Harry’s litigation

[smilesy]

Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

@IcedPurple If Harry's case is not upheld - is he not liable for the costs ?

He wanted to leave and not be a working member of the RF - surely he knew this . I wonder what Aunty Anne thinks 😊

Yes, he would be liable for the costs.

But even so, the Home Office, in other words the taxpayer, will end up paying some of it. It's also a waste of scare public resources. The legal system doesn't exist to cater to the bruised ego of a CHIMPO in California.

Yes, it means he’s not entirely convinced the appeal has merit but will allow it nonetheless.

Harry's ultimate aim is to cost the British taxpayer more money here. He wants us to pay for his security. This is litigation isn't going to give him that; I'm not sure he understands that. Is this a PR exercise?

I think Harry is floundering tbh. He didn’t understand his role as the spare and married someone who didn’t get it either. No reason why she should tbh as Meghan isn’t British. But she’s not supporting him adequately in coming to terms with his changed role. And for that she’s failed him massively.

Even if Harry turns this round and then RAVEC changes their stance that the 5-7 in the line of succession, need full time police armed protection even as non working royals in the UK. Then the dreaded 8 could argue the same and with precedent of Harry’s ruling then there 9 to 13. Not sure those cheering if Harry is successful will have the same for Andrew.

That’s a good point - in time the taxpayer could be funding full-time security for hundreds of royals and their families

Even if they do get to reconsider, all Ravec has to say is OK we have reconsidered. Oops, nope, same decision, sorry. At which point further appeals will be refused.

Would further appeals then be refused though?
I'm no legal expert so couldn't say, but wouldn't that open up a route to a whole new set of appeals on the basis of it being a "new" decision?

Harry's ultimate aim is to cost the British taxpayer more money here. He wants us to pay for his security

I agree about him wanting us to foot the security bill, @JADS , but to me at least it looks more like spite - as in you didn't give me what I want so I'm going to make you pay

Harry's ultimate aim is to cost the British taxpayer more money here. He wants us to pay for his security

I don't think costing the taxpayer the aim (although it's the result). What he wants is to be royal (paid for security in the UK as if he's still living here) and yet not royal (doing his own thing). And I think Ravec will still say no. They have finite resources and bluntly, more important people to worry about than Prine Petulant.

No idea about how many times he can appeal before the judiciary process calls a halt.

to me at least it looks more like spite - as in you didn't give me what I want so I'm going to make you pay

I agree. He must be aware he's a figure of fun and his popularity's dropped like a stone. It's a means of lashing out at the UK public.

This is about that Visa case in the US. There's a suggestion in that case that Harry has been investigated for crimes in the UK which should have been disclosed on the Visa application - serious stuff. If he gets his IPP status back via the UK courts, the US Visa case goes away.

i read elsewhere that the new claim includes fear of threats from Al Quiada and also that he plans to undertake more foreign tours.

i read elsewhere that the new claim includes fear of threats from Al Quiada and also that he plans to undertake more foreign tours.

If he/they were to get official protection, they would have to do as they were told, wouldn't they? Which would include proper planning and risk assessments for overseas jaunts, and following FCO advice.

His "foreign tours" are private holidays or private business jaunts or private charity work (if that's what his Invictus activities can be described as). He is not representing the Crown/Head of State/UK government.

If H & M want to work with children suffering from trauma, they can move to NYC ( a city in Harry's new country)
and work with the thousands of children of asylum seekers. He doesn't have to fly to dangerous countries.

@BlueParrotRedParrot what is the visa case in the USA? I don’t think it’s been reported here?

I wonder if the Al-quaeda threats are anything to do with certain claims about kill counts in “Spare” 🤔

@smilesy there is nothing about ‘kill counts’ in Spare.

I am not a Harry fan at all, but I read the whole book and am constantly surprised at what people claim was in it.

@JawJaw It has had some coverage over here. In a nutshell: The Heritage Foundation have issued Freedom of Information requests to the US State Department to find out how Harry has a visa to remain in the US when he is a confessed drug user. Harry is not directly involved in the case. Harry's visa status is unclear - whether he is on some sort of enhanced diplomatic/head of state visa - which he will have violated by working and earning money, no to mention getting involved in US political matters; or a more ordinary citizen visa, in which case ordinary people with a history of drug use don't usually get one, and then there's green card issues with him working.

The US's defense to the FOI request was initially that Spare was an unreliable/exaggerated account and therefore was not proof that Harry is a drug taker. This didn't wash with the judge who demanded that the paperwork be released to him. Then the US said they couldn't find the paperwork. Now they are saying there are potentially "stigmatising" information about criminal activity in the documents. This case goes away if Harry gets IPP status. Someone let slip on, I think, GB News yesterday, that Harry has a Head of State visa.

“I could always say precisely how many enemy combatants I’d killed. And I felt it vital never to shy away from that number…
So, my number. Twenty-five. It wasn’t a number that gave me any satisfaction. But neither was it a number that made me feel ashamed”.

Prince Harry, in Spare.

Thanks @Serenster. That’s what I was talking about

This article is worth reading for both the nuanced response of the Taliban and the comments of the British officers. It also quotes Harry talking about the truthfullness of Spare.

https://abcnews.go.com/news/story/taliban-leaders-respond-prince-harrys-reported-claim-spare/?id=96260668

There are plenty in California too

He could buy a nice brownstone cheaper than in Cali ($5 million or so) and use mass transit. No one would recognize him. Shorter commute.