV show and was even set up in series 1 - so it is a strategy that's worked for others.

I wonder if the launch show been cancelled or not picked up - though I've read marketing expert opine with right products it could work - but launching with nothing to buy is just odd.

It does now look like it was to distract from William speech even late on-line Harry's bit which as PP say is becoming a habit - Royals do something and bam new news headline form Sussex's about nothing much really.

No particular opinion on Levin, but it’s hard to believe all Royal commentators for 2 main reasons:

Firstly, they want to portray themselves as experts so it’s never clear whether they are presenting their opinion or fact. It is therefore easy to dismiss what they have said when it doesn’t transpire, but actually were they sharing their opinion or guesswork dressed up as a fact?

Secondly, I do believe that the Sussex side put out stories to see what the public response is, which is why so many conflicting stories. Sussexes have plausible deniability, they can always say “we didn’t say that!” but their role in putting the story out there eg via a Royal “expert” is a bit murky. So is the commentator sharing their opinion, facts or divulging stories that the Sussexes wanted to release?

Critical thinking is underrated- question if the source is credible and whether there is a hidden agenda at play.

Angela Levin is an odd woman but she has a lot of well placed sources. She’s on Sky as Murdoch probably loves her.
As with all of these rumours. It’s important to remember that they’re rumours, gossip and hear say. It’s all “apparently” so not worth wasting taking up posting time critiquing these “experts”. They’re all as bad as each other.
I was the one who said about the rumour of ARO not moving forward. It was a Sky interview with Levin. Something like this, makes for a good distraction when the mean girls come on here 😉 it was a purposeful post, you gotta read between the lines people…..

I always wondered how Nicholas Witchell - a war correspondent and 6 O'clock news reader ended up being BBC royal correspondent even more so when then Prince Charles was heard to be so rude about him - but I read some of his retirement interviews the BBC didn't give him a choice it was that or no job.

It's even less clear with Levin and Lady C and their ilk if they actually have sources - or are passing on general gossip or making stuff up or guessing or are repeating PR verbatim or are the sounding board vehicle or very likely a mix of all that so they have something to say.

ItsNotAShopItsAStore · Today 12:50
AnnieSF · Today 10:21

After looking at the extensive D Day coverage it reinforced how awful Meghan would have been at an event like this. I shudder to think.,
Yes she wouldn’t make liked having to schmooze with old people instead of Cali millionaires.

I get that impression too. I don't really buy that Meghan is interested in or cares for 'ordinary folk'. They just don't offer the opportunities for glamour and glory that she craves, and also they're awfully boring, darling. I'm thinking of the notorious garden party where she pestered Harry to leave after about 15 minutes because it was 'boring' and they'd shown their faces, so why couldn't they go now? I'm sure that's what Hollywood A-listers are used to doing - pose on the red carpet and then go home.

But royal garden parties are intended as a chance for 'ordinary people' to mingle with the royals and enjoy the informal atmosphere. The presence of the RF and a chance to speak to them is the whole point. I'm sure the other royals find it dull too, but as Queen Mary famously said, "We are the royal family and we don't get bored". If you watch the video of this incident it's clear Meghan jut didn't get it - Charles and Camilla try to persuade her to stay, and Harry is clearly conscious of his duty (having been brought up to it) but M is having none of it, and off they go.

Sagharbor · 04/06/2024 22:21

"Sussex Squad...a stain"

What would you call the many anti-Meghan and Harry posters here that are constantly posting hateful stuff about anything that Meghan and Harry are perceived to have done/not done/ intend to do etc?

Its a circus on here. So many angry people!

I guess its only "safer" than twitter because its what, mumsnet?

If you are seriously and sincerely concerned about online bullying campaigns, could I make a suggestion?

Could you please lobby Harry and Meghan about their supporters' vile threats and slanderous campaigns against Catherine and William, and the recent attacks on Sean Lennon, and previously on the jam company, the First Lady of Nigeria and her daughter...in fact, anyone who dares to mildly criticise the diety that is Meghan Markle or her husband.

The sick behaviour of the SS is where your concern should be focussed. I've seen their illiterate utterances, and how any of them can sleep at night after the things they've said about a cancer suffering mother of three, and her husband who has a father and a wife with cancer and three small children to support through it is absolutely beyond belief. Now, another poster has accused the jolly, well-adjusted, sparky and intelligent MNers here of being socially isolated. I wonder what kind of social interactions the SS have in the real world? Wide circle of friends with a healthy, well-informed range of views? I don't think so.

I'd be very interested to hear your opinion on these people.

Now, another poster has accused the jolly, well-adjusted, sparky and intelligent MNers here of being socially isolated

Sticks and stones, in my case. I'm not going to lose sleep over what people as vile as that call me or whatever slurs they want to throw in my direction. I have no doubt a lot of it is projection, anyway. They and their reps on here give every sign of not being at all mature or all that bright (see, works both ways, Sussex fans!). Their behaviour is the sort of thing I'd expect from very unhappy adolescents, but it appears some of them are grownups - chronologically, anyway. That is worrying.

Still, I don't have to live with them, work with them, go to school or college with them and in most cases I can chose to scroll past their comments. As DGM would say, san fairy ann.

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I wonder what kind of social interactions the SS have in the real world?

Oh, I don’t know.
I expect a few share the same programmer.
Almost like being siblings.

They probably have in common that they're sitting in their basements tapping away at the same time. That's social interaction, right?

I was watching as Rishi Sunak and his wife arrived. Beautifully dressed, she waited patiently behind him as he shook hands with people and had a quick chat. She would then shake hands and smile. She was the perfect supportive spouse. She knows it's not about her. What a contrast to M pushing in front of H or interrupting if she thought he was taking too long in a conversation that didn't involve her.

This just sounds like misogyny, I'm sorry. Women should be seen and not heard.

This just sounds like misogyny, I'm sorry. Women should be seen and not heard

No-one's saying anything of the sort. Ms Sunak's role last night was to support her husband as PM. She wasn't being silenced, because she didn't have any role last night where she would speak. Any more than Timothy Lawrence did last night at Bayeux, like Prince Philip did for the late queen. Is that misandry?

Yes I’ve noticed how Meghan always puts her hands on his back and in some instances actually moves him out the way to get to whoever they’re meeting first.

She did this when she was a working member of the RF and I reckon this is part of her feminist shake up of the stuffy institution. However I wonder if she realises that it’s nothing to do with being a woman because Prince Philip dutifully spent 70 years staying 3 steps behind his wife. That’s the deal