Porkies, Perfidies & Pomposity - Harry and Meghan thread 2

[YaMuvva]

I do not take credit for the title

First thread here

Shall we continue the discussion? I will not be engaging with the posters spouting damaging and unfounded gossip

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5084429-why-do-harry-and-meghan-tell-porkies-that-are-so-easy-to-prove-wrong?page=1

She used one of the pans from her cookware range, she was in turn promoting her own wares - which is why there’s so many clips of the pan up lose being easily wiped clean etc

With PH's self proclaimed recreational history perhaps they should try selling something more leafy for enhancing tobacco 😵‍💫

Oh! I had no idea

This game me rage! Disgusting behaviour from him

Beautiful 🤣

I have noticed that they never, ever, refer to a member of the Royal family by their title. It's usually my mother, or my grandma, or my father, or Kate. I can't decide whether it's to emphasise their closeness, in terms of heritage not actual relationship, or to diminish the importance of the royals.

Either way it is a weird choice coming from people who can't release anything without their full title.

I've wondered the same, I suspect is a combination of trying to emphasise closeness - they've always been weird about names, making a big thing of the nicknames they have for each other and of course coopting Lilibet- but also in some contexts, like Harry referring to William as 'Willy' throughout Spare, it feels designed to diminish or embarrass. Very petty and childish, either way.

It's just indicative of their arrogant behaviour. They love titles. They relish their own and those of their children. They're making a point about their own royal status whilst trying to diminish the status of others.

According to Wikipedia:

Titles, styles and arms
Meghan became a princess of the United Kingdom upon her marriage to Prince Harry, entitled to the style of Royal Highness.[350] After her marriage, she was styled "Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Sussex".

Therefore she is:

Her royal highness the duchess of Sussex princess Meghan 👸😀

No. She is HRH the Duchess of Sussex. (HRH by agreement not used as she is not official royalty).
She is not now, nor has she ever been "Princess Meghan".
This is because she is a princess by marriage, so is Princess Henry of Sussex. Or Princess Harry.

No, if she uses a Princess title it would be Princess Henry of Sussex.

She's not a Princess in her own name.

Edit spelling

Also according to Wikipedia prince Harry and princess Meghans children are

Princess Lilibet of Sussex

Prince Archie of Sussex

I've just checked, @Ellaelle - even Wikipedia doesn't claim that she's "Princess Meghan".

Yes, those children's titles are correct. Their parents' choice to have them styled thus.
What's your point?

Wikipedia said she is a princess of the United Kingdom!!!!

She is!
She's a princess by marriage. Princess Henry/Harry. (qv)

Oh it's just everyone says she's not a princess so thank you for confirming she is indeed a princess if even by marriage 😃

Everyone? Who?
If they say that, then they're wrong.
She is just not "Princess Meghan".

As soon as someone uses Wikipedia as a source I feel like any scrap of leftover dignity just evaporate. Not that there was much left to evaporate here!

Especially when you can use a verified source like the RF website Which has a special page about H&M, and in it is a section about their titles.

@DelectableMe is spot on. She is not Princess Meghan.

And the title thing, and why the Sussex children are title Prince/Princess and Meghan isn’t, is REALLY not hard to understand

That's why they get given royal Dukedoms otherwise Sophie would have been Princess Edward and Catherine originally Princess William.
Note Princess Michael of Kent is not Princess Marie Christine.

Sophie and Edward's children are rightfully Prince and Princess.
However, they are lower down in the line of succession and Sophie and Edward understood the importance of having a more private life, so those titles have never been used.

Exactly, it doesn’t make them a Princess, it’s just a title.

Meghan is a Duchess and in Scotland she’s a Countess. She is not a Princess, neither was Catherine until the Queen died.

I find it highly amusing how much this upsets people

Both Meghan and Catherine became princesses of the UK on their marriages.
It's just that the Duchess title is better than the married princess title.

I admire your commitment to knowing every single detail I just utilise Google and wiki and gossip lol.

Perhaps I should go into the trending thread about the ducks.

No ducks given re titles and calling Meghan princess Meghan due to the fact that she IS a princess of the UK (according to Wikipedia)

I also say princess Kate and everyone finds a problem with that too!